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Just arrived at Thailand..SRS coming up!!(My experience)

Started by JenJen2011, January 29, 2015, 09:41:47 AM

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Cynobyte

Could always say they are first aid to seal bullet wounds?
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AnonyMs

Regarding dilators, I recall coming across some info a while ago

Perhaps you could buy a spare and post it home? Apparently they were 1500 baht a year ago. Or split them with your parents luggage, hopefully they couldn't lose all of it.
https://thailandsrsexperience.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/3rd-day-alone/

I read something else that I can't post a link to, to the effect that Suporns dilators show up in airport scanners as being full of liquid, hence the risk of getting them confiscated. Except for the travel travel dilator which doesn't.
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JenJen2011

Post-op Day 23:

Today was a good day. I did my 3 dilations as normal, no issues. Today was my last visit with Suporn. He inspected my vagina and says everything is healing well (this is the first time he's seen it after the revision he did). I asked if I had any separations again and he said no. Thank goodness, lol. He did tell me again to not wet the area too much. He continued to be very adamant about that. He said use a little hibiscrub/soap and wash it off after each dilation and that's it. I think when I get home I'll have to use a blow dryer or something to make sure it gets completely dry, lol. I was given a ton of goodies for my trip back home. They also gave me a USB filled with pictures of my operation. Before I received it though, I actually sat with Suporn and he did a slideshow presentation for me. My stomach doesn't easily get upset when I see blood and guts so it was ok. It was actually pretty cool to see the process. At the end of the visit, I asked him if I could take a picture with him and he agreed to it. That photo was also added to my USB. Then I gave him a great big hug and said thank you. Good memories, yes indeed.

As far as my recovery, everything is looking good down there, especially after the revision. It seems as though many girls get a revision before leaving back home. There were 2 girls at the clinic today getting a revision. Dr. Suporn is a perfectionist. So anyway, things are looking good. Still very swollen obviously. The clitoris has feeling, the inside of my vagina is pink, my lips are still too swollen but will go down in time. I'm happy with it. We'll see how it looks down the line. It can only get better  :)

Since I've been relaxing in bed all these days in my hotel, I decided to go to central plaza mall again. I felt good and was up for it. Went there for a couple of hours. I bought a few pads that are longer and wider than what the clinic provides. I also bought some feminine wipes. This is for my 22-hour flight back home. The less mess I make, the better. Me and my parents had dinner, each plate costing about $1.50 USD, so freaking cheap. It was really nice to get out.

I befriended two girls here. One is from Australia and the other is from Italy. We hung out part of the day today. Their parents came with them and are so nice as well. The Australian girl is leaving back home tomorrow and the Italian girl still has ways to go before she leaves. I am leaving the day after tomorrow. I'm excited to be going back home. I'm just not looking forward to the long flight. But oh well. I have meds that can knock me out most of the trip, lol.

Til next time...
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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Dee Marshall

Waiting with bated breath to hear you got home safe! Not sure I'll ever follow in your footsteps, but you do make it tempting.
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
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SorchaC

Seems like you've managed your way through very nicely :)

Nice of Suporn to give you the photo's and go through them with you, I am sure he;s done an excellent job and all will heal perfectly. Hope the flight home is a good one and then you finish recovering in your own bed.

Wonderful thread, Thanks for sharing your experiences :)

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Sorcha  ;D
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Dee Walker on February 26, 2015, 10:44:16 AM
Waiting with bated breath to hear you got home safe! Not sure I'll ever follow in your footsteps, but you do make it tempting.

You can do it! :)
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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JenJen2011

Quote from: SorchaC on February 26, 2015, 01:26:43 PM
Seems like you've managed your way through very nicely :)

Nice of Suporn to give you the photo's and go through them with you, I am sure he;s done an excellent job and all will heal perfectly. Hope the flight home is a good one and then you finish recovering in your own bed.

