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Started by Siobhan, March 01, 2015, 03:32:57 AM

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Siobhan

Hello,

i've been wanting to transition for the last 20 years, but I'm utterly terrified of the consequences that it may have on my life.  I'm 40 years old and I know if I don't take the steps necessary, it will be too late.  I'm 40 now and it's now or never.

There are many issues that would hinder me coming out as a woman.  I'm a successful business person and I think that I wouldn't be accepted in my current field.  I'm 6'5" with a thick frame that would additionally make it nearly impossible to pass.  Regardless of these issues, I think I may throw caution to the wind and go for it anyway.

I've been married for 14 years to a wonderful woman who is my best friend.  I know that if I take this step I will lose her which is another reason to not go forward.  She would never understand.  I love her but I'm not physically attracted to women anymore, (we haven't had sex in years).  I find myself attracted to men, but I know the odds are against a relationship with all the issues I'd be facing. 

I'd just like to talk to others that may have been in my situation.  I have no one that I can talk to right now, short of seeing a gender therapist.  Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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Ms Grace

Hey Siobhan

Welcome to Susan's  :)  Great to have you here - looking forward to seeing you around the forum.

Just to let you know, age and height need not be a barrier to transition - for example I'm 6'3" and started to transition at age 47. We have at least one lady here who is also 6'5". That's not to say transition is easy, it has many bumps - you mentioned your wife which may well be one of those bumps but again need not be. Being honest with yourself and having the right expectations and an understanding of the process is the best place to start, and seeing a gender counsellor or other therapist to discuss these issues can help a lot.

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Siobhan

Thanks for the advise, Grace.

I know that there are huge obstacles to overcome, but I think I'm nearing the decision to go forward with at least seeing a therapist.  Being able to talk to others that have more experience will certainly help me make the right decision whether to go forward with transitioning.  I know age really isn't a huge decision factor, but if I choose to go forward I'd like to do it sooner than later.  The most challenging thought is how I'd look as a woman.  I simply wish I had a smaller frame that would allow me to shop for great clothes and shoes, (I'd be like 6'8" in heels LOL).  If I go for it, I want to live it all the way.
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suzifrommd

Hugs, Sioban.

All the issues you are concerned about are real. I'll try to deal with them one by one:

Quote from: Siobhan on March 01, 2015, 03:32:57 AM
I'm a successful business person and I think that I wouldn't be accepted in my current field.

There's a strong risk here. There are indeed people who are forced to leave careers because of transition. There are also people who no longer have any taste for their old career after seeing life from the female angle.

If you decide you need to transition, this is a risk you have to assess. Can you balance your need to transition against the loss of your career? Are there other careers that are possible, do you have a financial cushion while you get yourself established in some other work situation? I was told when I transitioned that I had to be prepared to lose my career. Luckily I didn't (in part due to strong anti-discrimination laws in my corner of Maryland), but it was definitely something I had to be prepared to do.

Quote from: Siobhan on March 01, 2015, 03:32:57 AM
I'm 6'5" with a thick frame that would additionally make it nearly impossible to pass.

A non-problem. Passability is pleasant, but unnecessary. I know many trans women who don't pass but who are thrilled with their transitions. Some of them have heights in your range. When you meet them you can tell they celebrate daily (as we all do) their opportunity to walk the earth as their true selves without the pressure of passing, of honing the fine details of our presentation so no one can tell our past by looking at us.

Quote from: Siobhan on March 01, 2015, 03:32:57 AM
I've been married for 14 years to a wonderful woman who is my best friend.  I know that if I take this step I will lose her which is another reason to not go forward.  She would never understand.  I love her but I'm not physically attracted to women anymore, (we haven't had sex in years).  I find myself attracted to men, but I know the odds are against a relationship with all the issues I'd be facing. 

I'm not going to pretend that this is a small issue. I lost a 20 year marriage and I'm still getting over the loss. However I'd ask you several questions: (1) Should you hang onto your spouse despite your lack of interest or would it be better for both of you actually to BE best friends and each find someone where there is mutual attraction? (2) Are you really a soulmate with someone if they don't understand who you really are? (3) Do you want to spend the rest of the only life you will ever have pretending to be someone you're not for another person who doesn't even know you're doing that for her?

Hugs Sioban. I've been where you are. A lot of us have. The good news is you have a whole community here to help in whatever way we can.

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Muffinheart

Quote from: Siobhan on March 01, 2015, 03:32:57 AM
I'm a successful business person and I think that I wouldn't be accepted in my current field. 

I've been married for 14 years to a wonderful woman who is my best friend.  I love her but I'm not physically attracted to women anymore, (we haven't had sex in years).  I find myself attracted to men, but I know the odds are against a relationship with all the issues I'd be facing. 

I'd just like to talk to others that may have been in my situation.  I have no one that I can talk to right now, short of seeing a gender therapist.  Any advice would be appreciated.

