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Getting my first experience with ->-bleeped-<-s

Started by skin, November 02, 2014, 02:58:36 PM

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skin

I have an OkCupid profile.  I mostly have it because I find it very entertaining, I don't really have any hope of meeting someone.  Ever since the word transgender entered my profile, that entertainment factor has gone way up.  Even though my profile clearly states I am only interested in women, 90% of my profile visitors are now dudes.  Two days ago, I put up a new picture that is a lot femmier than what I had, and now I am getting creepy messages from dudes.  I'm sure one day it will bother me, but like I said I use the site for entertainment.  Beyond laughing at how creepy it is, it honestly gives a little confidence boost as well  :)
"Choosing to be true to one's self — despite challenges that may come with the journey — is an integral part of realizing not just one's own potential, but of realizing the true nature of our collective human spirit. This spirit is what makes us who we are, and by following that spirit as it manifests outwardly, and inwardly, you are benefiting us all." -Andrew WK
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Devlyn

I hate that term.  We reserve the right to land anywhere we want on the gender spectrum, but then propose to deny the right to desire someone who occupies that position from people. Someone who found me attractive would have to like a female presentation and a penis. I'm afraid they would be treated like an outcast here.
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CrissyMarie

I can agree that there is alot of pervs and people wanting the taboo factor.  I've used OKcupid for quite awhile and after combing through the list of guys who message me, I met a sweet guy on there.  We dated some and asked me to be his girlfriend and I said ok.  Things were great for about a month, loving, kissing, affectionate, cuddles etc.  though at one point he said to me he wanted to see my boy side.  As in wanted to taste me ...(down there) as well as me "do" him.  I said hell no, never happening.  Take me like a girl and I'll play my part but that's never going to happen.  So beyond that I slowly have found his personality is very far off from mine.  So I just broke up with him today..sadly.



"I don't always sit like a lady..but when I do" - I sit like a boss!
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TSJasmine

#3
It's funny <not allowed> with guys, huh?? hahaha I go on omegle all the time & it's funny to see guys trip out when I tell them I'm a tgirl. Some next, but most don't believe it & ask for proof. I don't give it to them though, obviously. I've been dealing with ->-bleeped-<-s forever though. You'll get used to it or just resent it. *most* of the are closeted or won't be with you in public unless you're exceedingly passable. Even then, they're still weird about it.

*mod edit for language
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Ev

I don't mind being listed as "trans" because I am essentially bi.  Ladies and gents and everything in-between...if they look good, they look good.  So, that said, to limit myself to man/woman is kind of, well, limiting as a bisexual.  Or is it pansexual?  I think that is what the kids are calling it these days.  I don't care what I am called because I don't care what others are.

When a man found out (on his own) that I was a "trans" he took the liberty of showing me his Mini Me in the aisle of CVS, saying he never had a "man" excite him so much before and he was all levels of curious.  He tailed me from the Denny's down the road just to tell me that.  He was "slightly" tipsy as it was Halloween night, so I forgave him lol.  I think if I was just "female" he would have never done it...but that is just a guess...as Trans is a fetish within itself.  Knowing that, I play to it.
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April Lee

I have a loyal ->-bleeped-<- at the club I frequent. He is always really drunk, and usually pretty loud and obnoxious. The first time he hit on me, I was sort of flattered, but it grew old real quick. He made a mistake early on of admitting that he was into feminine men, which suggested that is the way he saw me. Whether that was his intent, that idea got sort of planted in my head, and it has become anti validation every time I see him.

Yet the real issue here is that I am not looking for sex out there in the world beyond my imploding marriage. I am just enjoying the process of figuring myself out without the static of sex messing with that. I don't even let my mind go there. Maybe I will get beyond that at some point, but I am not seeing it anywhere on the horizon.

I love the validation from both sexes. When somebody sees me as a woman, it melts me into a puddle on the floor. I really like somebody telling me I look good or even hot. I have had heterosexual men at a short distance clearly mistake me for a tall CIS cougar, and my heart pounds when that happens. I have had gay men and young straight women treat me like an older sister. I have had young lesbians who want to dance with me. That is all wanted attention, but there is a very fine line there, and it quickly can cross over into unwanted attention. CIS females learn how to do deal with this as teens. I am learning about it in my late 50s. There are tricks to break the unwanted attention. I have found looking like you are totally engrossed in texting, whether you really or not, is a really good way throw some ice water on unwanted attention. I am sure I will learn more tricks as I proceed.
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skin

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 02, 2014, 03:08:06 PM
I hate that term.  We reserve the right to land anywhere we want on the gender spectrum, but then propose to deny the right to desire someone who occupies that position from people. Someone who found me attractive would have to like a female presentation and a penis. I'm afraid they would be treated like an outcast here.