Wonderful thread, Thanks for sharing your experiences :)

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D

Thank you for engaging with me throughout this experience! :)
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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AnonyMs

Quote from: JenJen2011 on February 26, 2015, 08:50:42 AM
As far as my recovery, everything is looking good down there, especially after the revision. It seems as though many girls get a revision before leaving back home. There were 2 girls at the clinic today getting a revision. Dr. Suporn is a perfectionist.
That's one of the things I find most interesting about Dr Suporn. You're there a long time, so there's time to fix things. And people report that he's a perfectionist. I makes me wonder what happens with SRS where people go home after a week or two. On the other hand maybe due to Dr Suporns technique there's more that needs fixing?

Now your nearing the end of your stay I'm really curious how you find the entire experience compared to your expectations before arriving?


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JenJen2011

Post-op Day 24:

I want to take this time to talk about the good and the bad about this experience so far. Most things I say in this post I've already mentioned earlier so I guess we could call this a summary of my experience in Thailand.

THE GOOD:

Dr. Suporn and the clinic staff - They are simply amazing. The aftercare is simply amazing. The first night out of surgery, a clinic staff stayed with me to ensure I was ok. I received daily visits from the doctor himself for the first 7 days. He would come in, take a look, and advise me on what to do and what will happen next. After I was discharged and sent to the hotel, I received daily visits from the clinic staff. Not one day went by without a visit. They come in, take a look, take your blood pressure, ask you questions, check your meds, I could ask them questions about any concerns, and they wrote everything down. They would report back to Dr. Suporn daily regarding each visit. I was given the clinic staff cell phone numbers. I could call them whenever I needed something.

Apart from daily visits from the clinic staff, I visited Dr. Suporn twice a week for a check-up. Any concerns are quickly taken care of. They give you a month+ worth of supplies. It is all included in the SRS fee. Also included is breakfast, transportation to and from the clinic, hospital, and airport. The amount of medical supplies is unbelievable. And every time I ran out of something, they would stock me back up. So, the aftercare and attention is priceless. And I'm not the only patient. Dr. Suporn has about 15-20 girls in the area at the same time. So it really is amazing.

Long stay/Revisions - Dr. Suporn requires that his patients stay for at least 24 days after the operation. Most doctors will discharge you within a few days and you are on your own. Dr. Suporn wants to make sure that any major complications (or minor for that matter) are taken care of before you go back home.  This is certainly a plus. We're talking about major surgery and a hard recovery so things are bound to go wrong sometimes. I, for example, had a revision done and I'm very glad now that I was able to get it done because things look much neater, tighter, and better down there. Dr. Suporn wants to make sure your vulva looks the best it can look before you leave.

The "community" - When you arrive to Thailand, you are the freshman. You will see other freshman and you will see veterans, so to speak. There are about 15-20 girls in the same hotel at any given time. The great thing is you will build friendships with the other gals during your stay. The meeting point is usually at the breakfast buffet, the terrace on the 3rd floor, and also at the clinic. It's pretty much inevitable to make friends. Veterans will tell you what to expect and then when you are about to leave Thailand, you will be a veteran and tell the freshmen what to expect and the cycle continues. Even if you are quiet and/or shy, there are those that will say hi to you and get a conversation started. It's a really nice experience to go through and to have that bond with others going through the same thing is great. It also helps to make the days go by a little quicker.

THE SO-SO:

Recovery - This really is YMMV but for my experience, recovery has been so-so. I've had my good days and my bad days. I can say though that I've had mainly good days. The recovery is brutal though. It is not to be taken lightly. You will feel pain and you will feel discomfort. But on the other hand, there will be days where you may not feel any pain or discomfort at all. In the beginning, you may see lots of blood/discharge but towards the end it lessens and lessens. Overall, it's not that bad. You just have to always think positive, have some sort of faith, and stay strong. If I can do it, so can you.

The Hotel - The Chon Inter Hotel is not a 5-star hotel. But it's a good enough hotel to recover in. Plus, it is walking distance from the clinic. You get daily housekeeping which I guess is normal for every hotel. There was one day where the water was shut off/damaged and being worked on in my room, so they had to transfer me to another room in order to shower. It was a little inconvenient but I was at least taken care of in that regard. The power went out 3 times but came back within minutes. DO NOT drink the tap water! The housekeeper that usually cleans my room is super sweet and does a very good job and they know why you are here so they leave you extra toilet paper which is good, lol. Breakfast is included and is really the only good food in the hotel, IMO. For lunch and dinner, I would not eat at the hotel. It is both expensive and not tastefully good, IMO.

