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I'm scared, I don't know who I am.

Started by CrissyMarie, October 28, 2014, 09:36:55 PM

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CrissyMarie

I'm scared and need my sisters for guidance.  I've felt like a girl trapped in a boys body, yet never felt like a whole person.  All my life I've never felt like I was male or female.  Like I'm living in this grey area.  I tried to live as a guy for as long as I could but finally broke because of how badly I wanted to express femininity and be a girl.  I went through the steps of therapy and got the letter stating I was trans and that I should start HRT.  I've been on HRT now for almost 8 months, and indeed have make more feminine in appearance and expression but yet, my mind still can't tell me that I'm a girl.  It's like I'm both genders in my head.  So yesterday I was thinking about detransitioning and told my doctor and he said I need to see a therapist, because you can't be both, it's one or the other.  I told him that I wasn't completely miserable as a guy, but I still wanted to be a girl.  This all started because I'm scared of my future, I don't want to be an old woman and I don't know if I'll ever be able to afford SRS.  I want it alot, but yet I'm so scared of losing that part and knowing that it's permanent.  Sometimes I'm like, "I'm ok with being a guy as long as I can be a feminine guy" and then I see girls on the street and on tv and etc, and I'm like "god help me please, I still have the everlasting desire to be a woman".

I'm just scared and don't know what to do.  I love what I are in the mirror but yet I feel like it's so dangerous doing this and will I be happy later.  I've been very happy for these past 8 months, it's just...I feel like I've wasted so much of my life dwelling over being a female and now that I've started transitioning for 8 months...I don't know if I want to go through with so much body maintanance, learning how to behave, dress, and live like a girl.  Is this normal for transgender?  Or am I just to greedy of a person for wanting to be a woman and a guy.   :-\



"I don't always sit like a lady..but when I do" - I sit like a boss!
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Wynternight

Whenever I start to think about what is ahead of me and how hard it's going to be, and begin wondering if it's worth it; I stop and think about what life was like before and what it would be like if I stopped HRT, stopped everything, and went back to living life as a male.

I realize one thing: I wouldn't survive it. It would kill me.

Compare your happiness now to what you felt before and let that help you decide.
Stooping down, dipping my wings, I came into the darkly-splendid abodes. There, in that formless abyss was I made a partaker of the Mysteries Averse. LIBER CORDIS CINCTI SERPENTE-11;4

HRT- 31 August, 2014
FT - 7 Sep, 2016
VFS- 19 October, 2016
FFS/BA - 28 Feb, 2018
SRS - 31 Oct 2018
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Christine167

I'm in the same place you are Crissy. But the thing is you can be both. It's getting easier and easier for me to accept that I am a female and yet I still act like a guy sometimes because that's just me.

Now appearance wise and presentation that's up to you where you want to be physically. I find it's easier to be a boy but that's so not what I want to be. Even if that means I don't get go for SRS I can be happy.
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Delsorou

Well, I can tell you my own experiences, but they aren't necessarily going to mirror yours.

I spent a long long time trying to tell myself that I was both and could be both.  A really long time.  During this time, I became progressively more and more depressed and fed up with existence because I was not able to be female at all outside of online.  After one of my best friends who was also trans overcame a ton of stuff and finally began her transition, I sat there and realized that I needed to do something before any more time passed.  I realized the only reason I wanted to be male at all was so I didn't have to tell anyone I was trans, and so that I didn't have to "settle" for a transitioned life.  I wanted to literally create a brand new female identity that had never been male - it was an impossible goal, and keeping it impossible was my coping mechanism for not transitioning.

So I came out to my wife, and started making active attempts at beginning my own transition.  I questioned my course heavily for many months.  I've now been full time since February, and I STILL question this every once in a while.  I don't think that ever completely totally goes away.  BUT it no longer freaks me out like it once did.

The two things I did and continue to do that helped me deal with those nagging feelings were to think back and mentally account for all the things that told me I needed to be feminine during my life.  And a series of thought experiments.

For the first, I would sit for long stretches of time and just ruminate on my life up to that point, on my childhood, on my teenage years... what had happened, why it happened, what the signs were.  It's taken me a LONG time to piece my life back together, because I ripped those memories up when I was still in coping mode.  But piecing them back together forced me to re-analyze very closely the course that had taken me to where I was, and almost every step of that path told me I was finally turned the right way.

For the second, I devised multiple scenarios of a generic type - public events, private events, dates, hanging out at home, just about anything - life stuff.  And I would mentally create a purely male and purely female avatar for myself, and imagine myself doing whatever that was in the guise of both genders.  Neither of these were ME - they were just unidentified generic gendered people so my own identity hangups did not come into play.  I would commit myself to my imaginary role as much as was possible, and examine my reactions to existing in that form.  My reactions told me I needed to be a girl.

So now when I doubt myself, I think back to these mental exercises and their results, and I usually am able to talk some sense into myself.

