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Transparent Marathon - Realistic and/or Depressing

Started by Emily R, January 25, 2015, 01:58:40 PM

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ChiGirl

This [emoji115]  a thousand times.  It works.  And Tambor is dedicated to the role, it still feels right.  There are parts that are depressing, but I think it was great.  It helped me come out.  (And, gee, that's going great so far! [emoji12])

Can't wait for season 2.
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translora

I avoided watching this show for months, fearing that it would treat trans issues in a shallow or sensationalistic fashion. Despite having great respect for Jeffrey Tambor as an actor, I feared that no non-trans actor could ever capture the subtleties of being trans, and that no show on any major network could deal with trans issues in a realistic fashion.

Boy, was I wrong! Tambor was incredible (as was the entire cast), and the writing was so sensitive to the issues we all know too well that when I winced, it was because something hit too close to home. It never made me cry, exactly, but it made me nod, smile, laugh out loud, cringe, recognize myself, accept that all journeys are different, and feel like there is hope that the world will one day understand the path we walk. That's what art is supposed to do, right? (Those who are Jewish, which I'm not, will get even more out of it, since the family's relationship with Judaism is also explored extensively.)

That said, one of the most brilliant things about this series was that it treated trans issues within a robust context. And I especially appreciated that Maura was hardly portrayed as a saint. She has had real problems -- both trans-related and not -- and continues to deal with the fallout from them. These characters are not always attractive, but how many people do you know that are? That type of complexity, where there are no easy answers, and every answer raises ten more questions, is rare in television these days.

All of the characters are fully-formed, with their own story lines which bounce off of one another to create a show that explores trans issues the way we all do -- within the greater context of our own lives. If it had been all about Maura, and if she was portrayed as a victim of some sort, it would have been a much lesser achievement. And, my friends, this series is a very great artistic achievement, which just so happens to also model compassion for trans-folks to the world. Years from now it will be hailed as the moment when trans issues really found their voice within the culture -- in the way people look back at Ellen's coming out. I hope that Transparent has a very long run and that the stack of awards continues to grow (it has already won two Golden Globes).

There is no better way to bring our issues to a larger audience, and my only regret now is that it will have trouble finding that larger audience because it's only available (generally) to Amazon Prime members.

On a side note, it concerns me when I read "I haven't seen the show" followed by criticism of the casting. Actors who are good at their craft, which Tambor very much is, often find and reveal truths that would otherwise remain buried. His portrayal of Maura does just that, and he has spoken eloquently about his preparation and how deeply it affected him, and how it changed his view of our community. It shows in his performance. Perhaps there is a transwoman actor out there with the same chops, but I don't know of one. But I do know that the creator/producer, Jill Soloway, went out of her way to cast trans actors whenever possible, and is currently trying to make the show a training and seasoning ground for writers who are actually trans. (For those who haven't heard the story, Soloway's father came out as trans very late in life, just like Maura.)

So I bristle at "conceptual" criticisms which do not have the benefit of having seen Tambor's masterful performance, and the masterful writing, and the overall beauty of the series. (It's also very funny!) See the show!

Lora

Kova V

Yeah, I've been steering away from watching it. I hate drama especially with conflict. That and horror. It literally causes me pain and I have to leave the house and go for a walk/drive.

If I do watch it, it will be on mute (with captions) while I'm busy doing something else.
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stephaniec

I think  'True Trans' is far more relevant , just my opinion , not to be taken as anything other then a benign opinion.
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suzifrommd

I only saw the first episode. I agree with those who say that Tambor did well and the portrayal was accurate and sympathetic.

That being said, there's just the teeniest tiniest discomfort that Amazon is making millions off our struggle.
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Tysilio

Quote[Tambor] has spoken eloquently about his preparation and how deeply it affected him, and how it changed his view of our community.
Lora, do you have a link to this? I'd love to read it.

(Great post, BTW. You've nailed what makes the show so good. )
Never bring an umbrella to a coyote fight.
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ReDucks

For me it brought up the most cringe-worthy events of transitioning and made me feel a little bit uncomfortable at first, but I soldiered through it and by the end I was a bit more of a fan than after the first 5 episodes.  If anything the portrayal was a bit too slick, too easy.  There was no way for any actor to portray the fear of getting beat up, there were few 'looks of disgust' from random people on the street, it was clearly set in today's world with trans issues being much more out in the public's mind, and not in the 80's when I did it.  (This is a good thing, but made it seem 'too slick' to me).