THE BAD:

Hospital Stay - I was planning on putting this under so-so but I changed my mind, lol. The first 7 days are brutal. You have to stay in the hospital for 7 days but you have to stay in bed for 5 days. That was probably the worse experience in my life. I was in a lot of pain and discomfort and not being able to get up at all for 5 whole days was not fun. Also, being connected to an IV and have a drainage and catheter made it even more uncomfortable. The beds are hard. So, really, expect to cry the first 5 days, haha just kidding. I don't want to scare anyone but it was just a horrible experience for me. Now, having said that, the hospital staff check on you like every 30 minutes. You have a buzzer whenever you need something. They give you pain medication. They check your BP, pulse, temperature. They sponge bathe you in bed the first 5 days. They help you walk and shower on the 6th and 7th day. So, that alleviates things a little. However, I hated it when they would walk in at 10pm to check on my vitals and I was sound asleep. After they would leave, I couldn't go back to sleep! Oh, and their English is very limited as well. And their food kinda sucks, IMO. So, overall, bad experience for me.

Foreign Country - Unless you frequent Thailand or you live in Thailand or you know how to speak Thai, being in Thailand for 30 days can be a bit much. In other words, it may be hard for you to get use to certain things, like their food, their culture, dealing with currency exchange, finding your way out in the street, etc. Sure, Thailand has beautiful weather (well, depends because they have a rainy season) but Chon Buri itself, is not that exciting. There's just not much to see here. When you think of Bangkok, you think temples, beaches, scenery, etc. But there's practically none of that close by to the hotel or clinic. Also, communication is a mess, IMO. Even the hotel staff speak very limited English. And if you speak another language other than English, I think you will be even more screwed. The clinic staff speak English very well and they will you help and guide you with whatever you need. But once you step out into the street, no one speaks English. The simple things you do back home, aren't so simple in Thailand.

Long Trip - Long flight. Do I need say more? My flight is about 1 day worth, 18 hours on a plane and 2 hours for layover, plus any possible delays. Coming to Thailand wasn't a big deal. But going back home only 25 days post-op will more than likely be uncomfortable. However, getting my SRS overcomes this. But I'll talk more about the flight back home after the fact.


Well folks, that's all I can think of as of right now. Tomorrow I will get a final visit from the clinic staff in the morning and will be leaving to the airport in the afternoon. If you have any questions about my experience, don't hesitate to ask.  :)

Til next time....



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JenJen2011

Quote from: AnonyMs on February 26, 2015, 09:30:49 PM
That's one of the things I find most interesting about Dr Suporn. You're there a long time, so there's time to fix things. And people report that he's a perfectionist. I makes me wonder what happens with SRS where people go home after a week or two. On the other hand maybe due to Dr Suporns technique there's more that needs fixing?

Now your nearing the end of your stay I'm really curious how you find the entire experience compared to your expectations before arriving?

Haha, it's funny you asked this while I was typing the good and the bad about my experience post above. I expected it to be difficult and most things were explained to me prior to coming to Thailand so I pretty much knew what to expect. I wasn't aware though about patients usually needing revisions prior to leaving home. And yes, it is probably due to his technique. So, when I was told I needed a revision, it freaked me out. But now I'm actually very happy I got a revision. Come to find out, there was this one girl who purposely tried to walk as much as possible and smoke and do things contrary to what Dr. Suporn said to do just so that she could get a revision before leaving even though she didn't need it. Sounds ludicrous, right?

My final expectation is that I have a nice looking vagina that works. That was my expectation prior to coming to Thailand. I can't comment on that just yet but we shall see. But so far, so good.  :)
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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Eveline

JenJen, this is a fantastic summary. Thank you!

I hope the trip home is easy on you...
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Eveline on February 26, 2015, 10:47:31 PM
JenJen, this is a fantastic summary. Thank you!

