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They called me "she" before I even told them my gender

Started by VaultOfHeaven, February 06, 2015, 05:54:42 AM

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VaultOfHeaven

Does that mean I'm too girly? It doesn't happen all the times, sometimes people would consider me male. But I dont know? When they consider me female I feel very bad and awkward. It was something they wrote on my profile which I can't take down so now it's stuck there. I feel humiliated.
I mean I feel like it won't happen to a guy, it's so stupid.
It makes me feel like I'm not. You know. I hope I have someone to share these kind of thoughts... Its really sad sometimes.
I feel like I'm not as manly as other normal guys, and sometimes I feel like a girl too... But I do know I'm male, I don't know. Does anyone feel the same? I guess it's partly because I was raised as a female? I was expected to be a female?

I'm sad. I want to go through the surgery process but I'm stuck in a country where the knowledge of such things is very vague and my financial plan doesn't allow me to leave the country to do it, I don't even want to ask help from my family, they don't know I'm not female, no one in my surrounding knows. It's such a pathetic thing...
Is there anyone here interested in making friends? Maybe we can talk, I'd like to know someone who experience the same thing as I do...
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Cindy

So sorry to hear this. I think both men and women hate the unfeeling stupid comments when we are mis gendered.

We have to try to be strong, you are a strong man. Keep that in your heart. You are a stronger man than any cismales, because you fight for it?

Please take a hug from one of your sisters who is very proud of her brothers.
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CursedFireDean

Hey man, I can definitely relate. I am 5 months on T right now, and I used to pass 90% of the time but in the past month, that's dropped to 0%. I wish I was exaggerating. I have not been called a guy once in the past month except by my friends who know are also trans and wouldn't slip up with that. My teachers are usually really good about using correct pronouns once I tell them but recently they've been slipping up and using 'she.' It's so painful because the implied meaning there is "you look so much like a girl that even as being introduced male, I only see female." It's been hitting me really hard lately. I've lost all confidence to use the male restrooms, my body image is getting worse, and on top of that nobody seems to be able to tell me why my passing went from nearly 100% to 0% so quickly. Some people have ideas but they're things that shouldn't drop my passing to 0%. It's like I have long hair again. And what makes this worse for me is that by 5 months on T, I should be passing MORE than before, not less! I've already been sensitive because my doctor is refusing to raise my dose and isn't giving me reasons anymore, so when on top of that I'm apparently not changing to be like a guy, it makes me feel like crap. I'm certainly not in the same situation as you, I am on hormones and will hopefully get surgery, but I can definitely relate about feeling like a girl. I've been having friend issues recently that have made me question what I'm doing wrong being friends, and those insecurities are starting to manifest in my hormone insecurities, wondering why I'm not 'man' enough, wondering how im so obviously a girl to other people, wondering what I'm doing wrong. Sometimes it's really hard to pull myself out of those slumps too, building self esteem up is so much harder than dropping it down. I've got days where I can ignore everyone and just rock whatever I want but then there are plenty of days where I feel like crap.

The things that help me the most to feel better are telling myself I'm wrong. I tell myself (whether I believe it or not) that I'm a handsome perfect man the way I am. That adds up, and the more days you do that, then one day it'll be true. "Fake it till you make it" they say, and it works. It's a struggle to get there and everyone has good days and bad days. Do something you really love when you feel down. Eat some ice cream or take a bath or watch your favourite movie. Whatever it is. Just do something that you love. Try to spend time with people who will affirm your identity, who see you as male, especially when you're in these slumps.





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VaultOfHeaven

Thank you guys, I feel better now.
I'm curious, how do you know you're male? When did you realize it, how are you sure?
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LordKAT

Quote from: VaultOfHeaven on February 09, 2015, 10:21:37 PM
Thank you guys, I feel better now.
I'm curious, how do you know you're male? When did you realize it, how are you sure?

I've always known. The surprise was figuring out that other people didn't see me the same way.
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Ayden

Quote from: VaultOfHeaven on February 09, 2015, 10:21:37 PM
Thank you guys, I feel better now.
I'm curious, how do you know you're male? When did you realize it, how are you sure?

I was pretty gender ignorant when I was young. I thought every human being was the same. Like LordKAT I remember having that moment when people told me 'You're a girl!' and being genuinely confused by it. Without going into a novel (I certainly could) I can sum up my feelings like this: I knew when I started living as I saw myself and I no longer felt like I was a caricature of a person. I stopped feeling like I was a puppet miming actions and traits that people said should have been mine. 
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Cindy

I honestly thought that when puberty hit you made a choice. Goddess that was a let down.

