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My gender (ftm?), my past, chest dysphoria and my boyfriend. Long first post!

Started by EJ, June 27, 2015, 02:29:52 PM

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EJ

Hello everyone!

This is my first time at a forum and reaching out (except my bf), but I'm excited to join the community!

I would like to introduce myself; I'm 20 year old biochemistry student from the Nordic countries. I live with my boyfriend whom I have been together with for nearly 5 years. It has been awesome. ;D My biggest and dearest interest is music, games, movies, reading and being out in nature. Science is also a big one. And cats.

I have been keeping a lot inside, so I hope it will help to write it down.

I'm definitely transgender, and have identified myself as queer of some sort as a teenager. I always felt like I'm not a woman and refused femininity at an early age, I got pressure mostly from my mother and grandmother but I didn't let it get to me. I dislike me being treated as a girl and the expectations of being like a woman/girl. I don't wear make up or feminine clothes and I have a stubborn fear of pink, although it as gotten better. :P

I haven't had contact with any queer community and I have recently realized that I have not had enough information and have had preconceptions about being transsexual, even tough I always have had an interest and felt sympathetic towards trans*. It was confusing to feel like and identify with homosexual men. I wasn't happy with being a woman, but I did not identify with masculine men so I guess I sort of left it there and just lived as me.

Even if I "survived" my teenage years quite neatly, I was and still am overly conscious of my body and also afraid of but determined not to get bullied but still stubbornly be myself. I was polite but closed off, and only let down my guard to a few friends and my siblings. I was confident but also insecure, those insecurities really got to me more than I thought. But it has gotten a lot better growing up and meeting the closest friend I ever had (bf).

The most difficult part for me is dealing with my body, or more specifically my chest. Since I got them I have mostly only wanting to hide them. I wanted a flat chest or at least smaller ones. But yeah, genetics is a bitch and as my female relatives I got HUGE enormous breasts! I'm also kind of thin, so they seem even bigger. Mostly they are troublesome, sometimes they are repulsive and at times OK and kind of nice. The bra I'm wearing is 65J (EU-measurement, in US 30J and UK 30GG).

The thing is, I recently started looking around for means to get rid of them. I never had much hope since I didn't think I could afford it or that it was too vain. I have difficulties with vanity somewhat, maybe by being raised on the countryside, but I am a bit vain so yeah. Anyway, I found out that I met the requirements to get breast reduction paid by the health care in my country. It was such a relief.

I wanted to do it straight away but soon I realized that I not only wanted them to be smaller, I wanted an entirely flat chest. So I did some more research, and my thoughts started leaning towards the trans*. I began reading a lot. I stayed up all night, I had so many questions. I realized that our health care actually could help and pay for transitioning. I watched and read about other trans* and I started questioning myself. I broke down at some point, not knowing how and what to do.

Living with my boyfriend made it troublesome. I had mentioned me feeling like a homosexual man some years ago but he did not want to discussed it much. He generally accepted and loved me as I was, but I knew he might not have reflected much on my gender identity. I also knew he liked my breasts a lot (a bit of a problem sexually, we managed it), so to tell him I wanted to remove them was difficult. But to realize that I was something of the trans* spectra, transgender, genderqueer, genderfluid or transman was both comforting and terrifying.

What was terrifying was thinking all the trouble and attention it would cause to transition. Another big fear was my boyfriends reaction, if he would still be able to love me as a man. So that night I came out to him unintentionally, maybe not in the most graceful and well thought manner. I was too tired to stay up, I cried but stubbornly didn't want to wake him but ended up doing so in the morning. I was in dead fish-mode after crying but managed to try to explain. We talked, it was a great comfort but realized that he had it difficult to understand. He had a more direct view of gender, that a woman feeling to be a man was simply a woman to him.

We handled it together and took care of each other but we have had to separate for some days/a week this last month due to studies and him working in another country. I haven't handled this the best way, I continue to read a lot about this (this forum is great!) and is holding out seeing health care until I am more certain who I am and what I want. I have explored myself more, trying myself in a male manner secretly, playing with the thought. I'm a bit "scientific" in my ways, my bf told me he was worried that I would read too much and have too much of an objective view on myself instead of feeling what is right. It's difficult, I constantly start including others expectations and feelings in my head.

From identifying with a more non-binary view (genderqueer, genderfluid, intergender etc.) at first, I have more and more come to a sense of being transman. It is still a bit scary but I now see how very possible it is. I was so happy when I half a year ago got the courage to get the really short haircut I been wanting, I even wanted it shorter! I realize that I have always somewhat felt that if someone would have mistaken me for a boy, it would have made me happy. The breasts makes it impossible so I haven't tried. The thought of having stubble, a sharper face appeals to me. Maybe I even could start exercising when my breasts aren't in the way making it impossible. I already feel as I behave a bit "manly", but in a more nerdy and calm way. I can be quite loud and adventurous when I feel at ease with the company I'm with.