I understand what you are saying, but if these people were anywhere near my zip code and I was attracted to men, I wouldn't have any problem with their initial attraction being to my transness.  However, my profile says I live in an area no where near them and that I am interested in women only, so for them to still send messages that are pretty creepy I think earns them the title of ->-bleeped-<-.


"Choosing to be true to one's self — despite challenges that may come with the journey — is an integral part of realizing not just one's own potential, but of realizing the true nature of our collective human spirit. This spirit is what makes us who we are, and by following that spirit as it manifests outwardly, and inwardly, you are benefiting us all." -Andrew WK
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antonia

I've had some "->-bleeped-<-s" and I know some people object to the term but I think I'll define what the term means to me:

1. Someone who completely objectifies me, no real interest in my personality
2. Someone who does not treat me like a lady but rather a guy that looks like a girl, e.g. someone who flashes his penis at me or says very inappropriate things
3. Someone who would never be interested in a long term relationship, e.g. would never introduce me to his parents for example
4. Someone who is looking to get penetrated by me

I don't really care which term is used, but anyone who matches the previous description I categorize as "A creep that chases after transgirls", most women just call them creeps.
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androgynouspainter26

The great thing about okcupid-you can expicitly say you don't want to be seen by straight people.  Amazing feature.
My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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skin

I didn't even realize that.  I thought there were only preferences to filter whom you see.
"Choosing to be true to one's self — despite challenges that may come with the journey — is an integral part of realizing not just one's own potential, but of realizing the true nature of our collective human spirit. This spirit is what makes us who we are, and by following that spirit as it manifests outwardly, and inwardly, you are benefiting us all." -Andrew WK
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androgynouspainter26

Ohh yes!  You should check your settings again-it's saved me a lot of agony over the past few months :)
My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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skin

Thanks, I'll be sure to do that soon.  I'll take a few more ego-boosting creepy messages first though  >:-)
"Choosing to be true to one's self — despite challenges that may come with the journey — is an integral part of realizing not just one's own potential, but of realizing the true nature of our collective human spirit. This spirit is what makes us who we are, and by following that spirit as it manifests outwardly, and inwardly, you are benefiting us all." -Andrew WK
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lemon_ice

Quote from: antonia on November 02, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
I've had some "->-bleeped-<-s" and I know some people object to the term but I think I'll define what the term means to me:

1. Someone who completely objectifies me, no real interest in my personality
2. Someone who does not treat me like a lady but rather a guy that looks like a girl, e.g. someone who flashes his penis at me or says very inappropriate things
3. Someone who would never be interested in a long term relationship, e.g. would never introduce me to his parents for example
4. Someone who is looking to get penetrated by me

I don't really care which term is used, but anyone who matches the previous description I categorize as "A creep that chases after transgirls", most women just call them creeps.


Exactly! That is the definition of a ->-bleeped-<- to me too! I don't think there is anything wrong with being disgusted by, and avoiding this sort of person.. Although I have come across some guys who like trans woman but I wouldn't necessarily call them ->-bleeped-<-s.. I'm talking to one guy online at the moment, he had a previous long term girlfriend who was transitioning, the way he refers to her is always as totally female as is the way he treats me. He is looking for a woman in general but messaged me after his previous experience, which has given him a lot of insight and compassion into what we go through... He seems really nice to me, he appreciates trans women, so what? I think when most of us say ->-bleeped-<- it's more Antonia's definition that is meant...
Numbers one and two on that list just make me shudder :( four is rather grim too lol.
All these years, all these memories, there was you. You pull me through time.
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antonia

Yeah, I hope it didn't sound like I don't like guys or there aren't really nice guys out there :) Just that there are also creeps and at least in my circles we call them ->-bleeped-<-s :)


