if you could take a pill to stop Dysphoria with out changes would you

[Auroramarianna]

Boobs make almost anything better.

What? Who would do this all just to get boobs. I know you mean no harm but I find that extremely trivializing. Boobs won't make the pain go away.

[Jess42]

Boobs make almost anything better.

I don't know. They are kind of a pain in the butt. Rough roads, bumping into crap but, I guess they are worth it though. I would rather have them than not. Mammograms suck though. Especially if you're not all the way out. But yeah I would still rather have them though.

[Tori]

Aurora,

I was just having fun with stephanie. The post was in jest. Boobs can be a real pain at times.

HRT has made the dysphoria go away for me. YMMV. I wouldn't trade what I have in transition for a pill that didn't bring a more female experience along with the dysphoria lifting. I really enjoy what I have right now too much.

Sorry if I was unclear. I intended none of what you saw in that post.

[Auroramarianna]

Clearly.

I was just having fun with stephanie. The post was in jest. Boobs can be a real pain at times.

HRT has made the dysphoria go away for me. YMMV. I wouldn't trade what I have in transition for a pill that didn't bring a more female experience along with the dysphoria lifting. I really enjoy what I have right now too much.

Sorry if I was unclear. I intended none of what you saw in that post.

Um, oki, I am sorry. I guess I can be a real b**ch. It's probably cause I am jealous I am not on HRT, so no magic for me. I should shut up.

[Tori]

Hey, nobody is saying you were a bitch.

If I am not clear, especially when making a joke, it is not your fault.

Aloha,
Tori

[katrinaw]

No I would not take it, unless I was already female
I have boobs and semblance of a female figure, apart from face hair and voice felling better in myself

Love Katy

[katrinaw]

And being female is not just about my body, it's emotions and state of mind...
Just wanted to state my position 

[Seras]

No. I think gender expression is like a fundamental part of the human experience, even if it is all messed up due to being trans. I think if you change that stuff you would risk becoming a different person, to change a mind so much in one go would be for it to become a different mind and this mind right here would rather keep the status quo.

[Tessa James]

I think many of us have tried all kinds of pills or drugs including alcohol and more to dull our senses and kill the dysphoria demons.  Dysphoria is not a disease but a symptom or manifestation of something much deeper.  Our intrinsic identity at odds with our bods.

We take a pill for everything these days.  I was at a presentation about transgender health care recently and a physician asked why we don't focus more research on curing the "real problem" in transgender people's brain physiology or structure.  Oh that's right they tried that with electro shock therapy.  How well did that work out for us?

There are any number of sci fi type solutions that may become the real future.  Would you bring your fetus/baby to term if you knew they were going to be trans or something else undesirable?  Some parents already face that sort of tough choice with several syndromes diagnosed well before birth etc.

A brave new world of eugenics?  No thanks

[Deinewelt]

I think about this sort of thing all the time, and overwhelmingly hope that this never becomes a standard treatment.  The mistake that society makes is to perpetuate the lie  that we can be something that we are not.  The idea that a pill would 'change' us so that we would be different inside is a myth.  Yes, with complete control over all aspects, you could restructure the brain and even the soul, but this must be a choice that a person makes.  All the same, if this was possible, I bet most of us would make the choice, unless against our own will, to be what we truly are.

If we truly wanted to be female then I would only imagine that such a pill would be have to be taken against our own will.  My hope is just that the trans movement picks up and it becomes much more normal for people to express and be themselves. 

[stephaniec]

I'm all for the Trans Revolution

[Jess42]

Um, oki, I am sorry. I guess I can be a real b**ch. It's probably cause I am jealous I am not on HRT, so no magic for me. I should shut up.

Being a real bitch is not a bad thing for us MTFs. It is sort of a right of passage. Nature gave me the things and yeah they are fun but no big deal though. Much like clothes, I love clothes though, but clothes don't make the woman and breasts don't either. You do and what you are inside. If you are female then be female. Boobs or not. Don't be jealous. I have little ones but they are sensitive. That is a pain in the butt. I have had them since puberty, yeah a little bit of a freak of nature here, but sometimes more trouble than they are worth. Magic don't really exist. Make your own magic Aurora. Like I said boobs don't me a woman. OMG, I have dated women that had smaller boobs than me. Oh yeah I got made fun of even and I am an A cup. But... I don't care. boobs aren't what makes me feel female. It is way deeper than boobs or a "V". Or as I like to say an innie insted of an outie.

