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6 weeks and counting (Another Chettawut experience)

Started by SorchaC, February 11, 2015, 07:46:01 PM

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SorchaC

OK folks today I moved up to number 3 dilator exactly 4 weeks since the op. I'm not usually one to swear or use foul language but I did today. It took me 20 minutes to get 4 inches of depth and it wasn't a nice experience but then I had heard more than one story of how bad it was, Maybe that made relaxing a problem. I'm also struggling to get a nice dilation position here at home. I am preparing the spare bedroom as a dilation room in the hope that helps. That's also why my previously mention reflections post is delayed.

Bernadette has banned me from all housework for at least 2 weeks meaning she spent all yesterday doing post trip washing and making a supply of food for the week as she is back in work today and away for the weekend with work. I'm being abandoned  :o :o

The post will be up within 24 hours but for now back to work getting my dilation room ready

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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SorchaC

Reflections on a wonderful month in Bangkok,

One of the most common complaints about going to Thailand with any surgeon is the lack of English spoken and while I agree there isn't allot I never found a time where I couldn't get my point across if I made a bit of an effort. Chett certainly manages to make himself understood and the nurses that visit the hotel are understandable. Noi will try and teach you Thai phrases because Fan and Dan are not as good as the others so the phrases come in handy. While on the subject of English, If you're bringing a friend with you it is advisable that they obtain a card from reception and Chetts place giving the location and address in Thai because very few Thai taxi Drivers have good English and you don't want to miss out on precious visits due to Taxi's getting lost. Chetts drivers know what they are doing and while there won't be a running chat throughout the journey that is probably a good thing considering the way Thai's drive.

THE SURGERY CENTER

Apart from the obvious reason why this is an important part of your stay in Bangkok (The op).  This is also somewhere you'll live for almost 5 days. The biggest concern for me about this is the walk down stairs post op most patients seem to have to do. For me it was about 8 hours after coming out of surgery, I was woken up at 0600 for some checks but then fell back to sleep only to be woken up at 0700 and I was told I needed a morphine shot which was news to me as I had no pain at all. No sooner had they done that and a pulse and BP check than they told me it was time to change rooms. 3 nurses helped me out of bed and to the top of the stairs and Rose the admin lady was stood at the bottom of the stairs to catch me if I fell. The smallest of the nurses Dan was stood a stair below me and with the best will in the world if I'd fallen being about twice her weight and about a foot taller the end result was going to be both of us landing on Rose with a strong possibility of the 2 behind me landing on us all leaving Chett without a nursing team. This is definitely a potential danger that Chett should find a solution to until his planned Hospital is completed and open. Once in your new home you can expect to be mainly left alone. The TV works with mostly Thai channels so bring your own entertainment. You will be given 2 bed baths a day which is probably why you are left naked all the time you're in bed. They will provide a toothbrush and paste twice a day also. The nursing staff are excellent and one of them will sleep either in your room or just outside the door each night you're there. You could get lucky and have 2 of them in your room. The journey back to my hotel was about the most painful experience I had because the car was too small for me to easily get into. This was partly due to the seat being in the wrong position and partly because I was rather tender. Noi fixed that and distracted me with a shoulder and neck massage all the way there. I think Chett should get a mini van with seats in that we could lie on and that would be more comfortable.

THE HOTEL

Overall Bangkok Rama was an adequate location for recovery but a few notes about this for them due there soon. The advertised 80 channels of cable TV isn't operational, Most rooms have had their boxes removed. You can still get Thai Channels but nothing on the list left in the room. The internet will have drop outs in service but overall is quite fast. On a speed test we got 35mbps download and nearly 4mbps upload speed which is faster than we currently have at home. Currently the spa and beauty salon are closed due to ongoing work on the main hotel building. There is a gym but it isn't air conditioned so most people seemed to find having a work out too hard. The pool looks lovely but I cannot say how nice swimming in it was as I never had a go.
The advantage Bangkok Rama has over Dusit Princess is the ability to mix with others in your Soi, The commonly termed Trans Alley. Those travelling alone could find this extremely useful as a way of meeting like minded people who you can share your experience with and maybe later in recovery offer assistance to. If you are looking for a bit of luxury then Dusit Princess wins. Depending upon what you have decided to do for food this could also make a difference as to which hotel you choose. If you plan on cooking your own then Bangkok Rama is the place as you have a kitchen which you can add equipment too. The hotel will hire you a microwave for 2000 Baht a week if you're staying a month but we bought one for 2190 and cheaper ones are available. I will get to food later in the post. The hotel give you for free 2 bottles of drinking water as well as 2 small bottles of soda (Sprite and Coca Cola) per day for free after that you have to purchase your own.

