difference in meds

[Laurie K]

So this being transition 2.0 ,I have noticed different results from different meds.  On premarin I noticed results almost immediately,  in nipples and breasts and seen fire works upon orgasm. On estrogel the results are much less pronounced, not fireworks no breast /nipple discomfort, and little growth .... may be age and dosage are to blame  but  Im  getting impatient  ..... cup size not yet lol

[ClaireIvene]

Discuss with doctor as we should not give medical advice. I did lots of research on hormones and technically 17 beta-estradiol is the most powerful human estrogen and they do have meds with that exact estrogen it's other title being E2. If a doctor is not available invest lots of time engaging in your own research in the matter.

Good luck!

[Cindy]

I do know this is a common comment.

We don't develop as quick as we wish.

Well girls hit puberty at about 11yrs nowadays and don't finish breast and body development until they are 17-18?

We want our bodies to develop in months.

Good Endo's and medics know this, there are profound risks in going on high dose steroids. Sadly sometimes we just have to be patient.

I do know how hard that is. I really do

[Danalynn]

The largest retail store has estradiol on the $4.00 plan.   Just so you know...

[Laura_7]

Well people are different... its possible your skin is not as permeable, you might talk with your endo about higher doses...
together with implants and shots this method should be best for the liver...
some people take additionally estradiol tablets sublingual (there are uncoated ones)...
you might think about doses a few times a day to get a more steady dose...
and some people add bioidentical progesterone...
you might talk this all through with your endo...

hugs

[Cindy]

I do not want anyone implying self medication thank you

Cindy
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[Amy1988]

So this being transition 2.0 ,I have noticed different results from different meds.  On premarin I noticed results almost immediately,  in nipples and breasts and seen fire works upon orgasm. On estrogel the results are much less pronounced, not fireworks no breast /nipple discomfort, and little growth .... may be age and dosage are to blame  but  Im  getting impatient  ..... cup size not yet lol

I had great results with estrogel.  I switched to pill because the price went up.  Some people have a problem with malabsorption with the gel.

[Ms Grace]

Good Endo's and medics know this, there are profound risks in going on high dose steroids. Sadly sometimes we just have to be patient.

Worth repeating...

[Rachel]

Congratulations in restarting your transition.

I discussed the different medications and delivery methods with my doctor. I am on a different E medication and delivery methods than when I started. So give it some time and discuss it with your doctor.

[Laurie K]

Thanx for the help ladies. My endo is known for starting his patients  an "introductory dosage", so that could be an issue. The good side is that my skin and hair are changing, and my emotions are on a more even keel. I do get a little more emotional at things but crying is better than getting angry .

Could placement of meds be a factor? i was applying to lower inner forearm but since have changed to upper arm near shoulder,  Have endo appoint in about a month 

[Laura_7]

Softer skin should be more effective...
their manual says the whole arm from wrists onward... I read somewhere they shower beforehand to open the pores, and let it dry... and apply the gel with the wrist of the other hand, so not to lose part of the dose because you are supposed to wash your hands afterwards... to avoid gel contact with other people...


hugs

[KayXo]

I personally did best on injections versus orally, sublingually, patches or suppositories of estradiol. To each their own. Find what works best (the dosage and the medium) for YOU with YOUR DOCTOR. Best of luck.

[Laurie K]

Once again thanx for all the responses.  It is  important to me  that I do every thing through a doctor, no self medicating wal-mart concoction for this girl. as bad as we all want quick results, we need to go slow to enjoy fruits of our efforts  We all know that hrt  can be taxing on the body at best of times. So why screw things up and increase the risk. 

[iKate]

I do not want anyone implying self medication thank you

Cindy
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If you mean this:

The largest retail store has estradiol on the $4.00 plan.   Just so you know...

Not to worry, it is available by prescription only. The $4 price is with a prescription.

My dosage at that same big box store costs $10, which is better than $40 at a "real" pharmacy like Walgreen's.

[iKate]

Once again thanx for all the responses.  It is  important to me  that I do every thing through a doctor, no self medicating wal-mart concoction for this girl. as bad as we all want quick results, we need to go slow to enjoy fruits of our efforts  We all know that hrt  can be taxing on the body at best of times. So why screw things up and increase the risk.

Wal-mart will not sell you estradiol, spironolactone or any prescription drugs without a valid prescription and the Wal-mart estradiol is the same as any other pharmacy, same manufacturer and dose. Wal-Mart is a big company and I doubt they would engage in any shady practices like that. It would bring the legal hammer down on them very quickly, especially from the DEA.

However they have the generic prescription drugs discount program whereby they deeply discount most of the commonly used ones. In fact with at least one of them they are less than the co-pay on my insurance plan so I just pay the cash price.

It is very good for people who don't have good insurance and cannot afford to pay full retail price. For example metformin which is used for my diabetes care was $80 at rite-aid, whereas Wal-Mart has it for $4. Cash price, no insurance. And they still make a profit on it which means rite-aid was totally trying to rip me off.

Target and I believe Costco have generic drug discounts too.