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Are you a ''MAN'' enough!

Started by jossef-ftm, December 30, 2014, 03:29:49 PM

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jossef-ftm

well before a week i was talking to my aunt daughter in fb they live in europe so i thought she will be more open minded about me being a trans guy so i come out to her i told her everything...it was a long conversation she said if that make you happy then i'm with you go do it but trust me you will never be able to live like any other man cause its not your truth and you can't change the past that you was born a Female, also she said i will not be able to do so many things like bio men cause there is somethings in our genes like how we act or think she said may testosterone make me completely look like a guy but inside i will always have female genes i will never be 100% a real guy or think and act like one cause we can't change our genes and everything that made us and the way we do everything is in our genes, also she said why any bio woman will go for a trans guy while she can be with a bio man also even that happen i will not be able to protect her or treat her like a man and she will always feel like she's not with a man she will always tell her self he is not real!! that really hurt me a lot and i start thinking what a woman really want from a man cause i was with girls before but they always make you feel that you are not enough or always have to tell you oh no real man don't do that and you have to act this way or it's ok i didn't expect more i know you was a F!! this things really make me so angry and as a person that plan to have a family in the future it freak me out hearing this i know most of you guys from america and everything is ok there but not here i mean if you do something feminine there by accident no body will notice but here its a whole different thing you have to be harsh all time also if you show any feelings they will call you names also the way you dress (no swag-or jewelry or piercing allowed ) your hair cut should look like military haircut cause that what a real man should look like and i don't mind all that but the personality think is something freak me out cause now i already start to come out to family members and it's like they watching me all the time and they be like oh see i told you a f and you will remain a f forever and more craps i'm really so mad lately i need help!!what u guys think about all this!! what should i do!! i mean about the personality thing ! and about marry a straight girl just the idea of being with a straight girl freak me out cause i feel she will always think im not enough and myb she will tell me something so hurtful in the future if we fight or something she may tell me you was just a f and i accepted you!!! so many things going on in my life lately! help!i kinda become hopeless lately!!
Sometimes, it's hard to find words to tell you how much you mean to me. A lot of times, I don't say anything at all. But I hope someday, you'll understand, having you is what I live for...(I Love you my Queen )
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Tossu-sama

Well you can tell her that genes are not what makes a person one gender (or in this case sex, I assume?) or the other. It's the chromosomes that do that. And while genes can affect the way we behave to a certain degree, it's not 100% dependent on them. It's a much more complex thing than just genes.

To me, all this "you'll always have female genes" talk seems like yet another attempt to support their own "I'm not completely okay with this" feelings.
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AquaWhatever

 there's no female genes. like the comment above said it's like she's trying to support her own personal opinion
you can tell her some women are masculine. And some men are feminine.
it does not make them less male/female. And that she's generalizing. As for women..
some women will not care like some will if your bio or not
she'll be looking at a man non the less.
which is what she wants A man. You can look up trans dads and bf's/husbands on YouTube if it helps.
their relationships seems like any other straight relationship. I would recommend electric dade.

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Elsa Delyth

If a woman tells you that you aren't man enough, then you know you are a man. Every man worries about those things, and when someone is angry with us (us as in, anyone), they often go for the jugular, and hit you where they know it is going to hurt, even if they don't really mean it, or don't really think it themselves -- they'll say it because they know it will hurt you. So, I'm definitely not going to tell you that you won't hear those kinds of things from a woman that you love someday, but I will tell you that pretty much every man will hear that from a woman that they love at some time or another. Suck it up, big guy.

As for your aunt, she's just propping up her prejudice, don't let it get to you. Prove her wrong. 
"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." Emma Goldman.
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Mr.X

QuoteIt's the chromosomes that do that. And while genes can affect the way we behave to a certain degree, it's not 100% dependent on them. It's a much more complex thing than just genes.

Actually, chromosomes are the things that contain the genes. So it's still genes that makes us male or female. Just a small note. :P

In any case, I agree with what has been previously said. I understand you come from a patriarchal society, meaning it is based upon masculinity. This has been said before, but that doesn't sound like a healthy place to be trans. The posts you make all point towards that as well. People don't seem understanding or accepting of trans people. Again, it would be a lot better if you could migrate to Europe or another more open-minded country. I know, a lot easier said than done.

Your friend is just wrong in her statement about you never being 100%  male. What is that anyway? Beer drinking, football playing, bull wrestling, unemotional douchebags? Is that 100% male? My point is that 100% male does not exist. What is male to some is not male to someone else. You got your over the top males who never cry (they simply do not allow themselves because culture dictates them not to), buff up and go around prancing like peacocks. But you also got 'normal' males who just live life without adhering to the stereotypes. Just be yourself and don't listen to people who clearly don't understand a thing about being trans.
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Tossu-sama

Quote from: Mr.X on December 31, 2014, 04:39:16 AM
Actually, chromosomes are the things that contain the genes. So it's still genes that makes us male or female. Just a small note. :P

Haha, I realized this myself just now, too. :D Perfect example of what you get when trying to get all sciencey in the middle of night.
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