FOOD AND SHOPPING

The nearest station to the Rama is Hua Mak which takes you towards city. There you can join BTS Skytrain to Siam where there are a few rather large and busy Shopping malls. A Taxi to Hua Mak will cost 40-50 Baht depending upon traffic. The nearest BTS station is On Nut which will also take you to Siam or if you're feeling really adventurous Chattachuk where the weekend market is and if you haggle many bargains await. A taxi to On Nut is about 90 Baht. Tesco Lotus stock allot of goods but if you're stocking a kitchen in one shopping trip it could be worth spending the 60-70 Baht taxi fare each way and visit Seacon Square which is near Dusit Princess. You'' find most things anybody could want and a few things you likely won't want.

For food. Tesco Lotus offer most food needed to make a meal but they seem rather slow at re stocking the shelves so items may not be available when you want them. They do however have ready to cook meals made fresh each day that cost 1-=20 Baht each and can easily be heated up in a microwave. Then we have the food available around the hotel. The hotel restaurant will offer room service but the price quoted in the room menu doesn't include service charge and tax (17%) and a 20% delivery fee unless you can negotiate with them to deliver free as you're a Chett patient unable to leave your room. I know some have done this successfully. There is every kind of street food available all along Pattanakarn Road but I was warned off trying it by Bernadette who grew up in Sri Lanka and learnt to not trust most food cooked. There are a number of restaurants close by mostly catering to locals which looked pretty unappealing in my opinion. Cleanliness was an issue for me as food seemed to be left uncovered leaving me concerned about hygiene. Across Pattanakarn Road the newly opened London Street complex boasts 2 Japanese, A Thai and Korean Restaurant. We tried the Korean and the food was wholesome if not spectacular but the English spoken was really poor so you have to be confident to order. The menu does contain English translations of the names which is a help. I also enjoyed the Thai place. They do better with English but both places have friendly staff who are attentive. Again you have English translations on the menu. What I found odd about London Street was it is a building made on the outside to resemble the UK Houses of Parliament and has a replica London Bus and taxi but no English type food outlet. Maybe that's planed for a future expansion. Near Tesco Lotus is a 24 hour KFC and further along the road is a McDonalds for those not wanting local cusine.

Well folks I could write more but Susan may ban me for posting a huge post so I'll stop here. Please ask any questions you want but if I've said something you disagree with please be nice, These are my personal opinions not based on any loyalty or favour and I may like different things to you or others.

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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SarahSchilling

Thanks for the information, Sorcha.

I'm glad everything went well for you!

The trip down the stairs sounds rather interesting lol....especially on morphine. :P
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SorchaC

Quote from: SarahSchilling on April 28, 2015, 11:46:49 PM
Thanks for the information, Sorcha.

I'm glad everything went well for you!

The trip down the stairs sounds rather interesting lol....especially on morphine. :P


Pleasure Sarah  ;D I decided I was safer if they all let go of me and I held the hand rail so I made them all move once i had the rail and wa on the 2nd top stair. Slow walk one step at a time then let them grab you at the bottom. I've heard from one girl she woke up downstairs but she was very slender so maybe they walk you if they don't fancy carrying you or don't think they could cary you.. Some unlucky girls have to walk to their cottage on the way back from the clinic if the buggy is busy, I got a lift but was very uncomfortable

Good luck for your surgery Sarah

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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SarahSchilling

Thanks! I wonder if they'll carry me. I'm pretty slender (5'9'' 125 lbs).

Everything of mine has been approved and my surgeries paid for so I'm just in waiting mode for another month! lol
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SorchaC

Quote from: SarahSchilling on April 29, 2015, 12:18:40 AM

Everything of mine has been approved and my surgeries paid for so I'm just in waiting mode for another month! lol


It will soon pass and then you'll be a postie :)

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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Julia-Madrid

Hey Sorcha

Thanks so much for your nice long "practicalities" email.  It will definitely help me, no doubt.

How are you evolving since getting home?

Hugs
Julia
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SorchaC

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on April 29, 2015, 01:54:02 AM

Thanks so much for your nice long "practicalities" email.  It will definitely help me, no doubt.

How are you evolving since getting home?


