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Started by LatrellHK, November 15, 2014, 09:33:32 PM

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LatrellHK

I heard, from a friend after a weird conversation we had, that places can be sued if, say, a male goes inside the female restroom and the place in question does nothing about it. Same for females in mens restrooms. So I have a question: Is this even true? What happens if you're a transgender? I get weird stares, confused 'lemme go check the sign real quick' moments, those awkward times when people are literally INSPECTING my face, and either politely asked if I'm a young man or lady or yelled at or even had security called on me, which is why I carry my ID on me especially when I'm in public and know I can't get away with going in the mens room.

I get basically harassed in the females restroom whenever I go in to simply pee, but I get it worse when I'm in the mens restroom and I come across a high school guy (the high school is small so everyone knows everybody) or some ignorant ->-bleeped-<- who wants to know why the hell I'm in the stall to pee. Now releasing a demon is no problem. I do my business, wash my hands, adjust my hat, get out. Peeing is a slight problem. Unless I got a packer and/or it's crowded.

So what do I do? Where do I go? I'm so irritated with feeling extremely uncomfortable going to the bathroom at school, at work, in public, especially the females restroom, but I can't risk going in the mens restroom out here cause it's so small, and I've been living here for two years now, so its not hard to recognize a face that goes to school with you.

Also, I am not allowed to use the mens restroom at my high school unless I get a doctors note. Seeing as I am almost done here and the closest doctor to do so, that most likely will I mean, is an hr and a half away, I'll just bite my tongue and deal with it. But I hate the rules.
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: LatrellHK on November 15, 2014, 09:33:32 PM
I heard, from a friend after a weird conversation we had, that places can be sued if, say, a male goes inside the female restroom and the place in question does nothing about it. Same for females in mens restrooms. So I have a question: Is this even true? What happens if you're a transgender? I get weird stares, confused 'lemme go check the sign real quick' moments, those awkward times when people are literally INSPECTING my face, and either politely asked if I'm a young man or lady or yelled at or even had security called on me, which is why I carry my ID on me especially when I'm in public and know I can't get away with going in the mens room.

I get basically harassed in the females restroom whenever I go in to simply pee, but I get it worse when I'm in the mens restroom and I come across a high school guy (the high school is small so everyone knows everybody) or some ignorant ->-bleeped-<- who wants to know why the hell I'm in the stall to pee. Now releasing a demon is no problem. I do my business, wash my hands, adjust my hat, get out. Peeing is a slight problem. Unless I got a packer and/or it's crowded.

So what do I do? Where do I go? I'm so irritated with feeling extremely uncomfortable going to the bathroom at school, at work, in public, especially the females restroom, but I can't risk going in the mens restroom out here cause it's so small, and I've been living here for two years now, so its not hard to recognize a face that goes to school with you.

Also, I am not allowed to use the mens restroom at my high school unless I get a doctors note. Seeing as I am almost done here and the closest doctor to do so, that most likely will I mean, is an hr and a half away, I'll just bite my tongue and deal with it. But I hate the rules.

See if at school they will let you use the nurse's office.  In most states you are supposed to use the restroom that is on your I.D. 
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Brandon

No they allow me to use the boys they don't want me using the girls cuz I am a guy and don't look like a female at all. My school is more liberal though and are more accepting I use tge mens bathroom for gmy cuz they don't want me in the girls locker room plus I got another haircut.
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Samu

I know exactly what you are talking about. I'm at a weird point where i feel really uncomfortable going into either bathroom. I can certainly pass as male, however I currently don't own a packer so sitting down to pee is a bit suspicious. So usually I go ahead and suck it up and face the girls bathroom, where like you, have also been questioned and security has gotten involved a few times. And it doesn't ever feel good to have to defend I'm in the correct bathroom because I mean I'M NOT. And I'm from a little town in Texas and I'm constantly stressed about running into a guy from school, (I've graduated high school, but I wasn't out when I was attending) because an accusation of being in the wrong bathroom isn't exactly the ideal time to explain my situation.
It seems like where you go to take a leak shouldn't be this huge deal, and especially not something that should be causing anxiety. It's hard but you aren't alone, so stay strong!
Though its a lame thing to have to worry about, I don't know about being sued.
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AdamMLP

I had a similar sort of problem for a long while, never really found a solution to it though.

When I was at school it wasn't so much of a problem because I wasn't out, and I didn't pass when I was there because the uniform was no tie and a skirt for the people they thought were girls.  It was a lot easier to use those toilets as well anyway because there were six bathrooms for "girls" but only three much smaller ones for "boys" in my school.  It was a tiny school so everyone knew me, so were only shocked by someone who looked like a guy being in the toilets when I was in sports kit or something and they just caught a brief glance at me and didn't realise who I was.

When I wasn't at school and wearing that stupid uniform though things were a lot harder.  I come from a small village where everyone knows me there because I'd lived in the only village pub for 17 years, then there was everyone else who knew me from school and other places.  The chances of me seeing someone who might know me, even if I didn't recognise them, was too high for me to risk going in the men's out in public, even if I wasn't with my family who had no idea I was trans.  That lead to a couple of pretty awkward moments, with a landlord of a pub physically trying to drag me out of the toilets once, ending in a friend's entire birthday party getting kicked out.  I used to try and use disabled/unisex toilets when I could and knew where they all were in the town I was normally in (Subway and the trainstation became good friends of mine!).