I hope the trip home is easy on you...

Thank you Eveline! By the way, if that's your name, I love it! It's different.
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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Cynobyte

Hope you are happy how your surgery turned out.  Make sure it's all that you want and more.  Always take compliments but you never did this for anyone else, so don't take their criticism! 
May I ask that now that this is done, are you going to admit you are tg, or only admit if found out?  It's nobody else's business unless you want to divulge that info.  You are coming back to the freedom to be a real woman;)  i wish you the best for the future, I expect you to have fun now, but be a good roll model for others that hopefully can live your dream too;)  let us know when you get home, just be careful on your way.  You have the best 2 people to get you home safe!  I commend them for that:)  Hear from ya soon, and we expect monthly updates for a while;)
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Cynobyte on February 27, 2015, 12:16:30 AM
Hope you are happy how your surgery turned out.  Make sure it's all that you want and more.  Always take compliments but you never did this for anyone else, so don't take their criticism! 
May I ask that now that this is done, are you going to admit you are tg, or only admit if found out?  It's nobody else's business unless you want to divulge that info.  You are coming back to the freedom to be a real woman;)  i wish you the best for the future, I expect you to have fun now, but be a good roll model for others that hopefully can live your dream too;)  let us know when you get home, just be careful on your way.  You have the best 2 people to get you home safe!  I commend them for that:)  Hear from ya soon, and we expect monthly updates for a while;)

Thanks Jamie! You are too sweet. And thank you for following my SRS journey  :)

It's funny you ask that question. I was just talking about that with my parents today. You know, I use to be very open and vocal about being a transsexual. In fact, I use to have a YouTube channel where I uploaded vlogs to talk about my transition and also give advice. I had about 3,000 followers before I decided to delete the channel. I realized that once you put something on the Internet, it is VERY difficult to erase, if not impossible. At the time I was vlogging, I was unemployed. After getting back into the workforce, I didn't want to take any chances, so I deleted everything transsexual related that I had online including my YouTube channel.

The only place where I post transsexual related topics is here on Susan's and a private Suporn group on Facebook. Other than that, no where else. Now that I've had SRS, I just plan on living, living my life as a woman. Not that I wasn't before but because my transition wasn't complete, I still had body image issues, anxiety, and a little depression. Now I feel free like you said. I feel like a complete woman now that I've finally had my SRS. I never wore a sign on my head that said "hey, I'm a transsexual" but I did talk about it a lot. I won't ever deny my past but I won't divulge that information anymore unless absolutely necessary which will be in very rare cases I believe. Even though I feel complete now, that doesn't mean that the outside world won't ever "clock me" anymore. But it is what it is and I am what I am. After 10 years of transitioning and being called every word under the sun, I don't let anything get to me anymore. There comes a point where you just don't give a damn!

I'm looking forward to just living and stop worrying about transition. I'll definitely continue to post updates. I know it helps others as others have helped me along the way.

Thank you again Jamie. I'll definitely post an update once I get back to the States. Take care  :)
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Muffinheart

Wonderful recap. As I read your "good, bad...", it surprised me you were in hospital 7 days and five of them in bed. Is that the norm there?
Not trying to dissuade anyone or favor one surgeon or another, but my roomie and I, like everyone at Brassard are in hospital 2 full days, then moved to recovery centre on 3rd day in the morning...so about 48 hours later. That 3rd day you're "encouraged" to be up and around, up for your meals, out in the garden. I was home within 8 days.
I guess it really depends on the difference in surgical technique that determines the whole recovery process. There is no perfect surgeon, each has their benefits. Ultimately we choose based on our comfort and our own homework.

Again, thanks Jen for letting me read if about your experience. If I had written my experience, it would have been dull.
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Muffinheart on February 27, 2015, 04:33:26 AM
Wonderful recap. As I read your "good, bad...", it surprised me you were in hospital 7 days and five of them in bed. Is that the norm there?
Not trying to dissuade anyone or favor one surgeon or another, but my roomie and I, like everyone at Brassard are in hospital 2 full days, then moved to recovery centre on 3rd day in the morning...so about 48 hours later. That 3rd day you're "encouraged" to be up and around, up for your meals, out in the garden. I was home within 8 days.
I guess it really depends on the difference in surgical technique that determines the whole recovery process. There is no perfect surgeon, each has their benefits. Ultimately we choose based on our comfort and our own homework.

