What percentage of trans people seek out hormones?

[transtastic]

Hi, I hope that this is not a stupid question. I don't understand one thing.
From where I read like ½ to 1% or something are transgender.
But I also read that only 1 in 10.000 is M2f transsexual.

That is not the impression I get from Susans. It seems like most are seeking or at least strongly
considering seeking out HRT.

These numbers don't add up for me. Help me understand this.
Are most transgender persons not transitioning and just staying away from forums like this one ?

[ImagineKate]

It depends on what you mean by transgender.

WAGs from me:

If you mean people who are diagnosed or self identify, I think it would be a high percentage but only because these people (myself included) sought out diagnosis to do something about our gender dysphoria.

If you mean people who simply have gender dysphoria, I would say that it is a few. Most people do not know.

Anecdotally, a lot of these HRT clinics have long wait times. SRS surgeons too. Even Yeson is backed up for months now. This would indicate a pretty high demand.

[Hikari]

Well there is a lot to being a transsexual woman, so we tend to have more needs for support and information about all the various physical things that are needed to transtion leading transsexual women to have an outsized presence on the forum versus the real world....
That being said there are some transgender people who are not transsexual per se, who do take low doses of hormones who are not planning on changing sex and might not identify as the opposite gender or their assigned gender.

[transtastic]

That being said there are some transgender people who are not transsexual per se, who do take low doses of hormones who are not planning on changing sex and might not identify as the opposite gender or their assigned gender.

But this is not what I get. According to my numbers only 1 in 1000 transgender person would identify as transsexual.
Could this really be the case?

[Devlyn]

I don't think it's a thousand to one, but obviously transsexuals are a smaller subset of the greater transgender community. Do you mind supplying a source for your numbers?

Hugs, Devlyn

[Devlyn]

It depends on what you mean by transgender.

WAGs from me:

If you mean people who are diagnosed or self identify, I think it would be a high percentage but only because these people (myself included) sought out diagnosis to do something about our gender dysphoria.

If you mean people who simply have gender dysphoria, I would say that it is a few. Most people do not know.

Anecdotally, a lot of these HRT clinics have long wait times. SRS surgeons too. Even Yeson is backed up for months now. This would indicate a pretty high demand.

I just figured out what that means. Do I win the slow award? 

[Reilana]

Hi, I hope that this is not a stupid question. I don't understand one thing.
From where I read like ½ to 1% or something are transgender.
But I also read that only 1 in 10.000 is M2f transsexual.

That is not the impression I get from Susans. It seems like most are seeking or at least strongly
considering seeking out HRT.

These numbers don't add up for me. Help me understand this.
Are most transgender persons not transitioning and just staying away from forums like this one ?

Hmm, I think you're confusing the HRT with SRS, as well as Transsexual and transgender, transgender is a big umbrella term really, and can refer to a whole range of gender diverse individuals.  Transsexual on the other hand, refers to a minority of transgender people who are fully committed to going the whole way, through HRT and eventually SRS/GRS, I recall my psychiatrist telling me once that at least in the case of m2f individuals, only about 2% of them will commit to the full path and go through both Hormone Replacement Therapy, and eventually Gender Reassignment surgery.

[Jill F]

**TRIGGER WARNING-suicide**

Short and scientific answer- we have no way of knowing for sure.   If we don't know how many people are actually transgender, we're dead in the water here.  We can't exactly ask everyone who ended their own life because of it and didn't tell anyone.

Here's my guess...

If 2%-5% of the US population falls under the transgender umbrella, and about 1 in 10,000 Americans is post-op, let's do some incredbly unscientific fuzzy math to get a rough number.   These are my numbers, they are nothing more than educated guesses and are not to be taken seriously nor debated.

Assume that 2-5% of Americans qualify as transgender.  For argument's sake, we'll approximate this to 1 in 30 people.  Of these people, maybe one in ten suffers from dysphoria that is severe enough to disrupt one's life, making this number about 1 in 300 people.   Of these, we lose some to suicide and others are unable/unwilling to transition.  Let's say one in three of these people make it to transitioning hormonally, making it in the order of approximately 1 in 1000 people.  I have heard that something in the order of 1 in 10 American transitioners are both willing and able to get SRS, which gets you to *BAM!* 1 in 10,000 people.

Now that's some fuzzy math and I admit to using some highly dubious and rough figures, but I think we're within the order of magnitude here.  By my rough guesstimate, we arrive at something like 1 in 30 people that qualify as transgender in the US ending up on hormones.

[katrinaw]

Personally, I am not sure that Maths actually works in matters that are deep rooted feeling within people, as people are very good at keeping things hidden unless they can't or can no longer control... for example... Me!

I was dysphoric since a very young kid, did not understand, certainly no labels... Hid and denied it for many years, but guess what I can't control the feelings anymore... I did not need diagnosis, I do not therefore appear on any reports. However I have in last 10 ~ 12 years been getting HRT from a Dr, have I been defined in the reports? very unlikely!

I think with transgender, most that fall into this group will all have different requirements, drivers and needs, some enjoy cross dressing, others just enjoy saying that they are and are convincing enough, others as Jill has mentioned do not appear on the radar until they try and harm themselves... For me HRT was a requirement to get me to a point where, at my age, I can at least make an attempt to fully transition, for me I would not have been able to move in that direction without, I would not mind betting that there are many others like me... Of course once I go for name change etc. and fully recognised as transgender, and on HRT, then I will become a statistic.

Either way (IMHO) statistics are not representative of a state of affairs, unless it captures all aspects of the subject matter, and can be retrospective, as there in itself shows an even larger diversification... With forums there are some who can live their dreams without actually stepping over any line... Which I must admit I did some 12~15 years ago... however for me that was the realization that I can actually do something about the feelings. Eureka! 

Of course this is just my views and ramblings

L Katy 

[ImagineKate]

I just figured out what that means. Do I win the slow award? 

Were you WAGging too? LOL

[Devlyn]

Were you WAGging too? LOL

No!     Yes.....

[HughE]

According to this paper:

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TSprevalence.html

at least 1 in 500 US citizens are trans, and it could be more. At least 1 in 2500 have had SRS, and possibly double that number (it's hard to know exact figures since a lot of people have the surgery done overseas). So those estimates of 1 in 10,000 are far wide of the mark - transness is far more common than most people realise.

[Devlyn]

I saw this on a crossdresser site: One person out of twenty crossdresses, whether in public or private. So if you're in a room with twenty people wondering who dresses, well, it's you silly! If there are forty people, you're not alone.

[Jill F]

According to this paper:

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TSprevalence.html

at least 1 in 500 US citizens are trans, and it could be more. At least 1 in 2500 have had SRS, and possibly double that number (it's hard to know exact figures since a lot of people have the surgery done overseas). So those estimates of 1 in 10,000 are far wide of the mark - transness is far more common than most people realise.

So, according to this paper, the range is 1 in 10 to 1 in 50 transgender people transitioning hormonally.  I guess I'm not so bad at making up stats on the spot...

[Devlyn]

So, according to this paper, the range is 1 in 10 to 1 in 50 transgender people transitioning hormonally.  I guess I'm not so bad at making up stats on the spot...

Yea, though you walk through the valley of the shadow of death, you shall fear no evil. For you are the badassest maker-upper of stats in the valley.