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Started by lemons, April 03, 2015, 04:48:56 PM

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lemons

Like I said before, general frame size.  I have a large frame.  I have a big head and a big wide ribcage, even though it doesn't measure as such, as well as lack of hips.  I hope that FFS can make my head look a little smaller with jaw reduction and forehead as I've seen in some before and afters...it's just too massive as it is right now, but I'm not getting my hopes up it will ever look in normal ranges for a tall cis woman.
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Mariah

All your other numbers are equal if not smaller than the rest of us. My ribcage at it's widest point is 37. Your starting at a 36. The lack of hips can be dealt with a few ways which many of them don't require surgery. Secondly, there are many woman out there that don't have very big hips. You actually have some great numbers to start out with. In many ways your very petite already.
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Quote from: lemons on April 04, 2015, 10:03:10 AM
Like I said before, general frame size.  I have a large frame.  I have a big head and a big wide ribcage, even though it doesn't measure as such, as well as lack of hips.  I hope that FFS can make my head look a little smaller with jaw reduction and forehead as I've seen in some before and afters...it's just too massive as it is right now, but I'm not getting my hopes up it will ever look in normal ranges for a tall cis woman.
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Miyuki

Quote from: lemons on April 04, 2015, 10:03:10 AM
Like I said before, general frame size.  I have a large frame.  I have a big head and a big wide ribcage, even though it doesn't measure as such, as well as lack of hips.  I hope that FFS can make my head look a little smaller with jaw reduction and forehead as I've seen in some before and afters...it's just too massive as it is right now, but I'm not getting my hopes up it will ever look in normal ranges for a tall cis woman.

Do you really believe that these things will keep you from passing, even knowing that there are lot's of other transgender girls, and even some cisgender girls, who pass as female just fine despite having similar issues?
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Newgirl Dani

Hi lemons,

On the surface this may seem contrary to what can be taken from many of these posts e.g. dressing slightly different etc..  What I find for myself to work, for lack of any other term I call it 'disarming', and can be done even if the method does not match how you really feel inside.

In my transition I began a slow evolution of how I presented to others.  This change involved a slow pushing of the envelope, but not too fast, it was and is more about an evolution of allowing myself to take further and further risks.  Rather than focus on how 'others' were percieving me, I concentrated of becoming comfortable with each new development.  As I slowly began to see happiness in my smile due to my sense of accomplishment, it turned into confidence.

This turned out to be even bigger than how my style of dress etc. was changing, people would notice the authentic look on my face first which had a big disarming effect and sort of short circuited further critical examination.  For me this had an incredible feed back loop type of result:  their smile increased my confidence which made my smile more genuine.....and so on.

Risk changed to YEAH!  There are those rare people who will not allow their intolerance to be self examined, so when this happens, I say to myself:  "Hmmmm, they are just not happy, but I am!"  The smile gets bigger  ;D.   Dani
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lemons

Quote from: Mariah2014 on April 04, 2015, 10:09:54 AM
All your other numbers are equal if not smaller than the rest of us. My ribcage at it's widest point is 37. Your starting at a 36. The lack of hips can be dealt with a few ways which many of them don't require surgery. Secondly, there are many woman out there that don't have very big hips. You actually have some great numbers to start out with. In many ways your very petite already.
Mariah

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Starting out?
I've been on HRT for 3 years.  Did you not read the OP?
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Mariah

Lemons, I missed the three year part, but still my point still stands that your frame isn't an issue. I'm sorry that you feel that is and I can understand that, but many trans and CIS woman have a bigger ripcage than you have. We call come in different shapes and sizes. Good luck
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lemons

Honestly biggest issue comes down to my head size which is just enormous.  It looks way too big to be read as female.
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Mariah

Is it possible for you to give us a closer and less blurry shot of your head. It might help us give you more personalized recommendations.
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kelly_aus

Quote from: lemons on April 04, 2015, 02:48:20 PM
Honestly biggest issue comes down to my head size which is just enormous.  It looks way too big to be read as female.

Walking around with these kinds of thoughts in your head don't help.. I'm 5'7 with a similar sized head but it's not something I even think about until I see threads like this. You've got the looks, you just need some confidence and a positive attitude to go with it.