My dysphoria, mainly with my chest, has gotten worse. I eat and sleep less regularly, but it has been better when I have been busy and with people or when my bf is with me. I want to do something. I'm planning to seek health care and I would like to talk to a good therapist. I'm happy that my bf has said he might want to talk to one as well. I do think I am a man, although it is difficult knowing my past as some sort of woman and the expectation of people from outside. I react even more when referred to as she or female (I used to dislike it before a bit) but I still don't feel quite ready to be called he, even if I like the thought.


Well, I intended to keep this first post brief... :P
I guess I have been keeping a lot inside and needed to get it out, I'm happy to reach out to this community. Please feel free to reply, and thank you for reading!
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Andre87

Welcome to Susan's. I can relate to that "scientific approach" as I'm prone to apply it when analyzing emotional problems.I was student of biochemistry for a year but switched to molecular biology :D ...I'm FTM with a kid(wanted to pass genes)..

We're all different like in general population,with different expectations and needs.
If you consider your boyfriend a family member..if you two passed through good and bad times together and helped eachother..my advice would be to stay with him..have a kid,and AFTER pregnancy talk about testosterone therapy and surgeries...Even if you lose him later,you'll have a child with person who was your soulmate on many levels,you chose the best genes for your child,and you'll love your child even more because of him...

You're free to express masculinity by making your hair shorter,wearing clothes you like etc..just don't mess with hormones now as maybe it can cause epigenetic changes..what if you get baby with autism?You'll wonder whether it's because of testosterone therapy...don't risk.

Make an algorithm in your haid "what if"..path 1.."what if" path 2...all options.
I believe that with careful planning and support of loved ones you can achieve having family,having job and transition..just be patient..it's a long term goal,it takes time..be careful about sweet shortcuts,longer paths are more exhausting and it takes some sacrifice but with hard work you'll reach goal.

In short my advice would be:have kid maybe earlier than you planned,after that go through testosterone therapy and surgeries...
Every man is a star whose light can make shadows dance differently and change our view of landscape permanently***
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EJ

Thank you V M and Andre87!
Haha, I did not expect to meet someone who was into biology this quickly. Nice!  ;)

I see what you mean, patience is the way I been thinking to handle this. Although the increased dysphoria makes it harder... I have been thinking if I got a breast reduction, would it make a later on surgery (when I'm ready to present as fully male or something) more complicated and dangerous? I also wonder if it would be damaging to bind your chest if it has gone through breast reduction... Binding them as they are now would probably not work. I think I will go ask these questions at the top surgery-topic :P

For a year we have been thinking of getting married (matter of time!  :D), but I think even though I'm a bit more into thinking about children my bf thinks it's too early. But we agreed that our combined genetics would be awesome ;) I see your point of transitioning after children, It has been on my mind as well.
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Andre87

I'm blessed with really small breasts..and facial hair(mind this photo..I tried to look Asian in China :D..I have other with full beard).I may have CAH.

About top surgery,yes other guys can give better advice.But if you plan to go through surgeries later,I recommend it after you start with testosterone therapy..
I can only tell you that I had 3 surgeries(not FTM related) and after every general anesthesia I had more problems with memory.My reasoning and solving problems remained unaffected,but my memory is somewhat worse(I notice while studying scientific names for exam...)..So only that's why I would reduce number of necessary surgeries with general anaesthesia.

Every man is a star whose light can make shadows dance differently and change our view of landscape permanently***
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Hi EJ, welcome to Susan's. It's wonderful that you did share it with us. I look forward to seeing you around the forums. Good luck and Hugs
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katrinaw

Welcome to Susan's EJ... good to have you here with us.

Thanks so much for sharing your story with us, it is a tough road transitioning and depending on the persons stamina can be either a short journey or a long one... and of course with some expense, depending on country and insurance coverage's.
Causing issues and problems for others is certainly something that makes it hard for many of us, certainly me, but that does also depend on your own well being, for some there is no way out but forward, others live with what they have and manage as best they can until we just can't run in a split life anymore!

Not sure, but are you seeing a gender therapist?

Look forward seeing you about the forums.

L Katy  :-*
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EJ

Thank you all!

I haven't talked to a gender therapist, but I would like to. I hope I will be able to find one through health care or contact the local LGBT community.
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