Sorry for derailing the thread VoH
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makipu

Most people still refer me as a 'she' even when my ID says male. Even when I didn't know about trans or gender related stuff because I was too busy being overwhelmed by puberty's metamorphosis, I also found it very strange and even funny when people (anyone) told me I was a 'girl'. I knew I was male when I was not accepting the changes puberty gave me but didn't declare it to myself until much later(at the end of puberty when I learned about how it could have been all avoided/fixed)
I am male because I say so and nothing more.
I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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Elis

Sorry about your situation VOH. I knew I was male bcos I went out with a girl and didn't feel like her gf but her bf instead. Before we had a title of a couple I played around with labelling myself as genderqueer, but that didn't fit either. Luckily my gf immediately accepted me as her bf, got to wear mens clothes and be referred too as he and Elis and felt more comfortable. I also don't remember a time were I've ever liked my body or felt right with it.
They/them pronouns preferred.



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VaultOfHeaven

Thank you for sharing your experiences, now I know I'm not alone in this.
I understand what you're saying, it was the same for me too.

I didn't clearly declare that I'm male when I was young, it was something obvious. Probably the same mentality of boys my age.
As I grew up I didn't think my body would be a boundary to my gender expression and that I could be the same as other guys. People would refer me as a female but I didn't mind it much until I grew up more and it started to dawn on me that I'm not.
It was very confusing. I tried hard to prove myself male but would sometimes be unable to believe in it, it doesn't help that I'm surrounded by a community rather new to gender-queer, much less to transsexualism, the possibility that someone could be born physically one gender and is another.
I battled with the idea whether I'm just trying to do this to prove myself, because being male is strong, a lot of females would try to be male as well. Am I one of them? I'm not female, the idea of me being female is sickening. I was very dysphoric.

Is it the case for you? Were any of you unsure, doubtful like me?
And how do you feel about your biological body?
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Cindy

I think we all feel doubt and have body image issues. I'm MtF and identified as female at about 5-7 years old. Struggled for ever until I bit the bullet and got help.

I think you would really benefit from talking to a good gender therapist and start your journey to being the man you are.
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Elis

Quote from: VaultOfHeaven on February 11, 2015, 01:50:49 AM
Thank you for sharing your experiences, now I know I'm not society in this.
I understand what you're saying, it was the same for me too.

I didn't clearly declare that I'm male when I was young, it was something obvious. Probably the same mentality of boys my age.
As I grew up I didn't think my body would be a boundary to my gender expression and that I could be the same as other guys. People would refer me as a female but I didn't mind it much until I grew up more and it started to dawn on me that I'm not.
It was very confusing. I tried hard to prove myself male but would sometimes be unable to believe in it, it doesn't help that I'm surrounded by a community rather new to gender-queer, much less to transsexualism, the possibility that someone could be born physically one gender and is another.
I battled with the idea whether I'm just trying to do this to prove myself, because being male is strong, a lot of females would try to be male as well. Am I one of them? I'm not female, the idea of me being female is sickening. I was very dysphoric.

Is it the case for you? Were any of you unsure, doubtful like me?
And how do you feel about your biological body?

I'm still unsure and have this doubt in my mind that I only think that I'm trans bcos of my upbringing, bcos females aren't as respected in our society or bcos I have a personality disorder. I know that these doubts can't really be true bcos I've never like my body after puberty, though I can't remember how I felt about my body pre puberty or quite how I felt being referred as female.
They/them pronouns preferred.



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makipu

Quote from: VaultOfHeaven on February 11, 2015, 01:50:49 AM
I'm not female, the idea of me being female is sickening. I was very dysphoric.

Is it the case for you? Were any of you unsure, doubtful like me?
And how do you feel about your biological body?

This is exactly me. I am absolutely disgusted that I have female parts. In fact, I don't even feel human because of it but a freak of nature is more like it.
I am male because I say so and nothing more.
I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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VaultOfHeaven

I haven't talked to anyone having the same problem as me, it was a pleasure.
Do you think we can get to know each other more? I'd like to meet others like me pre or postoperative, I want to hear more about your situations and feelings and maybe we can relate. There are things I can't tell others about relating this issue. Message me.

Quote from: Cindy on February 11, 2015, 01:56:24 AM
I think we all feel doubt and have body image issues. I'm MtF and identified as female at about 5-7 years old. Struggled for ever until I bit the bullet and got help.

I think you would really benefit from talking to a good gender therapist and start your journey to being the man you are.

Thank you Cindy, I plan to do that as soon as I can. But yes, it would cost a lot so I need more financial resources for that.
Maybe I can try searching for a transgender, LGBT community in my local area again, it's highly improbable I'd be able to find one though.
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VaultOfHeaven

Okay, I can't PM, how do I talk in private with others on here? I don't want to write my personal accounts on the forum.
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Alexthecat

Quote from: VaultOfHeaven on February 12, 2015, 08:57:27 AM
Okay, I can't PM, how do I talk in private with others on here? I don't want to write my personal accounts on the forum.
Post more then you can PM.

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