I feel your pain, and reminds me of my decision to begin transition. Like you, I was in a field that was 99% male dominated. Women just don't make it to the top tier of that profession and I fretted over whether I'd lose respect from those people. Unfortunate, but made my decision to walk away.
Do I feel that same way today? Yes.

I think the biggest thing I felt when I left my ex wife was regret. I wish I had been honest wih her. I feel I robbed her of a future together. It's a coin flip as to whether an ex spouse will support you or not. Mine did not, but, I think in time she'll come around. Some will say I was selfish to put my needs ahead of our family. I did what I had to do.and like you, I lost attraction and physical desire for my ex. I'm currently engaged to a wonderful guy. So I get that.

As for therapist, yes! I saw a gender therapist for about six months. Where I live, therapy is absolutely essential if you want to go on hormones. You require a reference to an endo. Putting aside hormones, the therapy was wonderful. I got in touch with feelings about myself that I didn't know existed. We opened doors in my mind about childhood that had long been closed. Therapy saved me, and started me on my path to a healthy future.

I wish you good luck!
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JoanneB

Boy does this all sound very familiar, except I'm only 6ft, or was. Technically you can say I was 52 when I started transitioning. To me "Transition" is simply "To Change". I got to the point in my life when I knew I needed to do something about how I WAS NOT dealing with being TG. I relied heavily on my 3D's, Diversions, Distractions, and Denial, to keep my mind off my only one hope, wish, dream in my life, to be a woman. The same dream I can remember since the age of 4-5. At the very least I knew I needed to stop keeping Joanne deeply buried. I was merely playing a role expected of me, not being the real me. I needed to become one whole, healthy and happy person. I needed to embrace that side of me, not bury it.

Five to six years I still am not sure about a full social transition. My career is too much fun and would be at great risk. My wife.... well, supportive since I haven't killed myself yet. No a big fan of the physical changes to date from the HRT. Loves my joy and love of life and how much I have grown as a person. And in this backwoods armpit just 3 miles from NYC we both fear for our personal safety and the safety of our property if I become the neighborhood "Freak".

Gender expression is a big aspect of who I am. It is not the biggest. Other aspects which I define myself are also fairly important to me. Luckily I am not a member of the Transition or Die club, nor thanks to the GD hit a really really low point in my life (almost there 6 years ago) where "Transition is just another word for nothing left to loose".

I also know that without putting in all the hard work to grow as a person, finding a fantastic TG support group, going to therapy for the first time ever to primarily help loose the ton of baggage from Shame and Guilt I carried and learn new ways or use new tools to help manage my life, I would not have been able to achieve my life long dream of being seen as and accepted as a woman.

I knew the work was needed by me. Twice in my early 20's I experimented with transitioning. Twice they ended with me opting to try to a "Normal(ish)" male. I know in my heart if I forced myself to go through with transitioning, I'd likely be dead today. I was ill prepared for it emotionally. I had options.

Ignoring the problem does not make it go away. Burying the problem in my case was the same as burying me. I became a lifeless, soulless thing that woke up every morning doing what "He" needed/expected to be doing.  I live in more fear of becoming that person again, then the potential consequences of a full transition. I know for sure going back to that I WILL loose my wife. My job will explode once again. I'll be yet another statistic, some 60 y/o engineer out of work and not that super hero problem solver I have been most of my life.

I hope my Super-Hero status will come in handy when/if the time does come I Need to transition.
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Rachel

Hi Siobhan,

I am 52, been seeing a gender therapist for 25 months and on HRT for 21 months.

I am 6'3".

Wives sometimes understand being trans. Depending on the your need to align, many wives have a point that they can no longer support. 
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Siobhan

Thanks everyone for the kind words,

I had a chat with my wife about my potential transition.  She didn't take it well.  She called me a ->-bleeped-<-got and told me that she wished that she had never met me.  It's been a tough week.  I can only imagine what is coming up next.  On the plus side, I have an appointment with a gender therapist.  Only time will tell whether everything works out.

Kisses,
Siobhan
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Ms Grace

I know your wife is confused and upset but there's no call for her to say those kind of things.  :-\

When she calms down things might improve but you may need to work at it pretty darned hard if you want to keep the marriage.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Siobhan

It's a terrible situation.  I was married young.  She always wanted kids.  I'm 9 years younger, and she's been suspicious that I'd leave her for a younger woman.  I can't even imagine telling her that I'm attracted to men.   So confused, so depressed.
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Julia-Madrid

Siobhan, it's a complex case of analysing risks and payoffs.  Suzi's post is exceptionally relevant, and I think you can see from Grace that height and age are not necessarily the obstacles you might perceive them to be.

I'm 46, though HRT and a little bit of genetic luck have helped.  But I can honestly understand what it's like to be married and yet attracted to men.  It was a constant background problem during my marriage.  I just got to a point where I needed to be totally honest and free myself from so many self-imposed restrictions.

Take time with your therapist to know yourself.  Try to avoid having your relationship degenerate into a daily war of words.

Good luck - you've got friends here.
Julia
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