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wtf: mother-in-law ignored us, then outed "us" to an aunt (rant)

Started by jeni, July 20, 2015, 08:55:27 PM

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jeni

(Seething right now, this is long, I won't be offended if you skim...)

My wife, kids, and I were visiting her extended family last week, the first time we've seen her mother in person since my deciding to transition. We had not talked to her yet, because we wanted to do it in person. My wife also wanted to talk to a few of the closer aunts and cousins, though not to everyone. The idea was to give those people a warning and talk to them about the situation and (hopefully) convince them that this wasn't a big bad deal.

We got as far as kind of talking to her mother. She refused to listen to anything we had to say, and seemed only concerned that we not dare talk to anyone else. We would "ruin their vacation" or something. Very interesting given that she knows literally nothing about the situation except that I am transitioning, and I doubt she has any idea at all what that even means. She ignored my wife's attempts to explain that she supports me fully and is completely happy with these changes, in fact overruling those attempts and declaring that my wife had no idea whether she'd be happy with my "life destroying" choice.

She was otherwise ok, I guess, as in she didn't actually treat me or us any differently than usual. She did apparently have more than one discussion, at one point actually yelling at my wife not to talk to anyone, and that if we did she would go around apologizing so everyone knew we had gone against her wishes. (I was not there for that, which is for the best.)

Weirdness number one was that after we left, she contact my mother to discuss this (after actively refusing the attempts we made to discuss it). It was nominally ok that she did this, as we did tell her that my mom already knew, but it was very strange. Furthermore, from what she said to my mom it was clear that she had no idea what was going on. Even things she'd been told (such as my wife's complete support) she had ignored.

So my wife somehow found the grace to swallow her anger about this sort of end run, and sent a very cordial email, including a fairly detailed (I'm told) explanation of her support and a few other things. It was hard, but we did not want to cause a rift because she did not seem to have an actual problem with me, just that it would turn out badly.

She replied with a frustrating message, essentially blaming my wife for not having told her the things in that email while we were with her (as I said above, we tried very hard and were refused or ignored). She then followed up promising support, not with a very satisfying response, but something. It was enough, since she seemed mainly concerned that the future would be horrible, we knew that she'd just learn she was wrong when it didn't turn out that way.

But no, the story could not end there, could it? It would certainly make my subject line misleading.

My wife got an email from the aunt she most wanted to talk to, whom she very nearly talked to in spite of her mother's requests and intimidation. (Forces of nature intervened literally, so unfortunately it didn't happen.) In it, she mentioned that my mother-in-law had told her about our impending life changes and offering support.

What. The.  :icon_censored:

So after literally yelling at my wife demanding she not talk to anyone, without any actual information about the situation, she took it upon herself to not only out me to someone, but to interfere with my wife's relationship with her aunt. She denied my wife the opportunity to have a deep in-person conversation with someone she cares for, about something profoundly important to her. She may have given the impression that we didn't want to talk to her, or did not consider her close enough to speak with whille we were there. And there is no chance she explained anything accurately because she refused to hear any information, so she is running purely on stereotypes and assumptions.

And that's all ignoring that she outed a still closeted trans person. That's horrible, but honestly I don't care. I could accept it as pure ignorance, but in this case it is secondary to the despicable lack of respect, love, or consideration she is showing for her daughter. I am almost sick to my stomach that she could act in such a hateful way. My wife went wayyy out of her comfort zone to try to make things work, and has been reminded in a painful way why she cannot trust her mother.

I am alternating between seething with rage and sick to my stomach on the border of tears right now. How can a person do that to her daughter? What goes wrong in someone's head to make this seem like an ok way to treat someone?

(And how did her daughter turn out to be such a beautiful, sensitive, caring person?)
-=< Jennifer >=-

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ChiGirl

Wow.  Read the whole thing and all I can think to say is whaaaaaat?  Bizarre.  Family can be great and it can be crazy.  Good luck and hugs!

Charlotte

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HoneyStrums

You dont know how she made your wife? the "beautiful, sensitive, caring person" she is.

Maybe because your wifes mother is like this, your wife saw it wasnt good, and desided to be a better her person.


as far as, her treatment at the visit? blinded by fear maybe? dumbfounded by shock? mentaly paralized with dread? destracted by the thought of a thousand and one negative outcomes?

Or maybe just an attention seeeker trying to go with the flow of wider society, maybe it was posative reactions to this from other people that changed her opinion?

