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To share my feelings or keep them a secret?

Started by Amy85, March 04, 2015, 04:34:41 AM

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Amy85


So my position right now is I am just starting therapy with the hopes of sorting out my feelings and finding a plan, either to be a man and deal with those feelings or to get over my fears and take steps to transition in some way. I honestly don't know which I will end up doing but I am wrestling with a thought right now. Should I sit down with my girlfriend and explain everything?

Even if I decide to stay a man there are problems like depression and sexual issues and I feel like I owe her some honesty as we are getting past the early relationship stage. We've been together about 3.5 months now and there is talk (not too serious, but still) of moving in together some day and she is showing me off to her family. She deserves to know what's wrong with me if she is investing this kind of time in me, right? She says she values honesty very highly and that just makes me feel guilty for hiding this secret. I told her I started therapy and she said I didn't have to talk to her about it but if she knew what it was about, that it had the potential to affect her (us) so deeply, wouldn't she want to be told?

And on the other hand what if I actually decided to go on HRT and transition? Logic says that I will almost certainly lose her and so that weighs in when I make my decision. Should I not tell her and see how she feels about it so I know exactly what the outcome is of each choice? What if I decide to be a man and keep this part of me secret but the wall holding those feelings back breaks 5 or 10 years into a relationship, wouldn't she be rightly pissed at me wasting so much of her time by hiding our incompatibility?

Did anyone else face this kind of choice when deciding whether or not to transition? What did you do or wish you had done?
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AnonyMs

I believe you should disclose this.

The worst is not that you'll lose your girlfriend. Its that you won't, you'll get married and have children, then you'll need to transition and it will come out and you lose everything, and have to live with the guilt.

If you lose your girlfriend you'll have another chance with someone else who can accept the real you and have a chance at a happy life no matter what happens. And perhaps you won't lose her, and have a stronger relationship for it.

There's been lots of discussions on this sort of thing in the forums in the past. It would be worth trying to find some of them.
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alexbb

tell her now. if you hide this from her for 10 years till you're married, your life will be much worse, youll be trapped, and when she does find out, youll have wasted 10 of her young years. shed have a legit reason to want to destroy you. this seems to happen again and again in the mtf accounts i read; marriage as a way to 'be a real man' or hide or fit in or whatever, which then leads to decades of denial and depression and eventually ugly divorce from a poor woman whos just had her life wrecked. there is absolutely nothing romantic whatsoever about using a woman as a beard, ie a cover.
i do know someone whos bf is transitioning tho and she seems very happy; you never know she might be secretly queer and thus thrilled about the prospect. in any case tell her asap.

TracyCakes

Amy... I am really new to this forum.  This place is amazing and I am still exploring all the great perspectives people share.  However, being trans is not a one size fits all circumstance.  we can all learn from each other but our journeys are all really unique and personal.       

So I don't know if my thoughts will help but it sounds like I (and probably thousands of others here) was in your shoes almost 20 years ago and decided to say nothing at the time.  I am now 47, been married for 18 incredible years with a son in HS and a daughter going into Jr. HS.  I'm out now 3+ years to my wife who after getting over the immediate shock and disappointment in my dishonesty, she has been incredibly accepting and understanding with my VERY gradual transition. We go out frequently as girls and have established a great social life outside of the home with many new friends.  She may not accept me going full time because she does not see herself living life as a lesbian.  On the other hand, she also does not see ourselves living apart either.  Simply stated, we are both transitioning which is a process that I am coming to understand is constantly evolving and probably never really ends.     

Had I revealed this before marriage, we most likely would not have gotten married.  But we both agree that the past 18 years have been amazing and we were blessed with two incredible kids that never would have happened.  Even with all that said, should I have been honest twenty years ago, probably yes.  My decision was incredibly selfish, but twenty years ago the world was a different place and FEAR is an incredibly powerful force that can lead to really bad and hurtful decisions.   For us, this is working for now. 

I hope your counselor is great and really understands trans issues because that is probably just as important as any other part of your transition.  I think as you continue to explore and evolve as a person you will know when the right time is for you to disclose. 

(Forgive me if i posted this twice as i am just getting used to the forum)
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ChiGirl

Tell her.  Tell her.  Tell her.  I so wish that I had been able to tell my wife when we were dating.  I was in such deep denial, I refused.  She even gave me an opportunity by asking me if I might be gay.  Now, 15 years later, I've destroyed her world and all she can think of the lies.  Please tell her.  It'll be hard, but in the long run, it'll be better off for both of you.
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Jerri