The laughs were few and far between for me, but they were there.  In all I think it was really more of a miss than a hit, and I'm not dying for the 2nd season to start.  I kind of like that it made it on the popular screen in a way that wasn't too camp, kind of like 'boys don't cry'.  I think that the dialog needs to continue and these attempts at mainstream-ing transgender stories are going to help in the long run to make it so others can be themselves without the danger and fear it made me feel back in the dark ages.

I too am a bit concerned amazon is making bank off of it, but as entertainment it seems to have its heart in the right place.
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ImagineKate


Quote from: Emily R on January 25, 2015, 04:56:49 PM
Stephanie: You pretty much could only see it on a computer as it is not broadcast on regular channels nor cable and only on the amazon website.

You can also watch on smart TVs, roku, game consoles, TiVo and other devices
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stephaniec

Quote from: Emily R on January 25, 2015, 04:56:49 PM
Stephanie: You pretty much could only see it on a computer as it is not broadcast on regular channels nor cable and only on the amazon website.

I kind of agree with you in that Maura's role should have been played by a trans woman, unfortunately they probably would not have gotten the funding to do it with an unknown actor.

Elaina:   Don't take me wrong, I love NOVA and most documentaries, but most people don't!   They could have come up with a reality show concept where although not scripted but could be guided for things to happen they way that is convenient to the show producer.  It takes a special kind of family to air of the transitioning and family opinions but it only takes one and I am sure there is one out there.   I will say that is is not mine, as attractive as getting SRS, FFS, locally in the States by reputable experienced doctors and maybe cash could be.

TRANSITIONS:  seems that the concept is interesting and I will definetely look for it, but it does not attract viewers to win Emmy's.   Most of the viewers will have a personal interest, like us on Susans.

Emily
sorry, I much prefer watching Annie Lennox as Elvis

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translora

Tysilio,

After I finished watching the series, I just Googled "tambor transparent" and read all the press interviews he gave. The one in Rolling Stone makes for a good place to start:

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/features/jeffrey-tambor-transparent-transgender-20141009

As for Amazon profiting from the trans community, given the quality of the work, I feel very generous. You get and you give. Amazon will profit from something, and if they choose to try and profit by spreading goodwill toward the trans community, well, I'm OK with that! If it were schlocky or unsympathetic or obvious profiteering, I would certainly feel different about it (see: Jerry Springer et. al.). But Transparent is nothing like that.

I have nothing against True Trans and the like. Those shows certainly have their place, as do the many YouTube video channels of people detailing their own experiences. But well-written fiction can sometimes get at important things that are hard to tease out of reality, where people tend to put on their best faces, often as a means of self-preservation. Reality is never as clean as "reality TV" would have it be, even in the world of TV documentaries.

If we're honest, we have to admit that professional storytellers, as keen outside observers, have an important role to play in introducing complex concepts like "transgender" to the larger world. They see things that we long ago ceased to see, or that we could never see because we're too close to the subject. They put words and images together which we could not, and craft stories which, while not true, contain Truth. They pick at scabs we would rather leave alone (such as Maura's tendency to buy the love of her children with money). They can help us see ourselves more clearly at the same time they introduce foreign concepts to the greater culture.

That is what I believe Jill Soloway (and staff) has done so well with Transparent.

Lora

Tori

I am really enjoying the show and it rings quite true, uncomfortably so at times.

It is written from a daughter's perspective (the show creator really does have a moppa) and I enjoy that Maura is probably the most stable person in her family. She is fine. The rest of them are nuts. I love it!

Because of the timeline, it makes sense that a cis actor is playing the role. It would be different if she had been on HRT for a while but the character is pre.

I think Tambor is doing a great job.

I can't wait to watch the final two episodes.


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BunnyBee

Here are the acceptance speeches at the GGs.  I thought both were so beautiful.



>-bleeped-<-UfI
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translora

An important question to ask ourselves is why we might feel uncomfortable while watching this show. Why did I avoid it for so long, despite the fact that it got rave reviews? Why did I feel discomfort watching Maura trying to assert her female persona? Why did I sigh and nearly cry when Maura tucked her newly-purchased blouse into the garbage can? Why did the whole "trans camp" episode make my skin crawl, while also feeling so very essential to Maura's understanding of herself? Why did I feel the urge, more than once, to say to the TV, "But that's not me!" And why, in a moment that recalls Maura's new blouse, did I immediately delete the program from my Amazon viewing history?