[Jo-is-amazing]

A pill like that would literally mean the death of me. I am who I am, because of who I am. I am female, and in my heart I always have been, removing that from me would mean the creation of something that wasn't....well me?

I don't think removing such an intrinsic part of a persons personality is a moral action, its like the old school lobotomies of old, sure they remove the 'problem' but they also removed the person, their intelligence, their ability to function and their enjoyment of life.

I think such a pill would be a crime against humanity, because even though my trans*ness has caused me so much pain, it is my pain. Pain that went into forming me as a person and without that pain I simply wouldn't exist.

That's my thoughts on it <3
xoxo

[kaye]

Too late now. Pre-transition I doubt I would have taken something like that anyway.

[Catherine W.]

If there was some way to completely revert my entire mental state to the time when I thought I was a cisguy I still wouldn't do it. Even if I had total and permanent amnesia of all that has happened to me. I say this because for the first time in my life I have found traction and feel like I know myself a lot more then I ever did. I know for a fact that I am a girl, this is who I am. It just that I never that I was the real me as a guy, it sort of all felt like I was looking in on someone else's life and that mine was just being postponed.

I never want to go back to that part of my life, totally unmotivated and disliked by many.

- Catherine

[Kova V]

I think many of us have tried all kinds of pills or drugs including alcohol and more to dull our senses and kill the dysphoria demons. 

This!

Also being numb doesn't change who you are. In the end the dysphoria is a result of you not being yourself. You can't not be yourself and function properly.

[Jess42]

A pill like that would literally mean the death of me. I am who I am, because of who I am. I am female, and in my heart I always have been, removing that from me would mean the creation of something that wasn't....well me?

I don't think removing such an intrinsic part of a persons personality is a moral action, its like the old school lobotomies of old, sure they remove the 'problem' but they also removed the person, their intelligence, their ability to function and their enjoyment of life.

I think such a pill would be a crime against humanity, because even though my trans*ness has caused me so much pain, it is my pain. Pain that went into forming me as a person and without that pain I simply wouldn't exist.

That's my thoughts on it <3
xoxo

Wow Jo. You truly are amazing and extremely insightful. Labotomies never even entered my train of thought but you are right. I am so intwined with my "transness" I really don't know how to act without it. Well for starters I wouldn't be me because it has been such a big or the biggest art of my life so far.

But you have heard this and I am sure everyone else has too. "No pain, no gain." Another one is "Steel is tempered with fire to make it stronger." I personally think we are totally underestimated. I believe we are stronger than the rest of society. It may sound really messed up but I am proud to be trans. Especiaplly when the rest of the world try to make me feel ashamed of it. But I still hve pride in being the "T" in the equasion. Yeah it causes me some trouble and strife but look at all the members here. Everyone here gives me strength to be mytself no matter what the consequences that I may face.  We a strong and we are gaining ground. When I got on my home page, Lavergne Cox was making the headlines. How cool is that?

[Balerie]

I think that back when I was younger aka early teens I would have taken that pill but nowadays I feel that my dual  gender is a big part of me. I think that taking that pill would  change so many things about me that I enjoy. I have issues but I don't think I would trade it for complete removal of half my personality.

[Pebblez]

If not having that disphoria meant I could be happy and not hurt/lose the ones I love...there is a chance I would.

[Wild Flower]

I wouldnt be me. I might take it for a day to see what it does and if if can be a coping mechanism then yes. If its permanent then... make me androgynous but dont make me a man since Im not a man in that sense. I cope well because Im short and look cute (through effort).  I never want to look like Vin Diesel... I dont want to be him. I dont want to be Rosie ODonnel either. If no man can find me attractive as a woman then Ill rather be me... since oddly I attract men... way more than women. But its a grey world since I feel like Ariel... the original story...

Im a woman. I need to pass as one. If i cant pass then Ill take beauty over passing.

If theres a pill to make me into a very beautiful man then yes give it to me. I said beautiful not handsome. The closest I can think of is Bill Klautiz but hes not beautiful anymore.