Again, thanks Jen for letting me read if about your experience. If I had written my experience, it would have been dull.

Thanks. Yes, that is the norm for Dr. Suporn. It may be the difference in technique. I'm not sure. But I guess there's a reason why each surgeon has their own specific instructions and ways of doing things. I believe I heard Dr. Brassard does up to 6 surgeries a day? Does that sound correct? Dr. Suporn performs 1 surgery a day which I think is better. Six surgeries in one day sounds like a lot and seems like the surgeon would be pooped after patient #3. Or maybe it wasn't Brassard, I don't quite remember.

In the end, every surgeon is different and no two surgeons have the same exact technique or do the same "art". Kind of like hairdressers, lol. They all cut, color, and style hair but do it their own special way. But I'm sure all the popular ones like Suporn and Brassard can provide great result. It boils down to $$$, preference in location, preference in technique, many things actually.

I doubt your experience would've been dull to read. Posting your experience would be very helpful to those seeking SRS and needing help deciding who to go to.  ;)
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Muffinheart

Yeah, no idea how many Brassard does, but I know his clinic has done 1500 in 16 years....so that's only 100 a year on average or 10 a month. I learned that GRS is only 1/3 of what they do there as FFS, BA, VCS, body contouring, lipo makes up the other 2/3. And, I learned, its not only trans folks who go there. Finally, Dr. Maude Belanger is one of the surgeons there as well.

The only reason I went with Brassard, and I know this might be met with eye rolling, but his clinic is only an hour drive. As my surgery was covered 100% by our provincial health plan, $$$ was never a concern. I love that I've been to him twice for routine followup at no charge. Plus it helps, he's cute lol
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Muffinheart on February 27, 2015, 04:58:11 AM
Yeah, no idea how many Brassard does, but I know his clinic has done 1500 in 16 years....so that's only 100 a year on average or 10 a month. I learned that GRS is only 1/3 of what they do there as FFS, BA, VCS, body contouring, lipo makes up the other 2/3. And, I learned, its not only trans folks who go there. Finally, Dr. Maude Belanger is one of the surgeons there as well.

The only reason I went with Brassard, and I know this might be met with eye rolling, but his clinic is only an hour drive. As my surgery was covered 100% by our provincial health plan, $$$ was never a concern. I love that I've been to him twice for routine followup at no charge. Plus it helps, he's cute lol

Is he the only SRS surgeon in Canada? I saw a post from a girl that said she had hers in Canada and said she was the 6th and last patient of the day and that she was told to walk the day after the surgery. That sounded crazy. I thought maybe it was Brassard but she doesn't mention who her surgeon was. Oh, so Brassard does a lot of other things too, nice. Dr. Suporn mainly does SRS but he also does FFS and BA. I think that's about it.

No rolling of the eyes here. If there was a surgeon 1 hour away and SRS was covered by insurance, that would've been very tempting, lol. It's nice that you can visit him whenever issues arise. Travelling back to Thailand for a check-up isn't as easy, lol. I did look at Mcginn for SRS since she is like maybe 2 hours away from me but when I read she requires genital electrolysis, my immediate response was NEXXXT! Haha.
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Muffinheart

As far as I know, his clinic is the only one in Canada.
And, it's highly possible that many surgeries in one day, but keep in mind Dr. Belanger does a lot of the top surgeries (so I heard, just not sure).

Yeah, he did my trachea in 2009, and if I decide to maybe get BA, I'll likely go to him.

Lol @ genital electro.....ummm no thanks lol

Ps. I didn't mean you'd give me eye rolls...just I have a couple fans errrrrrr stalkers who hang on my every word
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tlo4589

Great summary! I'm in the extremely early stages of transition but even reading account like this fills me with hope and excitement. So glad you're recovering well.

Toni x
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