Now, here's a thing though.  I spent 27.5 years being raised and treated and living as an american male.  I will always act with mannerisms and habits that reflect that, no matter how female I might be.  I will occasionally have thoughts and instincts born from that quarter of a century of gendered experience and react to them in a traditionally masculine way.  And that's OKAY, and it doesn't make me any less of a woman.  There is no law that says I have to act a certain way to be a girl.  I like cars, I don't pretend I don't know how they work, I take charge of situations when it's necessary to do so, I speak up when I need to be heard.  I also giggle and laugh and love when my wife takes my hand walking down the street and fail to understand most ball related sports.  These are societal constructs of masculinity and femininity.  I have some of both - probably more masculine traits than I would've had if I had been born with the right body, but that's okay.

And it took me a LOT of effort to think this way.  To be okay with the fact that I have those experiences and they will always affect my thinking.

So, I just wrote a small novel on the topic.  This proves that yes, it's normal to think about these things and no, you are not alone in having doubts.  But your personality doesn't need to be such an effort - you are not obligated to act girly to be trans or to be female.  Just be you.
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sam79

Hey Chrissy.

I really struggle to grasp how it might be to feel between, but certainly through observation, it happens. But your post also suggests to me that you're already going in the right direction. "if I'll ever be able to afford SRS.  I want it alot" and " I love what I are in the mirror". Perhaps I'm just reading into your post, but that is how it reads to me.

I definitely understand the fear... the fear of the future. The fear of the unknown. It's healthy, and so important to keep you on the straight and narrow. But do be careful that the fear isn't preventing you from moving to the place you need - regardless of what that may be.

So my advice would be, just slow it all down. There's already enough external pressure on us, we don't need to compound it with worry about things outside of the here and now. Take time to settle, and just listen to yourself without the worry.  :)

xx
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Jessica-Louise

I too felt this conflict for about 29 years. Part of what made figuring out my identity so confusing is that my sexuality is really fluid and I'm kinda tomboyish. I like a lot of guy things as well as girl things. Wanting to stay in touch with aspects of your guy side too is normal because you were raised as a guy so that's a part of who you are. It doesn't mean you're not a woman. No one, or at least very few, are completely 100% one thing or another. Why swap one set of rigid gender stereotypes for another? I also worry about not being able to afford the surgery and since my sexuality is so fluid I have no idea if it's just gonna settle one day and if it settles on women then I'm getting an operation that makes me less compatible with them... but then the idea of being someone's boyfriend again grosses me out and I already can't get erections so... I guess it makes sense for me. It's a huge drastic surgery though and it's absolutely right that you think about that carefully. I mean, some women just have dicks is all. No big deal.. except to like LOADS of people but they're not your problem. Personally, I rarely think of detransitioning though... the only time is when I think of my hetero friend Sarah who I'm madly in love with and now that I'm transitioning there's no chance she'll love me back. I paused transition ten years ago because of love and then eventually got dumped though so that was a HUGE mistake that I can't repeat. Best to wait for someone to love the real me... any day now... pretty sure...

Oh wait, I think I'm making this about me. Sorry!

"I don't know if I want to go through with so much body maintanance, learning how to behave, dress, and live like a girl.  Is this normal for transgender?"

Okay, I'll compare notes with you. I'm just one person though and we're a VERY diverse bunch so don't fret if my experiences are different. So, body maintenance is a huge chore. I find it tiring too but personally for me it's worth it. Learning how to behave was easy for me though coz I just stopped holding back. My folks recently visited me for the first time since I came out and they were amazed at how naturally femme I act. This really surprised me though coz I have this terrible paranoia that I just come across as some dude wearing mascara and tank tops, etc but everyone assures me that's not the case. Dressing and living as a woman and expressing my femininity has been delightful for me though... don't you enjoy that? I feel like that bit should be enjoyable if you're trans. Maybe you're just exhausted? It's a big change and I think it'd be normal to feel tired. My voice is probably the single biggest source of dysphoria for me. It just feels so impossible to change that it just feels hopeless at times. I'm getting the impression lately that people often don't clock me until I open my mouth and I really hope I can improve on that by January when I go back to school or else I think it'll seriously mess up my confidence. Actually I'm so nervous about school that I kinda almost wanna detransition just outta pure fear. But if the only thing making me question transition (aside from Sarah *swoons*) is that I'm scared of the transition itself or not being accepted then I think it's pretty clear that I am trans. The subsconscious has a way of detecting perceived threats to its survival and tries to pull the brakes from time to time. You said you were scared so maybe that's what is happening with you? Again, I think this is a normal way to feel from time to time but it depends on what exactly you're scared of I think.

Now don't take this the wrong way because I'm no gender expert and I am in no way saying that you're less woman than anyone else but your fears of becoming an old woman interest me. You said you don't want to be an old woman which I can partially understand because I'd rather not grow old either but are you saying you'd rather be an old man? I get that old women have it harder than old men in some ways but the idea of growing old as a man is part of what terrified me into transitioning now. I'm just comparing notes here but for me the idea of growing old as anything other than a woman fills me with deep regret.

