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Started by Susan, July 24, 2015, 09:40:27 PM

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Susan

I have updated the donation notice at the top of the site I expect some people will want to complain or bitch about it. This will fall under TOS 2, and I expect it to be handled that way.

This is what I added
QuoteWe missed our goal last month by $500, so if we do not make the goal this month, I will have no choice but to make the ability to post messages on the forums require a subscription. So if you do not want to see that happen please donate. :(

It's not something I want to see happen, but I have no margin left to cover the shortfalls with.

We average 700 members a day online just on the forums, and had 600 new registrations this month. We have 19,381 members. Roughly 211,990 have visited the site so far this month.

I need $2,000 a month to cover costs period. We have a $2,500 goal for the last few months, not cause I am being greedy, but to recoup $1500 that I personally spent buying software and hardware for the site since Jan 1st of this year. Rather than asking for all $1,500 at once I broke it up over 3 months.

If just 700 people got a 5$ per month subscription that's $3,500.  Of that $2,000 will go to cover the expenses. The additional $1,500 will go in the bank to cover shortfalls, and to use for scholarships for people who absolutely are unable to afford even the $5 per month.

Lets be honest the vast majority of us can afford $5 to ensure that this site continues to remain freely and openly available.

We need an additional $1,400 donated to make this month's goal. If we get that I can continue to keep the site open and freely available to all who come here. If not I will be making the change in posting abilities on August 1st.
Susan Larson
Founder
Susan's Place Transgender Resources

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Dee Marshall

Susan, if this has to happen would you consider subscriptions over $5 in multiples of $5 being treated as scholarships for our members who really can't afford it?
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Promethea

Susan,

I'm still new here, so I barely know you and of course you don't know me,  but I hope you can differentiate my intention to have an open, respectful, sincere dialogue from bitching or complaining.

First of all I want to tell you how much I appreciate your work in maintaining this community. I too managed an online community hosted on a home server (as seems to be the case here) for a few years, and I am too familiar with how demanding it is to keep everything running smoothly and having to wake up in the middle of the night to your phone beeping alerting you that something is wrong, as well as the challenges of having to make ends meet. In the case of that community, for reasons not relevant here, we didn't receive donations or any form of payment from members, so it was down to two of the staff members to cover all the costs. One of them was me. So believe me when I say I get it. I really do.

I understand the need to look for different solutions if donations are not enough. And I believe care needs to be taken to ensure this open, safe space of support is maintained alive, but is also maintained safe and open.

My situation is... unusual. I can probably afford $5 a month. I say probably, because now I'm living with a low, variable income, currently in a country where $5 is worth much more than $5. I'm carrying a semi nomadic lifestyle, but because I'm not a "digital nomad" it doesn't take well with banks and credit card companies. So even if I can afford $5 a month, I have no way of getting that money to you. That means that I if the subscription is implemented I will be left out.

I don't want to be left out.

And while my circimstances are unusual, there are other members who, for different reasons, are in a similar situation. First there's our members from countries with weaker economies, or where access to PayPal or electronic means of payment are not widespread. Then there's our young members that are still financially dependant on their unsupportive families. And there's also our married members who are still not out to their spouses and would have to explain what that monthly $5 charge is.

I don't expect you to take the financial burden of the forum. You already take a lot of the non financial burden. But I do believe that a subscription may not be the best solution.

I know ads don't provide a huge income and would be very tricky for a community like ours. I don't want to even think of the ads an ad network would show us with "transsexual" as a keyword. Direct ads, arranged directly with a business as opposed to a network, can be a more desirable alternative, both financially and in regards to quality and relevance. It takes more legwork to implement, though.

There's a website I visit often that is maintained through affiliate links. They're not obtrusive, inserted everywhere. At the bottom of each page there's a small text saying how you can help the owner maintain the site (and his family) by using those links to buy anything, and there's a link to the list of affiliate links. The site is about photography equipment, but you can buy, say, a CD on Amazon through those affiliate links and you're helping.

Another possibility could be to sell merchandise. There's websites like Zazzle, Redbubble and others that make it relatively easy to upload designs and sell t-shirts, cell phone cases, mugs and lots of other things, without having to worry about fulfilling orders. I'm sure there's some artistically inclined members that would be happy to contribute some designs. Heck, since I read your announcement this morning  I'm even considering using my very limited artistic skills, even if I only have an Android tablet to do any work, and set up a trans related store to come up with some donation (not just $5, but whatever I can get, since in my situation I can't cash it out anyway).

I just hope that a combination of some of the above suggestions can work to complement the donations. And also that reading this message helps those who are in a position to donate, but aren't doing it, realise how important that contribution can be to those of us who can't donate.
Life is a dream we wake from.