Hi Amy,
me thinking I had control I choose to ignore my feelings and develop a relationship with my ex-wife without being honest or open with her, after 25 years living in lies and deception my truth needed to be heard for me to continue living. she has been very clear about how not being told before we made commitments really impacted her when I did get to that point in my life.
I guess long story short is that if I could go back in time, I would have rather been more honest and open about who is me, as you can see from the description ex-wife the result
mostly though back in the late 60's and early 70's I did not have the courage to face the truth let alone tell it.
this is my and only my story, you need to make your own and do what is right is right for you.
there are just as many people whom are working out the details of, and live in harmony.
I have no regrets and we do not get any do overs. get as much advise as you can from experts, people with experience, and others who may just want to help.
this is a very hard responce to write and there is no right answer that I can give you, it only reflects what my choices did for me

my best regards
Jerri
one day, one step, with grace it will be forward today
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Jessica Merriman

I would verify with a therapist the best course of action for you to follow and then when you are SURE tell your SO. :)
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Amy85

Thanks for your replies everyone. I guess that feeling I had that I should talk to her about everything was right :P I just need to decide whether or not to wait and talk to my therapist first or do it before then so I can discuss how it went with her. I can only afford a session every other week so I want to make the most of them :P

But my nerves are acting up just thinking about talking to my girlfriend about all this... It won't be easy :/
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JoanneB

I tried all 4 or so combinations. From the SO's viewpoint of course they would like to know or have known ahead of time. It is the right thing. No question about that in my mind. There is also no question in my mind about the rationale not to disclose. Shame, guilt and fear. You just want to be normal. You desire being with a woman. Women desire being with a guy. It is a big chance with low odds of success. In one instance for me there was success. But as wedding date pressures mounted, so the reality of being of being married to and having children with "a freak", albeit just the occasional cross-dressing "Freak" at that point in my life. But with a history of a LOT more, and then some.

My wife / gf of some 30+ years had known from Day 1, of that history, of my cross-dressing need, seen me dressed etc.. Yet, dropping the T-Bomb a few years back was devastating. "If Only I Knew....." Well... I felt the same. I thought I had this being trans thing mostly beat.

How well you survive whatever happens depends a lot on how comfortable you have become being what you are. The longer the relationship is, the more painful a breakup can be. I know I have a lot of guilt about being trans when it comes to my wife. Our ships are tied together. She did not sign on for this. In some ways I am dragging her along since her health issues leaves her with few options. Actually leaves US with few options, as she places my happiness, safety, health and security above her own as I do hers.

Just over five years ago when I told her what was going on in my life, I wasn't in much of a different place then you are today. I just attended my third ever support group meeting. By then I knew absolutely that I needed to be there. That also signaled that the time was rapidly approaching "Too Late" to tell her what was going on. What I told her then is almost the same as I did just last weekend. "I haven't a clue". The only thing that is clear to me today is that I need to go back to part-timing, as I was able to when I was working & living out of state. (Which I was eventually doing before) When? How soon? Well, not today. It isn't practical. Bigger fish to fry right now.
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alexbb

"There is also no question in my mind about the rationale not to disclose. Shame, guilt and fear. You just want to be normal. You desire being with a woman. Women desire being with a guy. It is a big chance with low odds of success."

i think these preconceptions are outdated to the point of being totally invalid for young western people today. 1/10000 males are transgendered. it is normal. women do not desire to be with men if theyre gay. chances of success with success defined as the wife/gf loving the idea of transition are maybe slim, although not unheard of.

but why live a compromised life? living part time while at the same time clinging onto a marriage because breakups are painful seems like a strategy that will guarantee heartache for life for both parties. pulling a rotten tooth might be painful but its a lot less bad than an abscess.
there will always be bigger fish to fry, projects, duties, responsibilities, but are they really bigger? i think not. this is the biggest thing in our lives. get it fixed tho and it frees up a huge amount of mental real estate which can then be devoted to other things. living a fertive life as a part-time crossdresser seems the worst of both worlds to be honest.

it amounts to building  prison for yourself, and demanding a woman you 'love' forms one of the bars. i would hazard if you love someone you put their needs first, which in this case seems to be letting her know the full facts and make up her mind, and not cling to her like a proxy mother figure. to make what im saying even more confusing it seems unmanly. weak.

im not (just) blowharding; i put my money where my mouth is on this front and im glad i did, if you tell EVERYONE, prioritising the nearest and dearest and then in successive circles to include literally everyone, its like youre not alone anymore. you dont have a big secret weighing you down like a millstone. youre not trying to push against the river. it feels beautiful. a lot of people are like ha no way its a joke thats so fking bizarre for about a day, then are like, huh, you know what, it suits you, good for you, i respect this, and you seem much happier i like this you better, never go back.

the above poster's referring to being transgendered as a beast, to be alternately fought and negotiated with, reminded me of this line from Jacobs Ladder

Eckhart saw Hell too. He said: The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.

Let go. Let her go. if you do it diplomatically, with love, once the dust has settled and she has moved on your ex could very well become one of your closest allies. she might even be bi and be delighted to discover this new you. and you will be free to live without any guilt or shame. then the sunlit uplands await.


Amy85

I finally managed to tell her everything this past weekend. I made a separate thread about it so go here if you want to read about how it went. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,184827.msg1643195.html#msg1643195
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