But, and I'm just throwing this out there as a consideration not a judgement, it's also possible that you could be non-binary/ gender neutral/ gender fluid/ two-spirit, etc. I'm not saying I think you are at all but some people think they're binary trans before they realise they're non-binary. Because sure, you could be a tomboyish woman which makes total sense since you were raised as a boy but some people actually are both man and woman in a more literal way. If you have doubts about who or what you are maybe you should think of speaking to the folks in the non-binary section? Just so you can compare your notes to them as well as ours. Even if you did turn out to be non-binary transition might still be the right choice for you but I guess you'd have to relook at everything from a new angle and maybe talk to your gender therapist again?


We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us. ~ Bukowski
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androgynouspainter26

I think this whole thread brings to light the very importance between femminity and female-ness, and I think that's the question you need to answer Chrssy-do you want to be female (as in, have a female body) or feminine (dress, talk, act a certain way).  The first is a great reason to transition; the second not so much, and they don't always overlap.  I actually have a dear dear friend who is butch-very masculine in her presentation but is still on hormones, etc-she's female, but not very feminine.  So...I guess that's just something to think about. 
My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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PinkCloud

I learned to integrate the male qualities into the female that I am. To be honest, my brain grew up mostly on testosterone, I cannot deny the wiring it made on top of the female wiring I got at birth. My brain is a heap of messed up wires when I just started out 5 years ago questioning myself. I had to untangle the wires until it became obvious that I was female, especially since I loathed my body. Just as testosterone alters the bones, it also wires us differently. Luckily I believe these connections can be undone with estrogen, so that the connections will wane over time. The brain isn't something static. It evolves daily.

I believe there is nothing wrong with having some male qualities as a girl. And what are male qualities anyway? I do think that testosterone matured parts of my brain and estrogen matures other parts of my brain. I might feel like a hybrid at times, but definitely identify as female which is my core/soul identity.
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CrissyMarie

Thank you all for these wonderful thoughts and help on my situation.  Everyone pretty much knew exactly what I was talking about.  To simplify what I was saying is basically, I do want to be a woman and feel in my heart that I am one.  I just have fears of losing who I am and unsure of ever being able to cope with this new found mental change and appearance.  I love being a woman and despise the thought of living as a guy.  From that unwanted thing between my legs to the mannerisms, body hair and etc.  I was afraid of learning all over again a new gender role.  I felt overwhelmed and scared if I could live a full happy life as a woman.  So after thinking over and over my life so far and weighing out the pros and cons I believe I should be who I've always been but will identify and continue with my transition to female.  I know this is a long and difficult road to take, and I will never be the complete girl I see in my head, but I think I need to keep striving forward and do the best I can.  I'm sure things will become easier over time.

I see now who I am inside.  I am a female and will present as one, but I am a tomboy and will behave how I feel at the time, whether that's like a boy or a girl, depending on the situation.  I am a dual personality kinda girl.  You all have given me alot more confidence in my transition and have eases most of my fears.  Thank you (here's to you ladies) Cheers!



"I don't always sit like a lady..but when I do" - I sit like a boss!
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Jessica-Louise

I'm glad you're feeling better!  :)

You're certainly not alone though, CrissyMarie. To be honest, although I like my new life I still feel overwhelmed and scared way too much of the time. It all gets better though... just need to be patient and stay strong. It'll be really nice to not feel like I have to make such an effort to be strong though... that's the one thing I miss about my old life... how easy it was to hide.


We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us. ~ Bukowski
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alena

I'm happy you figured it our Crissy. This thread sums up what I'm going through and some of the replies have really helped  :)


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Julia-Madrid

Hiya CrissyMarie,  you said:

Quote from: CrissyMarie on October 29, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
I know this is a long and difficult road to take, and I will never be the complete girl I see in my head, but I think I need to keep striving forward and do the best I can.  I'm sure things will become easier over time.

For sure it's not the easiest road to take, but then again, your posts show that you have pretty much recognised that it's the road you need to take.  But it's not a race, and you'll get there.  You are young; you have plenty of time (really!); and if there is one thing I urge you to do it's to enjoy your life and make the best of the present.  To only live with a future goal in mind is no way to live, and in my experience the journey is often much more fun than the eventual destination.

I also want to gently take issue with you over the "complete girl" that you see in your head.  Hon, you look pretty good so far, and, conjecturing about what that complete girl is like, you may be imagining her as a curvaceous fertile beauty.  Except of course that many cis women are none of those things, and yet are fully women.  You've already stated that you're a tomboy, and this is a perfectly valid model of a woman.  Go easy on yourself and let The Girl manifest herself in a real and honest way, in her own time. 

Hugs to you, sister!
Julia
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