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Dena

Something I hope you will consider. In the 3 months I have been on this web site I have made donations sufficiently large to cover a year of subscription. I have a personal problem with anything at automatically takes money out of my account because I have seen how hard automatic draws can be to turn off when you no longer want them. Currently I only have one automatic draw on my credit card and that's the local news paper. I would rather pay a year in advance than have the paper hit my card every month. I am personally committed to making 3 or 4 such donations a year but I just made one a bit early to celebrate the voice surgery I just had that Susan's Place made possible.
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Mariah

 :police:
A friendly reminder this policy isn't up for debate or discussion folks. TOS 2 covers how any suggestions or comments in regards to this policy should be handled. Thanks
Mariah
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2. Any attempts to stage protests, dispute the site policies, the TOS/rules, or actions of the staff; in the public areas of this site will not be tolerated and will result in your removal. If you have any issues, contact Susan by email, or forum private message, and not bring these types of issues into the public spaces on this website. For the proper way to handle problems of this nature see item #20 below.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me.
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Jenna Marie

I, too, ran an online blog for years that was well-respected, and the only pay I got was in that respect. I ended up taking the blog down because it was costing me too much (and once got me sued over a comment someone else left), so I sympathize a great deal with the sacrifices you must make to maintain and support a site of this magnitude.

Unfortunately, and this is not a complaint, just a comment, I'm another who cannot make PayPal work - it's a long story involving identity theft that I chose not to prosecute because it was a family member, but PayPal has banned me and I'm unlikely to try less-than-honest means to get around their blacklist. I also agree that people who are not out or trying to keep family members from finding out may find it difficult to set up an automatic subscription to a web site that would reveal their secret... and that seems like it might be a fair percentage of the people who need help the most. But that's neither here nor there; mostly I just wanted to post while I still could, to let you know that when I don't sign up, it's not because I didn't want to or didn't believe the site was worth it.
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Laurette Mohr

 Can one donate via store bought cards or does it have to be one issued by a bank??
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LordKAT

Prepaid will work. The ones from walgreens do anyway.
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Laurette Mohr

Quote from: LordKAT on July 25, 2015, 08:46:42 PM
Prepaid will work. The ones from walgreens do anyway.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!
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AnonyMs

Quote from: LordKAT on July 25, 2015, 08:46:42 PM
Prepaid will work. The ones from walgreens do anyway.
Does anyone know if this kind of thing is available in Australia? Like my username says I like to be anonymous and that's whats been stopping me donating.
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Laurette Mohr

Quote from: AnonyMs on July 26, 2015, 08:22:40 PM
Does anyone know if this kind of thing is available in Australia? Like my username says I like to be anonymous and that's whats been stopping me donating.

Australia has loadngo prepaid Visa cards.
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AnonyMs

Quote from: Laurette Mohr on July 26, 2015, 08:25:32 PM
Australia has loadngo prepaid Visa cards.
Thanks, I'll give it a go.
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LordKAT

You still have to go through the paypal site, you just don't have to make an account.
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AnonyMs

Just as long as I don't have to give my identity to anyone along the way I'm happy.
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Phoenix_2812

In light of this devolpment, I might just consider subscribing when I get some money next. :) For some people, the issue of gender identity is a matter of life and death, literally, so it's important that those people who are in that position are able to have someone they can contact. It's for that reason alone that this forum needs to continue operating, whatever the cost to the members. $5 isn't that much to ask for, although I'm in the UK, so the conversion rate to pounds makes it seem smaller, hence why I am more than happy to subscribe.

Thank you, Susan, for bringing us such a nice forum, may it run for many more years to come. :)

Chris
"When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us." -Helen Keller
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Promethea

Only $130.41 left with four days to go, it's going great!

Thank you to those who are donating to keep the forum open for all of us.
Life is a dream we wake from.



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HoneyStrums

I cut it in half,
And I think that might of made the gaol a lot more achievable.

I too am happy to see the amount left to go droping at a steady pace over the last few days.
Come on people keep it up.
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Susan

Thank you ButterflyVickster, and everyone else who has donated this month.  As a result of your support I do not have to resort to the subscription requirement on the forums. I didn't want to do it, but coming up short two months in a row would not have been doable. I don't have much of a buffer to work with.

Starting on the 1st of August we go back to the $2,000 monthly goal again.
Susan Larson
Founder
Susan's Place Transgender Resources

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Phoenix_2812

That's good to hear, Susan. Although, I'm still going to subscribe when I can. :)

Chris
"When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us." -Helen Keller
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Susan

Correction, looks like this is the last month of the $2,500 goal
Susan Larson
Founder
Susan's Place Transgender Resources

Help support this website and our community by Donating or Subscribing!
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