Social etiquette advice for transitioners (Not being serious; or am I?)

[Jill F]

Also, when going to a movie, NEVER sit right next to your male friend.  There must always be a space between you and them.  [emoji13]

Or at a bar...  This is how we know you're not a very confident heterosexual. LOL! 

Seriously, my wife and I love to sit at the bar to eat at our favorite BBQ restaurant.  We've known the bartenders for years and they know very well how we want our food cooked.   Why is it that almost every time we walk in, there are guys on every other stool?  Every. Other. Stool.   Many of them are "together", making it all the more ridiculous.   

One time this happened:

My wife to surly guy: "Hi, is it possible could you move over one?"
Surly guy: "*grunt, mumble* I like it here."

We move over to the next guy.

Wife: "Hi, could you possibly move over one so we could sit together?"
Douchenozzle with ZZ Top/Hipster beard: "*with mouth full* Be done in a few minutes.  Just sit around me."

So we did and annoyed him with loud girly stuff until he promptly left.

Bartender (female): "Didn't you know it's a-hole night tonight?  All a-holes get watered down drinks from 8 to close."

[cindy16]

So we did and annoyed him with loud girly stuff until he promptly left.
Bartender (female): "Didn't you know it's a-hole night tonight?  All a-holes get watered down drinks from 8 to close."

[LoriLorenz]

Doesn`t bathroom heckling include derisive looks at the other guys junk?

[Jill F]

Doesn`t bathroom heckling include derisive looks at the other guys junk?

It's frowned upon, but it happens, especially when there's alcohol involved.  I've seen a guy get decked for it. 

Also, at sausagefest-type rock concerts (read: metal), the men's room gets awfully crowded and sinks get used as toilets far too often.  Pro tip: squirt some soap on your hand and wash up in a drinking fountain.

[cindy16]

Doesn`t bathroom heckling include derisive looks at the other guys junk?

Nope, looking is taboo. But with people you know, derisive comments are usually enough.

[VikingArchangel]

Guys are never, under any circumstances, required to remember a friend's birthday. To do so must be met with ridicule and punching.

[Devlyn]

It's frowned upon, but it happens, especially when there's alcohol involved.  I've seen a guy get decked for it. 

Also, at sausagefest-type rock concerts (read: metal), the men's room gets awfully crowded and sinks get used as toilets far too often.  Pro tip: squirt some soap on your hand and wash up in a drinking fountain.

Pro tip: Bring bottled water. DO NOT DRINK FROM THE FOUNTAIN!

[cindianna_jones]

Also, guys never wrap presents. They either pay someone to do it for them or they just give their mate the object in its original packaging.  Hey, we need to focus on the gals too!

As far as guy talk in the bathroom... it's best to just keep your mouth shut. Men don't talk much in there. The Ladies room is quite the opposite. A woman you've never met who would never say anything if you ran into her on the sidewalk will start talking about family, shopping, the show, whatever. Instantly, you are her best friend, that is until you leave the restroom.

Cindi

[mm]

so true, Cindi, guys say nothing unless they know each other and then is it usually about sports.   Guys look straight ahead at the urinal and try to leave as much space between each other.  Usually the separators between urinal make it hard to see what the guy next to is doing.  I have seen these urinals without separators and even open gutters at some sports parks where you could everyone if you were to look down the line.  I don't use urinal yet no confident yet to use one.

[immortal gypsy]

As far as guy talk in the bathroom... it's best to just keep your mouth shut. Men don't talk much in there.

Except during sports events. A drunk conversation will happen in the men's bathrooms, it can be ongoing and flows but the people who started it would of left long after you have probably walked in. Oh and it's usually held fairly loud

[antonia]

When someone gives a complement to a guy it's customary to play it down and act like it's no big deal.
When somone complements a girl she's just supposed to smile and say thank you.

[Eva Marie]

When someone gives a complement to a guy it's customary to play it down and act like it's no big deal.
When somone complements a girl she's just supposed to smile and say thank you.

Yep I did the guy thing the first couple of times a woman complimented me on something because it took me totally by surprise and I wasn't thinking and I never had that happen in guy mode before. Needless to say I got some very confused reactions after doing that; now it's a thank you and then try to compliment the other woman about something in response.

Another thing is the handshake when you meet another woman - a woman's handshake is more of an extended arm limp wrist non shake thing so avoid the vigorous firm handshake that men do. I did that too for a few times until I figured out not to do it lol....

[kira21 ♡♡♡]

social etiquette lesson for f2m...

Now you are presenting as male, you can enjoy eating a banana in front of men without being stared at, leared at, feeling embarrassed or even thinking about people imaginging you giving oral. Long gone are the times that you had to bite and chew when nobody was looking.

May your future be fruitful.

[MugwortPsychonaut]

The whole guys-don't-talk-in-the-bathroom thing was all the more fodder for me to do so. Sometimes I would (and still do) get urinary anxiety. If so, I would pee in a stall. Not in the toilet, per se, just in the stall.

When I would spot another guy who was obviously having a hard time taking a wee wee, I would usually give him a hard time for it. And ESPECIALLY if a guy was taking a dump and grunting loudly.

Ummm so yeah mine differ slightly...Skateboard harder, play guitar harder, work harder. Keep being tough, but do it in a skirt :p Don't take $#!t from anyone and keep smiling. Lipstick recommended for all of the above, but not required :p

Ain't nobody gonna say a damn thing to a t-girl skating a five-flat-five double set! I recommend short cut-off jeans, a tank top, and purple lipstick.

And how come we have to live on opposite coasts?!

[JustASeq]

Ain't nobody gonna say a damn thing to a t-girl skating a five-flat-five double set! I recommend short cut-off jeans, a tank top, and purple lipstick.

And how come we have to live on opposite coasts?!

What's crazy is guys have the worst compliments when they give them. Here's some I've gotten at the skatepark...

"I like your shirt."                    **stares at boobs**
"I like your hair."                     **stares at boobs**
"That was an awesome line." **stares at boobs**

And yes, the separation of girl skaters is one of the unfair parts of life. Come to Cali, skate all year :p

[Beth Andrea]

How do you heckle guys in the restroom? make fun of their junk? Their technique?  Just curious...

If someone (anyone) is in a stall and you're peeing...if theyre...ummm..."gaseous"...be sure to comment "jeez that was an a$$-ripper, Fred...real chem warfare sh!t!!"

A few seconds later (depending on the response of the unlucky dude in the stall) "oh sh?t you're not Fred!! Damn guy, you should try out for the tuba section!"

Or whatever comes to mind. Be inventive and most of all, CRUDE.