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Started by Sunnyboy, April 29, 2015, 11:03:26 PM

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Sunnyboy

Hi,

I'm writing in, my name is Al and I'm FTM.
I'm religious, Christian of some nature.. and I'm moving to an apartment that is owed by a church goer of the church I attend (and have attended for my entire life). It gets me off the streets with an affordable rent and a place to just.. live, but I'm not so sure the good outweighs the bad anymore?

This person is older, has some really incredibly off perspectives of what could be considered the accepted social norm of current society I suppose. I'm moving there because I had assumed I would be able to live there without any issues, landlords aren't meant to discriminate... And then the inexplicable opinions of what the Bible says and what Obama is trying to do with marshal law, and then how the news doesn't give the whole story so you have to watch it all on every station, this and that. Gays being sinners. ETC.

I've not told her I'm transgender, I don't want to. But it's really crushing me, I'm discovering, because everyone in my family and at work.. they've all been so accepting and incredibly spot on with using correct pronouns and name. I'm getting back to that stage of anxiety where I fear I might cause myself some sort of harm (physically or socially, or both), because of statements such as.. 'I won't call you Al because thats a man's name', or 'you look too pretty for a name like that'.

I look physically male, I do. I pass at work, I use the men's bathroom when I don't go to the family bathroom in the back..

How do you use the Bible to fight back when they're going to convict you with the Bible? My religion is important to me, my Pastor is a loving person and is unconcerned with things such as this. As he doesn't condone judging on any level, and he believes it could turn a critical eye to others for their opinions and practices. Which is not what he wants. In my church we're taught to love everyone and not judge, but I guess this person doesn't pull that from our Pastor..

Any advice?
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katrinaw

Al, firstly, I really do not fully understand all the nuances of religion, although I am Christian...

Firstly its real good that you have a base of support... that's so key... I think maybe your Pastor, which I believe you mentioned is understanding and not judging could help, maybe worth a chat... trust me religion or not I know exactly where you are coming from...

Please don't let it become obsessive for you... if you are feeling that way then please see a therapist or counsellor to help you find the right approach.

Good luck

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Sunnyboy

Hey Katy,

It isn't so much that I have a support base.. its more like, they're open minded people that don't mind.. They don't hold any strongly opinionated views on transgender people, to my understanding. They use the right name and pronouns, its just.. they probably wouldn't react to me being discriminated against or anything like that.. I'm actually pretty alone and I'm surprised I've kept myself together for this long. Its been nearly four years now.

I can try my Pastor, but I don't think that sort of discussion is something I want to have with him. But I'll pick his brain I guess.

It's hard not to? I've never been to a therapist or counselor about this, I'm not sure my health care will cover it.. But if I want to progress, I guess I need to at this point..
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Mariah

Hi Al, Welcome to Susan's. I won't be much help in regards to the bible either. I'm familiar with it, but not in the way that would be helpful to you. I'm sure others will be able to help more in that regards. I hope everything works out where your moving. I look forward to seeing you around the site. Good luck and hugs.
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katrinaw

Sorry Al, think I mis-interpreted the comment about work folk and family...

Its probably worth just probing the pastor for how much he is even keeled... you may be very surprised...

As far as being alone and keeping yourself together, I would suggest that professional help would assist, but as I mentioned before, there are awful lot of folks here with the same issues, concerns and situations that you can draw some sort of relief from... It is hard and many of us accept that it could be a very lonely life, but having said that we can define our own outcomes to a degree.

Sometimes just sitting down with someone, face to face, it all becomes clear and you feel recharged to move ahead...

Try and be strong, and I hate to say it, single-minded in pushing yourself forward... I am just coming to that point myself after way too many years of hiding in the shadows.

L Katy  :-*
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King Malachite

Hi, Sunnyboy, welcome to Susans!  :)

I would recommend checking out the Christianity section of this site, as there are a lot of great input there from other Christian to help answer your question.  I would also visit transchristians.org as they are another great resource to help navigate the "Biblical ammo" in support of transgender people.  I'd also recommend you check out AustenLionheart on Youtube as he uploads clips about being transgender and Christian while talking about certain Bible passages that may be used for or against transgender individuals.  Last, but certainly not least, actually definitely first, would be the read the book of John (preferably from the Authorized King James Version) in order to understand the plan of salvation, to which you will find, that will not say anything about being a cisgender persion to obtain the Kingdom.

Good luck on your journey!
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Christianity is a religion of compassion. Any Christian who understands, really understands, what gender dysphoria is and why we need to transition, will feel compassion and not condemn us.

So I think reaching someone who had "religious objections" involves educating on our reality (that we were born this way, that dysphoria is serious and agonizing, etc.) and explaining why the compassionate choice would be to support us in our transitions.

However there are some people who elevate narrow-mindedness to a virtue and refuse to be educated. I'm not sure where that fits into the Christian religion, but such people do exist.
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Cindy

I don't want to derail this into religion. But can I say even though I personally have no religion I have met wonderful people from every major and some minor religions. There are people in every religion who follow the teachings of their Holy Books. And there are those who pervert those teachings.

Good people, no matter their religion, belief, sex, gender, ethnicity are good people. They love their fellow humans and accept them as who they are. They worship their Gods and have strong belief but the basic tenant of every major religion is the same, Love your neighbour as you wish to be loved yourself.

Anyone who doesn't follow that creed, religious or not, has a problem.
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