A purely hypothetical , but possible question on the stealth issue

[stephaniec]

the thing is that the farther I get in my transition the more I realize how beautiful it would of been to transition when this situation first surfaced at 4 years old.

[Ian68]

do you feel there will still be transgender people who will need stealth even though society has granted stealth to all. ( disclaimer: I know I ask too many questions , but I use to be a philosophy major in college and since I've become a senior citizen I'm trying to understand life before natures last call)

I'm also someone who loves philosophy, and I certainly appreciate your desire to develop greater understanding, though don't add that morbid bit, please!

The question is a very good one, and one that I've contemplated a lot.  Part of why I'm pursuing some medical transition now rather than when I was in my early twenties is because I needed that time to gain more self-awareness, and to differentiate between what I want, what I need, what society wants, and what society expects.  Society wants me to be a cisgender women, it expects me to fully medically transition and live stealth, I want to feel comfortable enough to own the body that I have and to still be seen for who I am, but I need to make some changes to my body because ultimately, I cannot make peace with my chest.  All of these are different issues, and I think that it's important to distinguish between them.

When society fully accepts us, there certainly won't be a need to go stealth, but some people will want that because they want to appear and live as fully male or female - they want a cisgender identity.  Even with the stigma removed, I think that there will be a minority of people who will still not own being transgender, because they don't *feel* it.  There also are those of us who do feel it deeply.  If I woke up tomorrow as a cisgender man, I would be more comfortable with my body than I am currently, but I would also feel that it didn't reflect how I feel inside.  Being transgender is a part of many people's identities, and that will also remain when we're accepted. 

The human experience is so incredibly diverse and complex and associative.  It's hard to imagine a world in which that diversity or complexity could ever diminish.

[stephaniec]

I have no intention of being mean or ill willed about that last sentence I wrote . the really of nature is a limited time on earth as it is a limited time for all aspect of every particle in the universe. The sun dies the planets die it's the phenomena as humans we deal with. no intent of morbidity intended. sorry If I triggered you in any way, there was absolutely no intent on doing so. Finality is part of nature.

[Ian68]

I have no intention of being mean or ill willed about that last sentence I wrote . the really of nature is a limited time on earth as it is a limited time for all aspect of every particle in the universe. The sun dies the planets die it's the phenomena as humans we deal with. no intent of morbidity intended. sorry If I triggered you in any way, there was absolutely no intent on doing so. Finality is part of nature.

It wasn't about being mean.  I was complaining because it made me sad to hear you say that of yourself. 

[stephaniec]

sorry,  I'm at a stage in my life that we all progress to where you see more clearly the line crossed in the sand. I just talk that way not out of disrespect to my self but out of an awareness that I want to make the most out of my life with the time nature gives us. I guess you can call it midlife review.

[Ian68]

sorry,  I'm at a stage in my life that we all progress to where you see more clearly the line crossed in the sand. I just talk that way not out of disrespect to my self but out of an awareness that I want to make the most out of my life with the time nature gives us. I guess you can call it midlife review.

That's fair.  I think about my own mortality quite a bit, too.