It's a pleasure Julia,

I am settling in at home although I miss the attention and the friends I made in Bangkok  :) I am finding dilation to be a struggle when number 3 comes out the case. I think Chett gave me one that soaks up the lube and expands  ;D I have managed to get it to 5.5 inches but then I couldn't walk for 10 minutes  :o

Overall I think my progress is good, I have an appointment to see my GP on Monday and as she's had a few patients go through the operation she will have a good idea how I am progressing. I will report on that on Monday.

Hope you are doing well in your preparations?

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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Julia-Madrid

Hi Sorcha

That's reasonable progress then for you :D 

I'm progressing nicely... The Soul Source dilators are on their way (I'm being an optimist ha ha); and the only things still to do are get my second recommendation letter and a couple of medical tests.  Ah, and the visa - what a pain that you need one if the visit exceeds 30 days, which mine does by a couple of days!

Hugs
Julia
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SorchaC

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on April 29, 2015, 09:33:02 AM

I'm progressing nicely... The Soul Source dilators are on their way (I'm being an optimist ha ha); and the only things still to do are get my second recommendation letter and a couple of medical tests.  Ah, and the visa - what a pain that you need one if the visit exceeds 30 days, which mine does by a couple of days!


I think getting the 2nd letter from Home works out cheaper for most people, 9500 Baht is rather allot of money for a short trip to a psyche.  :)

The visa is a complication I'd sooner have not had but having it made entry to Bangkok allot easier. Most people arriving don't have a visa so the visa on arrival queue is longer than the one for people with visa's and they don't take long to obtain. I'd also strongly advise that you don't hang around when getting off the plane. Depending upon your airline and the time of arrival the fewer people that are ahead of you from your flight the better. As I was walking from the plane I saw a Thai Airways A380 opening the doors and thought I best get a hurry on that thing has over 400 seats. Poor Bernadette said she had to almost fly to keep up with me  ;D

You'll love it once you get there because then you can relax, if you've forgotten anything it can be bought there, Apart from that once you've seen Chett and got your instructions for bowel cleaning you have 3 full days to do whatever you want  ;D

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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SorchaC

Ok then folks I have reached 3 months and thought I should post an update and let you all know how I found the recovery since my last post.

Well the first and probably only issue I faced was lube. I found the lubes on offer here to be a bit too watery, I had followed a few threads on here where folks discussed lube and tried 3 I found in the local Chemist Warehouse, I even tried the Sweet Almond Oil I used for massage as that was mentioned on here as well. While they all worked I wasn't finding dilation a pleasant experience at all. Undeterred I contacted Som and explained I was struggling and didn't really feel able to move on to number 4 as Dr Chett said I should be at the start of my 9th week. I received a message from Chett excusing me from moving up until I am ready but also informing me that Thai Post Office won't ship Q-C as it's a gel. He said KY Jelly which I tried but to no avail. Number 1 and 2 were ok but 3 was hard and I was by this time viewing number 4 as a scary vagina breaking accident I didn't want to have. I found a supplier of Q-C in Singapore who used a courier to ship me 10kgs or 117 tubes of Q-C without any issues. First go at using number 4 and I got full depth with very little pain so I viewed it all as a success. My recommendation to all those going there is take samples of the lube with you so that you can decide before heading home if you can do it with what's available locally. it is not just a case of stopping potential pain but also economics. Q-C can be bought from Chett for 60 baht (AU$2.25) a 50g tube. KY Jelly here is $5 for 50g tube and $8.95 an 84g tube. If I'd paid Qantas $122 for 5kgs of excess luggage and bought 59 tubes from Chett It would still have worked out cheaper ($4.31) per tube than buying KY locally. I actually only had 28kgs of luggage and as I flew business class as did Bernadette we could have brought Chetts entire stock home without any excess charges  ;D

All my stitches fell out in about week 7 but as I never bled at any point since my op I can only assume that I was healed enough at this point. Not sure why they all fell out overnight, I thought here we go I will suffer now but thankfully I never. Just shows the skill Chett has I suppose.

Dilation has become pretty much a pest, I am not having any issues with the dilation just the frequency, As I'm not currently working I have the time for it but it does get repetitive. I decided that while I have the time to devote I should as it will help my healing to use the time. I have a couple of friends who have suffered from missing out on dilations so I would advise all who can to stick to the routine where possible.

Just as a 3 months present I believe or maybe it was a thank you for being nice and taking care from my vagina  ;D I managed quite by accident (I insist)  ;D ;D to orgasm a few days back. Thankfully I was all alone at the time or I'd have been slightly embarrassed by it all. It wasn't earth shattering and I hope it gets better with healing but it does prove that Chett put everything in the right places and also means I've passed the final test to making the whole surgical outcome successful.

