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Started by ikanote, July 25, 2015, 12:40:14 PM

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ikanote

I finally came out on Facebook and my friends were very supportive. Now, I tried to ask them if there is any change on me and all of them said... "It's hard to say.. I've seen you and you always look the same." at work people give weird glares and i tell my friends they ask me why?. I came to the conclusion that it is useless asking my friends about my facial changes.. My mother and brother are.the worst too because they just say I see you everyday so you look normal. So I wanted to get on opinion on my face from people that don't know how I look.. It's really embarrassing but I just wanted some feedback on my progress.. I feel like freaking girl inside so I know my judgement has been completely altered.. As much as that's all I care about.. I sometimes get very dysphoria when I look at face.. I just want to know what part of my face makes me look masculine? I don't wear makeup because I am so colorblind there's really no point...that and I just feel dysphoric when I wear makeup. My brother said my beard and mustache is my worst enemy.. But I remember before hrt my facial bones were really pointy and my chin was the part I hated with a passion. I have put so much love into my hair that I think covers my extremely large forehead quite well until the breeze kicks in. Also I am almos pretty much 3 months of hrt as of today :3


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Dena

I like the face and I suspect you are still pre HRT or haven't been on it very long. Yes the hair on you face needs to go. As for makeup, you have pretty clear skin so you don't really need to cover much up. I don't know of you are selective color blind or total color blind but I think that can be worked with. You need to make an appointment with an expert in makeup and explain your vision restrictions. They can select a color palette with enough contrast that you will be able to apply makeup correctly. Take it from somebody who can see color, it will greatly improve you image to have some color around the eye area. In my makeup, I use a gold color and an earthy purple around the eye with brown brow power because of my hair color. These three colors are separated and have enough contrast that you could tell the difference to apply them even if you were totally color blind.
Do not consider surgery at this time because I think that face can be made to appear feminine with that beautiful head of hair you have.
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ikanote

I am red/green color blind :/ red and green are crucial in skin tone. I have enough color palettes everywhere since I draw a lot, I rather not deal with makeup. I am 3 months in hrt.... I don't think hrt or my hair can feminize my face though. My looks are from my.dad's side of the family, and they have very masculine faces.. Even the girls have bony faces.. I just wondered what specific is what kills my face.. Its fine I guess.. I'll wait a year to see what problem stands out
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Dena

What is killing your face is your eye. We look at are face for so long looking at the male that we don't see the female. I have seen faces very much like your on young women before the hormones put the finishing touches on them. I even recall a few young girls in movies that faces much like you. You jaw is a little on the strong side but not as strong as mine. You have a long face like mine but you wisely have a shorter, full hair cut that round the face and covers the forehead. As I said, hormones make very small but noticeable changes. I took hormones for months and then one day I looked in the mirror and I saw my mother staring back at me. For a moment it was a bit uncomfortable but thats when I noticed the changes the hormones had made to my face.
I am not saying your face will be extremely attractive but I think once you are done, it will gender female from a photos.

Green is not normally much of a problem in makeup but red is. I would like you to have some blush on your cheeks but that isn't going to happen unless we can figure out a way to control the application. Normally with blush, I apply it and use a kleenex to remove the extra blush but that is all by eye. Your formal and informal makeup may consist of a base with power to finish it. That you can apply by feel and use a kleenex to even it out and eye makeup. Stay away from blush and lipstick unless you have somebody to apply it for you. This is more of a natural look and unless somebody looks close, they may assume you are not wearing makeup, but every little bit helps in this game.
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iKate

The facial hair needs to go. It's a big problem for me too. Your face actually looks good but the upper lip shadow spoils it for me.

Profile for MTF is always going to be hard without FFS.

Also play with the hairstyles. Some of them will feminize your face greatly.

And please, look into shaping your brows better. They frame your face and can make or break your look.
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ikanote

Facial hair going away is my dream but I really don't even know how to go about it... But around August I definitely have push myself a bit. I hate that every time I find a decent place, there is so many bad reviews.
I didn't really understand what you meant by eye.. My actual eye or the bone that forms the eye?
My lips are really strange and I tend to not look at them :X
I have this habit of accepting I won't be attractive because I don't look a certain way.. I don't find Hispanic people very attractive so I don't really have any expectations but to look at a bit feminine..
Hairstyle is tricky since my hair is rebellious and my forehead is so huge my whole hand fits
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Lady_Oracle

Yep the ocular change makes a dramatic difference, meaning your eyes change to softer female eyes, they sparkle lol like they shine a bit more.. hope that make's sense (sorry don't know the technical term) but that doesn't happen for awhile. Its a very subtle change but you'll notice it when it happens. The fat deposits in your face will fill out provided you've gained some weight, so your facial features will become softer.
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iKate

Quote from: ikanote on July 25, 2015, 08:35:30 PM
Facial hair going away is my dream but I really don't even know how to go about it... But around August I definitely have push myself a bit. I hate that every time I find a decent place, there is so many bad reviews.

If you were up here I'd guide you to a few places.