Im sorry, both you and your wife exsperienced this. I hope you feel better soon. And remember, their is still some good in this person, and every makes mistakes.
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jeni

Thanks for the replies.

There is good in her, for sure, but this is not a completely isolated incident. It's the most shocking I've been involved in by a margin, but something needs to change if we are going to be able to continue being in contact.
-=< Jennifer >=-

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Tristyn

Yeah, I know how you feel, Jeni. I too was outted behind my back to people I honestly have no relationship with; my sisters. Its very possible its more people than that I am not even aware of that know I am transsexual. Its really $#&^!@ up but they don't care...In spite of the fact that it is highly discouraged among professionals that supporters or loved ones of a transsexual individual out them. >:(

I think in my case it probably happened because I have(unfortunately) a very gossip-loving family, who do it out of amusement, I think. I mean, the minute my very disapproving father and I left one of my social worker's offices and sat in his car yesterday, he quickly whipped out his phone and was texting for a good twenty minutes or possibly a whole half hour. I really think he was probably talking to one of the sisters I nearly hate due to her financially abusing me that he is even aware of, and yet treats her more like his own child than me(yeah, she had a different dad but the same mom I have). And yeah, I have an even stronger feeling he was telling her all that transpired with the appointment I had with my social worker along with him in there with me about seeking out help for my gender identity problems and transsexualism. But instead of being very grateful that I trusted him enough to listen in on very intimate detail I would never otherwise share with him outside of a professional's office, he goes and broadcasts it to everyone I have zero relationships or bonding with, in secret, stabbing me in the back! What part of, "every word in the social worker's office is confidential and does not leave this room," did he not understand?!

Sorry, Jeni. Now I am ranting. But I wanted to demonstrate to you that you aren't alone in this. I really have no idea why people who are supposed to love us the most do vindictive crap like this. Its sickening, tasteless, and even desperate! And I won't be a part of this family any longer if they keep spreading transphobia like this on their behalf. I would be better off severing our ties and restarting after my resurrection(transition) from the chameleon ashes of the woman I once was yet barely knew and into the man I was never able to be but always knew since time began for me.
Keep fighting for what's yours, Jeni....your identity and anything else that makes you, You. :D

P.S. I absolutely adore your signature. I love the colors in your name(even if I do outwardly now identify with being male, I still like the color pink any way^^) and especially the lil' graphic of your HRT record. That is so neat! ;D That's extremely creative and thoughtful.
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KristinaM



Just a little Southern Inspiration.  I sent that to my mom as well, hehe.
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Tristyn

Quote from: KristinaM on July 21, 2015, 10:05:21 AM


Just a little Southern Inspiration.  I sent that to my mom as well, hehe.

Hahaha! So true...that made my day right there.  ;D But, "Sugarbaker".....that's a funny @#$ last name and so fitting at the same time, in this case obviously.
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MugwortPsychonaut

I'm sorry you have to deal with ass-hats like these. Personally, I don't have time for those kind of people. I think the way I came out to my extended family, was by just showing up at Christmas. I guess being such a happy-go-lucky person, I have a way of disarming people. I showed up, greeted everyone as I saw them, hugged them warmly. "Hi!! I missed you! How are you?! Mmmmmm, yeah! Oh, you didn't hear? Oh, you did? Yes, I'm becoming a girl. Mmmmmmm, I'm so glad to see you!"

It never got weird. Because I was so comfortable with it, everyone else was too, more or less. And with a lot of my family, it quickly felt natural and we slipped right on into girl talk. :)

But back to you. Your lady-wife sounds like a totally awesome person, and your mother-in-law sounds like... let's call her a troubled spirit. In the big picture, she's simply making herself look bad. But I know that doesn't help, when a person's vitriol hurts so much. I'm sure your heart is achy (but not breaky! ;) ). You do have your amazing wife at your side to give you love and support. That's important.
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jeni

Everything will be fine when I do show up post-transition. That's kind of the problem: she is making it not fine because she's afraid it won't be fine. Rahhhh.

My wife is unbelievably awesome, and I am fortunate to have her as a partner through this transition. She is very excited about this, but at the beginning was very cautious to even let me know that lest I feel pressured into anything. I really could not have asked for more.

Things are perhaps improving a bit with my MiL over the last week, but I think things will permanently be scarred. Thanks for the comments.
-=< Jennifer >=-

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