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Started by Wals, November 26, 2014, 07:45:52 PM

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Wals

Hello everyone,

I'm having some concerns about my therapist, and I'm wondering if anyone could offer their two cents.

About me... I'm 22 years old, male-assigned at birth, identify as genderqueer but use male pronouns and present as male. I'm only "out" with a few close friends.

I originally came to this therapist because I've been having issues with my parents—just general stuff going back to adolescence that don't necessarily have a lot to do with gender issues. The therapist hasn't been a perfect fit but she has helped me with some things...

But I'm concerned about the way she reacted when I told her I didn't think my parents would accept certain aspects of me, such as my gender identity. She seemed shocked and in a bit of disbelief when I said I didn't consider myself cis. (I present as quite masculine, have a full beard, maybe I caught her off guard.) I guess she also seemed surprised that it was like the fifth session and I hadn't mentioned anything about gender before—as if it should have been at the top of my mind and my primary reason for therapy.

She asked me about my childhood and I said I grew up as a pretty happy boy but I'd never been gender-normative like my older brother; I also mentioned that my mom really wanted a girl after my brother, and that she sometimes dressed me up in dresses or something when we were playing dressup. My therapist made a big deal of this, saying it can be very confusing for a child, especially since my mother wanted a girl so much. Which may be true... but it seemed like she was trying to make me doubt myself. I told her I don't know if my mom's interactions with me predated my natural tendencies, or if they weren't complementary to what was already there. She said something like "yes you're right, I read a study about the X and Y chromosomes being stronger or weaker in certain people. People can be born with internal and external organs of different sexes". She just didn't quite seem to be on the same page. She kind of gave a strange look when I said I consider gender (and sexuality) to be a spectrum.

To top it off, at the end of the session she said "I hope you're not making a big deal out of this". I didn't know what she meant, asked her to clarify, and she said I'm experimenting with different identities at this stage in life and I shouldn't be worried about having these types of feelings. Now I was caught off guard because not once during the session had I expressed that any of this was distressing to me at all—the only part that was distressing, the part that I brought it up for, was because I'm worried how my parents (particularly my dad) would react if they knew.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. But I'm not reading into this too much, am I? Overreacting? The whole thing just made me feel like we approach the topic from vastly different positions, and I don't know if I want to continue to take advice from someone who sees things so differently than I do. And I feel invalidated by her but I don't know if she's right to question me like that, or if I'm just being too sensitive and I wouldn't face the same problems if I looked for someone else.

Is this type of reaction or approach, or line of questioning, pretty standard within the therapist community? Have people here had similar (or different) experiences? Like I said, I didn't come to therapy for this purpose so I didn't seek out a gender-issues specialist. But maybe it would be a good idea. I didn't expect the average therapist to be super "up to date" on these things but I was surprised by how old fashioned her reaction seemed. Warm thanks to everyone.
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Amato

Unfortunately it sounds like she's having a tough time being impartial and not projecting her concerns onto you. You may need to switch therapists if she keeps this up. Impartiality is key in a therapist-client relationship. Without that she might put concerns into your head that dont need to be there. It is possible to over think an issue and create problems that weren't there before, and you don't need that.

On the other hand, I would also warn not to expect a therapist to always stick to your comfort zone and to ask challenging questions from time to time. Their job is to help you with blind spots and figure out solutions to your problems, not be an echo chamber.

Overall I think if you can keep her on track with talking about your parents and not let her derail you to talk about gender issues you might be able to work with her. She might not be versed in trans issues, but that doesn't mean she's a bad family therapist.


PS: Welcome to Susan's btw. There's an intro board near the top of the forum if you want to say hi to everyone.

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JulieBlair

Hello and welcome Wals,
A couple of things come to mind.  First, you're here.  Why?  I suspect that you are questioning,  and seeking the person beneath the beard.  Yes gender and sexuality exist as a spectrum,  but it is bimodal in both cases and only you can determine where you fit.  I've never met anyone here who was on a polar end.  We are all more or less somewhere else on the function.  A therapist can help you find where, but introspection and conversation,  can too.

Frankly, I think gender identity and sexual orientation are kind of a big deal.  They largely define who we are and serenity isn't likely to be found by ignoring core issues.  Doing so made my life less than it could have been for decades.  You get to drive the therapy bus.  You should expect and hope for challenging questions,  but your issues are yours to discuss.   Have you asked her what her experience with gender identity and dysphoria is? 

Clothes do not trans make. How did you respond to wearing feminine things as a child?  You are who you are regardless of childhood dressing.  If it felt wrong or uncomfortable you might be a little neurotic from that experience, but I doubt if that would make you dysphoric.

You identify as gender queer.  What does that mean to you?  How do you want to live your life?  How do you want to be perceived?   These are questions that you may want to explore in a therapeutic environment.  Your parents will react according to their understanding,  for you to be a teacher, you need to understand the subject,  (yourself) and the cirriculum.
I look forward to watching your journey.

Fair Winds,
Julie
I am my own best friend and my own worst enemy.  :D
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adrian

Hi Wals,

your therapist definitely doesn't sound very ... uhm... experienced in gender things. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as she is supportive and helps you solve the problems you have. My therapist has a somewhat naive view of gender stuff sometimes (and I think the idea that gender is a spectrum is something he hadn't really considered before). The thing is -- he is totally "impartial" in the sense that he never judges or invalidates me. He helps me solve the issues I'm dealing with in connection with my trans*ness (I'm ftm). So if you and your therapist get along well and you feel she is helping you, it could be OK.

5 sessions isn't a very long period. It may be worth to give her some more time. It easily took me 3-4 months to totally warm up to my therapist. But on the other hand, if you have an "off" feeling about the relationship, the sooner you look for someone else, the better. Trust your gut feeling.

You may want to consider addressing your thoughts and feelings about her reaction in session. Be open about your doubts.
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Gothic Dandy

I think you probably did catch her off guard by presenting as pretty masculine, but identifying as genderqueer. Sometimes that happens to people, especially if they don't believe that gender is a spectrum, just a series of poles or boxes. If you have different views on gender, you are probably going to have a difficult time communicating with one another. Being on the same page is key to her understanding your gender identity.

I personally haven't had good experiences with therapists so far. The first one told me that I was probably not transgender, merely genderfluid. (Uh, genderfluid IS transgender...) He did help me dig deep into myself and figure myself out, but anytime he tried to analyze me, it was always in the vein that I wasn't trans enough. I'm a petite female with typically feminine mannerisms and speech, and not a tomboy. He absolutely could not wrap his mind around the fact that I am androgyne and want a body to match my gender identity, even if it means I will constantly confuse people.

The second one takes me at face value, but she's TOO accepting. She doesn't give me advice, she just listens to me and chats with me about gender theory. She also has really odd ideas that she seems to think are absolute truths, and talks about studies in a second-hand type of way...like she seems to make up the statistics and facts. Once she cited some study and made an assumption about the results, and because I pursued a degree in that field in college, I felt the need to correct her assumption. Later, apparently forgetting that we'd already talked about this, she cited the study again, and made her assumption again, but added that a certain percentage of the results were what I had told her they were. (If I'm more specific it'll turn into a long rant, sorry!)

I hope that whatever happens, you can find somebody who understands your gender identity and takes your word for it that you know who you are. And then, can help you resolve any issues it might bring up with your parents.
Just a little faerie punk floating through this strange world of humans.
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