Quote from: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 07:27:02 AM
Exactly! That is the definition of a ->-bleeped-<- to me too! I don't think there is anything wrong with being disgusted by, and avoiding this sort of person.. Although I have come across some guys who like trans woman but I wouldn't necessarily call them ->-bleeped-<-s.. I'm talking to one guy online at the moment, he had a previous long term girlfriend who was transitioning, the way he refers to her is always as totally female as is the way he treats me. He is looking for a woman in general but messaged me after his previous experience, which has given him a lot of insight and compassion into what we go through... He seems really nice to me, he appreciates trans women, so what? I think when most of us say ->-bleeped-<- it's more Antonia's definition that is meant...
Numbers one and two on that list just make me shudder :( four is rather grim too lol.
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lemon_ice

Quote from: antonia on November 03, 2014, 08:10:14 AM
Yeah, I hope it didn't sound like I don't like guys or there aren't really nice guys out there :) Just that there are also creeps and at least in my circles we call them ->-bleeped-<-s :)

No way :) I thought your ->-bleeped-<- definition was really good, with no hint of misandrism etc. I think most guys would also take issue with the sort of person you describe too, I know all of my male friends would..  I think anyone who objectifies us is probably to be avoided, and I'm happy using the word ->-bleeped-<- to describe that sort of creep. Some my use the term differently though..
All these years, all these memories, there was you. You pull me through time.
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April Lee

#15
I sure had a T ->-bleeped-<- last night. With my domestic life imploding, I  have taken some solace in the alternative lifestyle club scene that has become my social life. I was just doing my dancing thing by myself, when this guy jumped in and started dancing with me very enthusiastically. I accommodated him by trying to dance with him, but his pace was little frantic for my taste. He was drunk, and I could tell he liked me. He called me "beautiful" several times, and I am thinking "Oh oh, I have been down this path already with another guy a while back". We go out on the back patio and talk. He tells me he travels all over the world and he "would like to take me to Europe". I have heard that one before as well. They always want to take you to Europe.

He then makes it very clear he is there for sex. Well, I am not, but I am there for a little validation, so I gently probe what he likes. In an alternative lifestyle friendly club, where everybody stands is a perfectly legit subject of early stage discussion. And he absolutely ruins the validation for me by indicating he is a gay top into gay male bottoms. I have heard that one as well, and my thought process always goes to conclusion that he sees me exactly that way. That is anti validation in my present mental state.

Well, he offers to buy me a drink several times, which I refuse. I simply say I have had my share and have a long drive home, which I actually do. Then we are joined by his male friend, which I took to mean a real friend rather than a lover. I saw him as the gay equivalent of this T ->-bleeped-<-'s wing man. The ->-bleeped-<- gets up to dance with somebody else, and his friend probes my interest. I make it very clear I am not interested in sex with anybody. I use the excuse I have to get up for work really early the next morning and will need to leave very soon. The wing man then says. "Don't lead him on". He gets sort of pissed when that happens". Oh oh, the Twilight Zone theme song starts starts playing in my head, and I realize this is getting really creepy. I have turned down his offer of drinks and told him I need to leave soon. "Lead him on", wow, simply wow. I excuse myself to go to the lady's room, which fortunately is near the front door, and I sneak out. I watch in the my rear view mirror leaving the adjacent parking ramp. I felt totally skeezed out by that, but I felt something else. I felt what it was like to be a CIS female in that situation. When I started this, I never thought that would be something I would ever experience. It has its own reward in a strange way.


Back home at about midnight last night. This Little Red Riding Hood is just happy to have survived a big bad wolf.


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AnnaCannibal

Is it progression if a cannibal uses a fork?
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April Lee

Quote from: AnnaCannibal on November 06, 2014, 11:23:14 AM
Am I a ->-bleeped-<- because I chase guys?

It's all about wanted vs unwanted attention. Most woman love compliments about their looks, but it is what happens immediately after that is the key. These men I would call "->-bleeped-<-s" immediately move on to sex with the very next thought, and are rather overt about that. I am not interested in sex at all when I go to these places, so that might be messing with my thinking, but can't these guys ever want to get to know you first, and maybe let you get to know them before sex is thrown into the mix. Where is the romance? Where are genuine emotions. It's a cliche, but they do make you feel like a piece of meat, and they are sharks in the water. If I wanted that sort of thing, I would want to hear beautiful music in my head. I want to see fireworks in the sky. I want to feel a tingle in my soul.
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Ms Grace

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 02, 2014, 08:53:38 PM
The great thing about okcupid-you can expicitly say you don't want to be seen by straight people.  Amazing feature.

I was about to post that I couldn't understand why they couldn't make that a feature, good to know they have. Not that I'm on that site.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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