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transgender is a lie!

Started by jossef-ftm, January 02, 2015, 06:36:29 AM

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jossef-ftm

I started to coming out to all family members lately cause i can't stay in closet forever! so i have so many questions from them everyday ...some of them ask me so many questions some of them think i'm a fool some hate me , last night my aunt tried to act smart so she asked me those questions!

she said you just want to do that so you can sleep with girls cause if you dont then you will not be able to so you want do this so things look normal and people say it just an other girl and a boy !!

she also said what the proof that you will love your self when you do it myb you will love it 4 or 5 years then you want to back to the real you!! i told her i'm sure i'm a man and that will never change she said people change everyday prove me that you will not!! you cant prove it!!

she said about sexuality what the prove that your sexuality will not change?!! prove it to me!

also you just want to be a boy cause you are afraid cause when you are a girl you have to do so many things from been prego and take care of a family ....so guys please i need your answers i already answered her my own way i want to know your answers to this questions if someone asked you this !! so please let's just discuss the subject!!
Sometimes, it's hard to find words to tell you how much you mean to me. A lot of times, I don't say anything at all. But I hope someday, you'll understand, having you is what I live for...(I Love you my Queen )
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Elis

1. Does she want to be a girl so she can sleep with boys and it seem normal?

2. I am and always have been uncomfortable and depressed at being perceived female and looking female. Medical transitioning will give me the best chance of finally being happy with myself.

3. Give me prove that your sexuality won't change. Sexuality is a fluid thing and there's nothing wrong with that. If I'm happy being with someone then I'm happy being with someone, why does their gender matter?

4. Not all girls want to be pregnant or/and take care of a family, to assume that is extremely sexist. As a man I can still do these things if I want too and I won't be the only man to do so either.

This is how I would reply. Good luck, I hope this helps you change her bigotry.
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nguoiviet

u aunt acts like all girls life goal is to get prego nothing else matters
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mrs izzy

Remember everyone thinks they now all the answers.

How you feel and how you should live your life.

I bet your aunt did not like her mother telling her what she has to to in life.

Everyone forgets its our lives to live and mistakes to make if that what they truly are.

Know one knows our minds and pain. No one knows our pain.

Move on and forward with your life with your understanding through therapy.

Hugs
Mrs. Izzy
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"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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jossef-ftm

thank you everyone for the replies.

Elis: thnx for the reply but what you said about sexuality is may sound common where you live but here if you tell them being gay is normal or its ok for a man to be pregnant they will shot my head!! or take me to a mental issues hospital!
Sometimes, it's hard to find words to tell you how much you mean to me. A lot of times, I don't say anything at all. But I hope someday, you'll understand, having you is what I live for...(I Love you my Queen )
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jossef-ftm

mrs izzy: what you said is right no one really knows our pain but sometimes i ask my self why we feel like this!!? or like why a gay person is gay !! why we re not comfortable in our skin, some people said it's our choice or like my aunt she said cause i think men are better than female that's why i'm trying to be one that's not right of course cause so many men want to be female so its not about who's better! but sometimes i really want to know why we are this way?!
Sometimes, it's hard to find words to tell you how much you mean to me. A lot of times, I don't say anything at all. But I hope someday, you'll understand, having you is what I live for...(I Love you my Queen )
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mrs izzy

As you know it's not a chioice.

Is IS a choice?

Only choice we have is to stay dying in our bodies or moving towards feeling happy inside.

Choice is the same they say about being gay. That's again no choice.

I lived by my signature line. They have a choice to judge or not.

Hugs
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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BrotherBen

You don't have to prove anything to anyone. You are TELLING your family what is going on inside your heart and your world, not asking them for permission. But you could tell your aunt how long you've been struggling with this already, and that it hasn't changed yet. You could also mention that your gender identity is separate from your sexual orientation, and mention that many trans* individuals are gay/bi after transition, not straight, but I don't know if that would help since you say your culture is very homophobic.

Regardless of the reasons, BEING transgender is not a choice. The only things we can choose are whether to acknowledge and embrace who we truly are inside, and whether to take steps to medically and/or socially transition.


Be weird. Be random. Be who you are. Because you never know who would love the person you hide.
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bambam

Ultimately you're not answerable to anybody but yourself. I've had a few encounters like this where people have repeatedly asked me questions only to bring out negatives in everything I say. They already have their minds made up, no matter what I say or do their opinion still wouldn't change. Pointless conversation.


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Elsa Delyth

Lol, your aunt doesn't quit, does she? Descartes pointed out two very important things about logic, the first being that logic is solely about form, and not content. Secondly, the vast majority of flaws in reasoning are not formal, or flaws of form, but of content. So, I'm saying that your aunt is simply ignorant, and reasoning with her won't do anything, because she sounds like someone that trusts her reasoning a great deal, and her reasoning is probably most times valid -- but that doesn't make it sound.

In Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book, infidel, she recounts a time when she told her mother about the moon landing, to which she replied something like "stupid Americans, go up to a high mountain and think it's the moon", just because she didn't know anything about it, and reasoned about what was achievable, based on what she thought was possible.

It isn't your job to educate your family, but you would do well to educate yourself, which will give you more confidence in the soundness of your position, and this confidence will radiate from you, and make others feel less confident about the truth of their own convictions.
"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." Emma Goldman.
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Ron

As someone said she sounds way too defensive for there to be a conversation and she also sounds controlling/abusive. That last statement of hers is very absurd and the other comments I can't even wrap my mind around them because they are so backwards. I feel that way about most of my family, I tried to connect with them on seroius issues but mental health is also important. Staying in touch with like minds and looking at the positivity and achievements trans people bring forward has helped because there is so much ignorant chirp chirp chirp and family many times are the worst offenders.
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Foxglove

Quote from: jossef-ftm on January 02, 2015, 06:36:29 AM

she said you just want to do that so you can sleep with girls cause if you dont then you will not be able to so you want do this so things look normal and people say it just an other girl and a boy !! . . .

also you just want to be a boy cause you are afraid cause when you are a girl you have to do so many things from been prego and take care of a family ....

Jossef, the title of your thread is very apt: ->-bleeped-<- is a lie!  It is a fact that many cispeople who oppose transgender rights adopt the strategy of denying that there is actually any such thing as ->-bleeped-<-.  Now they're ignoring reality, but it's hard to change the mind of someone who's determined to ignore reality.  In fact, I think it's a waste of time and I've lost my appetite for arguing with such people.

However, one answer I'd give to your aunt is this: look at her two statements above.  She's making certain assumptions about what's going on in your mind and heart.  Ask her how she can know more about such things than you do.  Tell her that you'd obviously know more about your own mind, feelings, motives, etc., than she would.

Try and turn the tables on her.  Maybe you know something personal about your aunt--e.g., something about the man she married.  Tell her, e.g., you know that she didn't actually love him.  She only married him for his money.  If she insists that's not true--she genuinely loved him--tell her, "Prove it!"  I.e., you're adopting her tactics.  You're declaring you know more about her mind and heart than she does.  Maybe you'll get through to her that way.  But I doubt it.  As I said, I think there's no getting through to such people.  I think we transpeople would do better to talk to people who will listen to us and not waste our time on the others.
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sneakersjay

Nearly 7 years post-transition and I couldn't be happier.  I've forgotten that I had to live most of my life as the wrong gender and currently living the dream... as ME.

Do what you need to for YOU and don't let the naysayers get you down.  Your life is YOURS to live, not theirs.  And what they think of you is none of your business.  The only person that matters when deciding to transition is YOU.

If you're going to be totally selfish one time in your life, this would be it.


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