These are rhetorical questions, of course. If there is any answer, it would only be that the show touched a raw nerve. It portrayed a character trying to navigate the same waters that we do, and not always doing it well. Maura has some downright clumsy moments (luckily, not played for laughs). It portrayed family issues which, while not exactly the same as the ones we all face, were similar enough to be recognizable -- even viscerally felt. It portrayed characters who were alternately shallow and terribly generous (as when Maura's daughter fiercely defended her use of the women's restroom, despite the fact that she was still trying to make any sense of what her father had only recently revealed, compared to when the children could not handle her stage performance and reverted one-by-one to dealing with their own personal issues).

When Maura went on stage in the drag show, I cringed. I would never do that (and you probably wouldn't either). But it was the perfect symbol for how it feels to be trans in the world, and it caught my fears of exposure and rejection exactly. It was truly painful to watch (and brilliantly scripted and acted). When Maura bumped into her former coworker, she handled the situation just as many of us might, though I wanted to scream, "Put your attitude away!"

My only point is to encourage those who turned away from this show to hang in there. Transparent is a lot like a good therapy session with a brutally honest therapist. That sort of experience is not pleasant, but often beneficial.

A couple of times I wondered where I should send my copay...

Lora

stephaniec

Sorry, just to play devil's advocate, would Al Jolson be acceptable in todays society
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BunnyBee

I had to look him up.  You were referring to blackface?  It's a good point, but don't think the two equate exactly because I do not think a trans woman playing a cis woman would be the same thing as a black woman playing a white woman.  In fact, I think trans women should play cis women, that should be the goal, because otherwise it's all very othering.  Like we aren't real women or something.  I also don't think Jeffrey Tambor's performance is mocking at all like blackface performances used to be.

That all being said, if you cast a cis person to play a trans person, you are walking a fine line.
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Tori

As an actor, the art is playing people different than you.


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translora

The "blackface" metaphor simply does not apply here.

In a minstrel show, a white performer uses garish makeup to create a cartoonish caricature of a black person in order to perform a certain repertoire in a specific, highly stylized, and horribly unflattering way. That was the gimmick, the attraction. Audiences understood a whole lot less about stereotyping, and what it meant to be respectful of other cultures. In large measure, the form evolved as a way to keep blacks from making grounds within the society. (And, as a side note, the implications to black employment were initially pretty much nil. Minstrel shows only existed at all because, at least initially, no one would ever even consider hiring an actual black performer to do such a thing, nor would any black performer want to be hired for that. Eventually, however, that changed, and minstrel shows did feature black performers.)

Casting Tambor as Maura is something much closer to what is known as "colorblind casting," in which the goal is to find the best performer for the role regardless of any arbitrary qualities that an actor does or doesn't have. It acknowledges that actors are hired to act -- specifically as someone they are not. That's all actors do, by the way: Pretend to be someone else, often someone who is nothing like them.

The merits of colorblind casting have been debated extensively, but the outcome -- the art -- is what generally gets the last word. As such, we should only really care whether Tambor was able to pull it off. As I have said above, I think he did it most beautifully.

Lora

Tysilio

Stephanie, I agree with Bunnybee -- the blackface analogy isn't a good one. Her point about the mockery involved in blackface is well taken, because it shows one of the ways in it's very different from what Soloway was doing in Transparent -- blackface is fundamentally dishonest. Do you want to say that actors should never play parts which are outside what they have personally experienced? That's pretty limiting. Everyone belongs to multiple subgroups: people can be divorced, high school dropouts, disabled, gay, veterans, felons, poor, Muslims... the varieties of human experience are endless. Should the actor playing Maura also have been a retired Jewish professor with messed-up kids? All of that, as well as being trans, is central to the character's experience, but no one has suggested that an actor should have all that history in order to play the role.

The craft of acting is to be able to enter the experience of many different kinds of people, and to make their feelings and lived experiences real. It isn't necessary to have had those experiences in real life to do that; it takes empathy, intelligence, talent, and a lot of skill and training. It has very little to do with having lived whatever-it-is in real life.
Never bring an umbrella to a coyote fight.
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stephaniec

so the civil rights movement was about the style of clothes one wore
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Tori



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