Laser is how I'd start and with dark hair and the YAG you may not even need electrolysis.
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ikanote

Aww~ and so I wait for the year to pass by :3 haha I know I am odd person, it is just hard when I want to do something and everyone hates it. My mom hates my hairstyle and what I like to wear.. And so does my brother.. I kind of have to figure out things for myself. No one really compliments me so I have this just be honest attitude. Sorry if I seem to reject your advice.. They're really good advice but I am really complicated.. I was expecting some harsh opinions about my.face. I was mentally prepared today :3 anyways thank you all for your comments
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Lady_Oracle

I honestly don't ever give harsh opinions here since it's a place for support and building each other up. Unless you personally ask me like in pm then I can tell you if you still wish. I was alone in my early years of transition. I learned a lot of things on my own through research. Your best resource is youtube honestly, there's tons of great info on every topic. Not to mention hearing the personal experiences of trans woman your age is invaluable, since there's not many of us early 20s transitioners on this site. I started hrt around your age so if you want any advice or anything, I'd be happy to help.
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Boo Stew

Quote from: ikanote on July 25, 2015, 08:35:30 PM

I didn't really understand what you meant by eye.. My actual eye or the bone that forms the eye?
My lips are really strange and I tend to not look at them :X


She means your perception of what you look like. Not your literal eye.  ;)

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KristinaM

I think you look great!  Before I even read anything you wrote or checked your gender marker, I looked at the pics and thought, "awww, she's cute!"  :D

Now, knowing what I do and using a bit more scrutiny, you remind me of this guy I used to take Tae Kwon Do with, but that's not a bad thing, you could be his sister!  You have nice soft features, even skin tone (makeup?), beautiful hair and eyebrows, and a nice smile.  :)  I think you look just fine darling for a young woman who's coming into her own finally.  With a couple years of HRT I predict that you'll be gorgeous!
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Jasper93

Quote from: ikanote on July 25, 2015, 12:40:14 PM
I finally came out on Facebook and my friends were very supportive. Now, I tried to ask them if there is any change on me and all of them said... "It's hard to say.. I've seen you and you always look the same." at work people give weird glares and i tell my friends they ask me why?. I came to the conclusion that it is useless asking my friends about my facial changes.. My mother and brother are.the worst too because they just say I see you everyday so you look normal. So I wanted to get on opinion on my face from people that don't know how I look.. It's really embarrassing but I just wanted some feedback on my progress.. I feel like freaking girl inside so I know my judgement has been completely altered.. As much as that's all I care about.. I sometimes get very dysphoria when I look at face.. I just want to know what part of my face makes me look masculine? I don't wear makeup because I am so colorblind there's really no point...that and I just feel dysphoric when I wear makeup. My brother said my beard and mustache is my worst enemy.. But I remember before hrt my facial bones were really pointy and my chin was the part I hated with a passion. I have put so much love into my hair that I think covers my extremely large forehead quite well until the breeze kicks in. Also I am almos pretty much 3 months of hrt as of today :3



Your face looks beautiful. Moreover, if I showed you photos of how my face looked at the 3-month mark compared to now, you'd see an enormous difference. You're going to look amazing!

Ally
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ikanote

Aww :3 thanks for the compliments... I think I'll wait a couple months or a year and ask again. For some reason what my friend said to me has really made me confused "it is going hard to look at you differently since I've seen you male all my life". I took it as I will always look male.. My mom told I'm over exaggerating about what he said... Today my friend told me I suck at English because he never said that.. It was weird because I looked okay in the mirror but I felt like maybe it was an illusion. Anyways I think my English comprehension is terrible maybe I should study a bit. It wasn't as bad as I thought, well posting a picture ><)
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Evolving Beauty

Darling I don't wanna be harsh but you need a major revamp.

FULL FFS

Main stuffs:
1. Prominent brow ridge needs to be reduced & eye brow lift
2. Nose
3. Lip lift done
4. Mandibular jaw reduction
5. Cheek implant

I dont see your forehead so can't say anything on your hairline

You have very beautiful hair and skin and I see great potentials in you. Hormones might work for cheeks but things as brow ridge surgery is indispensable. Good luck!
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iKate

To be fair, I don't think her brow ridge is really all that bad. The nose could also be affected by hormones to some degree.

I would start with the hair removal and try various hairstyles and go from there.

I haven't had FFS, and I have similar features yet I consistently pass (despite what some others here have said). With my new voice I now pass unquestionably and instantly.

But I will be going for FFS eventually, but it's not necessary to pass for me right now. I just want to look better.
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ikanote

Thanks for honest answer. :) though it all so correct my aunts on my dad's side all have no cheeks and have really ugly brow ridges >< that doesn't bother me much but it good to know.
Well I wasn't really considering any ffs more of just what sucks about my face, maybe my nose since I didn't like it. I don't mess with implants and lips.. I think I rather do tracheal shave before any of those as that is way too many cosmetic surgeries and would be too expensive..
Like I said I am not trying to be pretty, I just want to be myself. I was only asking so I know why people can see too much male or such.. That way I don't end up one day wondering why and end up feeling delusional. That was the original idea when I made this post at least.
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