At college it was difficult as well though, because only the people in my class thought I was female, everyone else was reading me as male.  I used to duck in and out of the toilets at times where the majority of people were in lessons when I was in the main block, but if I was in a different block I'd walk over to the carpentry/boatbuilding block and use the female toilets there.  It was too risky for me to use the male toilets in case someone did know me and see me there, but there were barely any females taking those courses so much less likely that I'd come across someone else in the toilets.

The same thing happened at work until I came out as well, there was our company using the training facility, all of whom knew me, but there was also another company who didn't know me.  Fortunately although the trousers were pretty much the same colour, the boots we wore weren't, so if someone came into the toilets while I was in the cubicle I used to end up looking under the partition and working out whether they knew me or not by their boots.  After I learned to do that it was only going in and out of the toilets that caused problems, mostly with the cleaners.  Once I came out I had an awkward week where I was banned from using the male toilets at work to give people time to get used to me being in the toilets in the accommodation before I was in the same place as a urinal, and there was also worries that the Royal Navy (whom we rented the buildings off and sometimes used our facilities) might start an argument if they didn't read me correctly.  I used the one disabled toilet on the base, (a mile away, over a bridge and in the mess room) when I was at lunch, but the one day there was a burst water pipe and they were out of order I ended up threatening to pee on the manager's floor, and they soon sorted that out.

Since I've come out and moved away I don't have to worry about coming across anyone who might have known me under the impression that I was female anymore.  My struggle now is not having a toilet at work, and everyone else just being able to turn round, whip it out, and pee.  I don't want to out myself, so I just watch what I drink.

I've never heard of anyone else getting grief over using the cubicle to have a pee though.  You could be pee shy, have a dodgy stream, or just prefer it.
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Orangaline

im not even transitioning yet and i get some awkward stares from time to time.


i have heard alot about people having a hard time in the restrooms, and alot of people are agreeing that there should be more "family" style restrooms.
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LatrellHK

Well where I live, the city isn't very homosexual friendly let alone transgender friendly. So finding a bathroom that's unisex is hard. When I go to the city, however, I find it hella easier. Idk, I'm just gonna bite my tongue till I move out to the bigger city. the school I'm going to is located actually where all the doctors, therapists, and surgeons for transgender are.
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AdamMLP

Quote from: LatrellHK on November 16, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
Well where I live, the city isn't very homosexual friendly let alone transgender friendly. So finding a bathroom that's unisex is hard. When I go to the city, however, I find it hella easier. Idk, I'm just gonna bite my tongue till I move out to the bigger city. the school I'm going to is located actually where all the doctors, therapists, and surgeons for transgender are.

Look for small places.  Both Subway and the trainstation where I found them didn't have space to put two separate ones in, which is the only reason they had unisex single stall ones.
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FTMax

I'm at a weird point where I pass as male quite often, but frequently don't feel comfortable using the men's restroom just because of the setting and people that are around. It's tough dude! I would say gauge it all based on the situation and follow the rules at school if they're actively enforcing them.

I would second the advice of asking to use the nurse's office bathroom. It's probably isolated enough that you won't be able to use it between classes, but it would save you from any awkward social interactions with peers.

For when you're out and about, check this out:  http://www.refugerestrooms.org/

These are all user-submitted, so there may not currently be anything in your area, but it's something you could contribute to for others.
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Vesper

I can relate. I haven't even started to transition and I get girls coming out of the bathroom at the same time I am going in, gasping and going "Oh I thought you were a man!" despite the fact I've got a rather large chest. Of course, it makes me smirk a little. If I can deal with my top, I'd probably pass with out much problem...at least until I spoke. -shrugs- But seriously, if you are uncomfortable with your situation, you need to talk to someone of authority at the school that you trust. Maybe a guidance counselor or school nurse, etc?
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LatrellHK

Well after getting harassed yesterday to the point of cussing out a grown man in front of his child, didn't mean to do that cause of his kid, I told my principal and she arranged for me to talk to her and my dean later. After we talked we agreed on having my mom come, cause I am still a minor, and she actually said we'll find a way to talk it out and see what to do. I was fairly surprised and actually happy with her reaction. But just gotta wait and see, test waters I guess.
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LatrellHK

Quote from: lxndr on November 16, 2014, 01:50:41 PM
Look for small places.  Both Subway and the trainstation where I found them didn't have space to put two separate ones in, which is the only reason they had unisex single stall ones.

Although your idea works for you, not for me. I know the Subway doesn't have unisex and theres no decent trainstation that actually serves people, like transportation, so that's a no-go. No bus stations either, this city doesn't have very reliable public transportation. But they damn well make sure to either have separate gender bathrooms or none at all -_-
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Caleb18

To the original poster:
I'm currently in Alabama, and sometimes when I'm in the airport (I travel a lot because I'm a resident of the US Virgin Islands) I usually have to use public restrooms. Since, I look like this 
I usually have a hard time telling whether I passed to someone at male. Also, since I'm not in a trans friendly state or city, I definitely won't be using the male restroom until I'm on T for a little bit

Basically, just walk with your head down. Do NOT make eye contact with women, and they will leave you alone. Also, sometimes I do things to intentionally not pass as well. If they confront you, just smile and tell them you're in the right place. I've had a lot of run ins with women getting frantic and after I smiled and reassured them they've been pretty cool about it.

Hope I could help,
Caleb
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jamesdoran

Honestly, I have never had anything said to me about sitting down to pee in the men's room. I have an stp but for me it's too much trouble, and I've gotten over the dysphoria from sitting down. That being said, I definitely felt REALLY uncomfortable going in the men's room period before I started passing. Now, I wouldn't dream of going in the women's room because I pass consistently. And that part isn't really about my comfort, it's for the comfort of the women in there





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