I know, I know, so many here will decry the idea that a positive attitude and confidence are any help in passing. But, you know what, it does help.
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Squircle

Absolute honesty: I don't see anything that makes you unpassable in those picks. Yeah you are bigger than the average woman but in no way outside normal ranges. It will just keep getting better as well; people often seem to think that most changes are done after 2/3 years but I often think that trans women who transitioned a fair time ago tend to grow into their looks a bit more.
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Mariah

#30
The shape and size of your face are not bad at all. So much so that I would definitely say pass in the second pick even with your current hair length, but you don't look bad in either pick.
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Zoetrope

Hun you are gorgeous - and no, I'm not being kind.

We are all odd-shaped in our own ways. Cis or non-cis!

Don't beat yourself up over it. In fact, it is the quirks we dislike in ourselves that others so often find intriguing and appealing!

For example, I like a boy with a big roman nose, a twisted smile, and bushy eyebrows.

Somebody is going to go wild over you. I guarantee it.
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ImagineKate

Second pic passes for me.
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lemons

Quote from: SarahBoo on April 04, 2015, 07:23:14 PM
Hun you are gorgeous - and no, I'm not being kind.

We are all odd-shaped in our own ways. Cis or non-cis!

Don't beat yourself up over it. In fact, it is the quirks we dislike in ourselves that others so often find intriguing and appealing!

For example, I like a boy with a big roman nose, a twisted smile, and bushy eyebrows.

Somebody is going to go wild over you. I guarantee it.

I really don't care about being pretty.  I mean I do, but it doesn't worry me.  I just wanna pass for female.  I could be the plainest looking woman ever and if I could simply blend in I'd be satisfied.

Quote from: ImagineKate on April 04, 2015, 10:12:31 PM
Second pic passes for me.

lol the one where you can see I have a giant cinderblock head?
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ImagineKate


Quote from: lemons on April 04, 2015, 10:42:38 PM
lol the one where you can see I have a giant cinderblock head?

No the one where I can see your feminine shoulders and your boobs.
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April_TO

Hi Lemon,

First of all I just want to acknowledge that as a transwoman myself, I know how it feels when you are out in public trying to pass. It's mentally and physically exhausting.

However, I must tell you that you are presenting yourself quite well as a woman and I think what's missing if I may say it is your confidence.

You have to own your truth and weaknesses. It starts with owning that you are a transwoman and there's indeed some biological/physiological differences. However, it doesn't make you less of a woman. You have to own your womanhood and when you start living your life inside the context of "I am a woman" no one can question that because you simply are a woman.

In my own experience, I've been on dates recently and ever since I took on this approach not even a second glance was given. I am just a woman dating a guy period. Although, all of the guys I dated knew I was trans but I was treated no less than a cis woman period.

Work on your confidence babe, you are beautiful.

Love,

April
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Zoetrope

The point I'm trying to make is that, if you are looking to the outside world for validation, that is the wrong place!

This must come from within. It doesn't matter what you are seeking validation for - being gendered female, being a good person, being a success, whatever. We all have personal standards that we hope to meet.

When you have validation within, nothing can stop you.
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Lady Smith

Lemons, I'll add my voice in saying that you look beautifully femme in your photos.  The farming district where I live was originally colonised by Norwegians and Dutch immigrants and I can tell you that some of the local women around here are bigger in both height and bone structure than me and I'm 5ft 11".  I'd like to be a fly on the wall looking on should anybody be stupid enough to tell them that they aren't women.
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Serena

Hi lemons, I completely understand you I'm a big headed girl myself (23 inches), but it really helps making yourshoulders appear smaller by comparison... Also, you might wanna try waist training with a corset, it's hard to do, but it might help for the waist problem. Good luck girl <3 For anything please message me, also wearing long hair helps cover the fact that your head looks too big in comparison to your body... I hope ffs can help us both with reductions, I have a big head and i'm 165 cm or 5'5'' so it's even more noticeable in my opinion. Again the girls here gave you a lot of great tips! I think that you can become very passable, and have you been on hrt? PM for anything really! And Good luck with your transition and everything!
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Emily E

Hi Lemons :)  Your head and body look proportionate to me   I totally understand the big head part (5'7" with a 24.5 inch head for me) but it's not an insurmountable problem, most cis girls with big heads have had their whole life to come to terms with the size and find ways to cover up little issues like ours and usually use hair to cover up and disguise their head size... you would be amazed how different hair styles will change your look.  I guess my point is don't give up... get some help, see a beautician or wig maker and see what they have to offer that can help (our large heads make it difficult to impossible to buy wigs off the shelf but extensions are available).   I agree with Serena corset training may be the best way for you to reduce the size of your lower rib cage (I may have to do that myself when I get to that point) as it will help you achieve that hourglass shape most cis-women naturally have.
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