I do need a small revision but that will happen when I can get there to have it done, (fingers crossed for November) Overall I am extremely pleased with what Chett did and how well I've recovered. The sitting pain was the last thing to go but it did by week 10 unless I sat in the wrong position but then I should have known better.

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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treeLB

Really glad to hear you are doing so well..and holly crap you had an orgasm already? I'm still hurting so bad  I have not been able to imagine having any kind of pleasure down there but you give me hope!
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AnonyMs

Quote from: SorchaC on July 01, 2015, 09:49:59 PM
I found a supplier of Q-C in Singapore who used a courier to ship me 10kgs or 117 tubes of Q-C without any issues. First go at using number 4 and I got full depth with very little pain so I viewed it all as a success.
Hi Sorcha, could you post a link to the supplier so others can find it.
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Laura_7

You could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190515.msg1697107.html#msg1697107
concerning douche some docs say its not necessary...

and here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,68720.msg463356.html#msg463356
I then got from a health food store a probioitic designed for the vagina and is inserted into the vagina.  It will fix the vagina flora. You'll get some discharge after from the pill dissolving, and you'll use it for a few days, laying down and inserting it at night.
That pill made a huge difference. I smell and taste amazing. I feel healthier down there and all over. I self-lube better. And I haven't had any re-occurring yeast infections or BV.  I swear by this product! I've read on other forms about it, which other people also swear by -- I've read stories of women having problems for 10 years and taking a vaginal probiotic stopped it.


quite a few people dilate with pure organic coconut oil, it has antiviral properties... and some say it helps with keeping tissue soft...
and many people use the probiotic pessaries...

just talk it through with your doc...

hugs
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AnonyMs

Quote from: Laura_7 on July 02, 2015, 10:00:12 AM
quite a few people dilate with pure organic coconut oil, it has antiviral properties... and some say it helps with keeping tissue soft...
I thought you're not supposed to use that kind of thing in the early days after surgery?

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Laura_7

Quote from: AnonyMs on July 02, 2015, 10:34:19 AM
I thought you're not supposed to use that kind of thing in the early days after surgery?
Docs have different specifications... often they specify for the first days or weeks after surgery...
afterwards some people ask med personnel close to their home, if possible aquainted with tg issues, as in the first link above...
"My gynecologist who is experienced with transgenders with srs instructed me to use neosporin, coconut oil to dilate, and cicaplast as well as vitamin E oil/serum. So far my healing is going phenomenally faster than I ever imagined."

There are quite a few others who also use coconut oil... as said, they say it softens the tissue...


well 3 months imo is quite a few days from surgery...

as said, talk it all through with your doc...
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SorchaC

Quote from: AnonyMs on July 02, 2015, 09:25:59 AM

Hi Sorcha, could you post a link to the supplier so others can find it.


I am not sure if I'm allowed to post a link because it would be advertising but I'll risk breaking a rule and name the company, Rehab Mart is their name. If anyone wants a link they can pm me and I'll be glad to give them the nice lady's name :)

Thanks Laura for the info, I am not sure what my GP would make of the products mentioned but I can ask. Last time she inspected me she told me "Whatever you're doing to protect the wound, Keep doing it because it looks great" I should have a 3 month check up as well and may do that next week. I will ask her to also check the flora and internal healing. Chett doesn't need a photo until 6 months post op and from viewing my timeline of recovery photo's I can see why he says that as I am still pretty red in parts down there so allot more healing has to be done.

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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SorchaC

Quote from: treeLB on July 01, 2015, 10:59:57 PM

Really glad to hear you are doing so well..and holly crap you had an orgasm already? I'm still hurting so bad  I have not been able to imagine having any kind of pleasure down there but you give me hope!


Hi Tree :)

You know where i am if you need me and I am really sure you have gotten through the worst of it all now. Things will start improving and you'll see just how amazing what you have is  ;D

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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Katekate

If you are still looking for lube in Australia, try this place https://www.paralogic.com.au/lubricating-jelly/

Is the same as the QC stuff
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SorchaC

Quote from: Katekate on December 29, 2015, 03:10:47 PM

If you are still looking for lube in Australia, try this place https://www.paralogic.com.au/lubricating-jelly/

Is the same as the QC stuff


Thank you  :) I may give it a try, I have a pretty large supply of Q-C from my last trip to Bangkok when I bought 150 tubes and put them in my luggage ;D I am going back next year and have an even bigger luggage allowance this time so will hopefully get more  ;D

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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