Passing & Staying positive

[TSJasmine]

I'll take a listen when I'm out of the church service

omg lol

[TSJasmine]

Jasmine I'm going to delete this off topic message in just a second. It wont let me reply to your message. It says I'm not allowed. I'm new to the forum, as in a couple of hours ago. I dont know whats wrong and why it wont let me message you.

Ohhh that might be because you're so new. Hmmm... Do you have a kik?

[TSJasmine]

Whats a Kik?

Just go post stuff in other forums & after a while I think you'll be allowed to send messages.

[AngieFerg]

Okie dokie. lol

[TSJasmine]

no mention of pot of gold though  .passage wasn't read.

the voice sounds feminine although quite nasal.

How do I get rid of the nasal-ness? I've noticed that a nasally voice is a trait many gay men posses & I've had it forever & have always wondered how to get rid of it?

[ImagineKate]

Voice sounds totally feminine to me. Is it trained or is that your natural voice?

[TSJasmine]

Voice sounds totally feminine to me. Is it trained or is that your natural voice?

Hmmmm... Kind of? When I was still pre-pubescent I liked that people would always tell me I sounded like a girl & when I began hitting puberty, if I heard my voice crack I would sing in falsetto the whole day to try to counteract it. It didn't do much though I think. Also, that was me talking in my "female" voice. The voice I use on a daily basis is different & I only talk in that voice when I answer a phone or meet guys at a party. I'm just too insecure about it to use it in my daily life.

[JoDavanee]

How do I get rid of the nasal-ness? I've noticed that a nasally voice is a trait many gay men posses & I've had it forever & have always wondered how to get rid of it?

Nasally voice is actually an easy fix.. I used to be in radio and had quite a few people that started with a nasally voice.. A couple weeks of practice and they were fine.

I'll get some links to you tomorrow if I can.

[Jenna Marie]

Mostly it just came from ... living, I guess. Enough years (and it was a few *years*) of never getting clocked, and I started to settle down into having a boring average life.

Voice is a huge deal, it's true. I found that if I managed a very feminine voice and had long hair people would overlook a lot of other masculine cues. I don't have a trick for how I got the voice right, though; I practiced for literally hundreds of hours, recording my voice over and over and trying to repeat what worked, plus I imitated women I liked. I'm a pretty good mimic, so that helped.

I was 5'8" too (I'm 5'7" now), but women around here have an average height of more like 5'5", so it doesn't stand out. Still, even 5-6" taller than average isn't going to out you by itself, and confidence [even faked] counts for a lot.

[sam79]

https://soundcloud.com/bunny443/pot-of-gold

You sound great .

Actually you sound a lot like a woman I work with.

I wouldn't have any anxiety with a voice like yours.

[TSJasmine]

Mostly it just came from ... living, I guess. Enough years (and it was a few *years*) of never getting clocked, and I started to settle down into having a boring average life.

Voice is a huge deal, it's true. I found that if I managed a very feminine voice and had long hair people would overlook a lot of other masculine cues. I don't have a trick for how I got the voice right, though; I practiced for literally hundreds of hours, recording my voice over and over and trying to repeat what worked, plus I imitated women I liked. I'm a pretty good mimic, so that helped.

I was 5'8" too (I'm 5'7" now), but women around here have an average height of more like 5'5", so it doesn't stand out. Still, even 5-6" taller than average isn't going to out you by itself, and confidence [even faked] counts for a lot.

I'm waiting for that day to happen lol Also, is it true hormones can make you shrink? I've always wanted to shrink & I *actually* think I have. When I very first started hormones I was 5'8" 1/2". Now, ever since I started, I get recorded being slightly shorter & last time I went I was 5'8" flat. If I drop under the 5'8" scale next time I go I'll flip because all my prayers were heard lol

[TSJasmine]

my bad. I initially got a voice clip of someone (you? ) talking about how messy their room is...?

Mhhhmmmmm

[TSJasmine]

You sound great .

Actually you sound a lot like a woman I work with.

I wouldn't have any anxiety with a voice like yours.

Thank you I'll start using the voice more because I need to start working on my voice anyways :/

[Eva Marie]

Now days, I've no idea how other people perceive me. I just go about my way and don't really take notice. There are no issues when chatting to anyone or doing anything. I occasionally notice guys checking me out, but otherwise I'm basically ignored ( which is just perfect ). I believe this is just blending in, which has always been my goal. But I've also little to be anxious about ( I think ).

So if you get anxiety over your voice which you know isn't where it needs to be, then invest and fix it ( I'm suggesting therapy, not surgery ). You're going to need your voice for the rest of your life, so invest... .

If you get anxiety over things like height ( which you're not tall compared ), then you're going to have to learn to deal with it. Anxiety over something you cannot change doesn't have much purpose. Remind yourself of that every time, and soon it will just be, and it won't bother you as it does now.

This has been my experience too. I am what I am and i'm going to live the rest of my life this way so I just go and be myself and don't worry about it. I also agree with your comments regarding voice. I wish I were further along with mine; some days I can easily hit my high feminine voice and on those days experience tells me I pass much better; other days i'm suffering from drainage or my voice is more hoarse and it just won't go into that higher range so I try not to speak very much. The worst is when you are using the ladies room, your voice is off, and someone starts a conversation with you. The harsh acoustics in the ladies room amplifies things so if my voice is off I can really hear it and i'm wincing the whole time.

People do give girls with mixed appearance traits a pass if their voice sounds correct; i think it is probably the most important thing you can work on.

I'm 5'8" and I seem to tower over a lot of women. I can't do anything about that either so it's another thing I don't worry about.

[PinkCloud]

All the pain, problems, issues, harassments and other experiences taught me one valuable lesson: The outside world can never make you happy and feel at peace with yourself. True happiness and peace comes from within. The secret is buried in the most obvious place where few will dig to find the hidden treasures: the inner sanctum of who you are inside. Sounds cliché, but it is the biggest and most hard earned discovery and lesson I have made.

[Jenna Marie]

Jasmine : I don't know if it's true for everyone, but I'm an inch shorter since I started HRT, yeah.

My impression is that it's not so much that I actually shrank as that I carry myself differently now (if I straighten up as hard as I can, I get half of that inch back) because butt and boobs makes it more comfortable to curve my spine/angle my hips more than I did before. But as I see it, if I can't make myself taller than this without a lot of effort and can't maintain it more than a few seconds, this IS effectively my real height as far as other people are concerned!

My feet actually did lose about a size, too.

[TSJasmine]

Nasally voice is actually an easy fix.. I used to be in radio and had quite a few people that started with a nasally voice.. A couple weeks of practice and they were fine.

I'll get some links to you tomorrow if I can.

Yay! That's be so much help! Thank you n__n

[Lady_Oracle]

How did you achieve it?

tons and tons of practice!  To stop that nasally voice from happening all you have to do is relax your voice box as much as you can and speak from the top of your throat so it feels like you're pushing air from the top, not from the back of the throat... idk if that makes sense 

[Eva Marie]

I thought that the nasally voice sounds just like a lot of California girls. From that standpoint I don't see anything wrong with it; you sound more femme than I do.

[TSJasmine]

I thought that the nasally voice sounds just like a lot of California girls. From that standpoint I don't see anything wrong with it; you sound more femme than I do.

I actually am from California haha & thanks