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Started by phoenix633, July 27, 2015, 07:40:13 PM

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phoenix633

I have not legally changed my name and had to leave my old job because it wasn't a good environment for me during this transition. I need to start applying to new jobs and I want to go by new name at my new job and present as male. My therapist said I should put my legal first name and then chosen name in parenthesis on my resume. Is this the best way to include both on a resume? Also how do I handle references. I've thought of three references who I feel comfortable telling about my transition and who I know all think highly of me and are generally very support of lgbt people but I don't know if I should ask them to use my new name and male pronouns if they are called. And I don't know if this would make them uncomfortable, not that I think me transitioning will but that it may be hard for them to switch names and pronouns when they haven't seen me in a while and they may mess up on accident or worry about that. Is this a reasonable thing to ask my references? I've working on getting men's clothes that fit and look good for an interview too. I've got a nice dress shirt but I don't know if I should wear a tie or what is appropriate men's clothes to wear for an interview. Any other advice on this subject would be helpful too. Thanks.
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Dena

When I transition the paper work couldn't be changed until after surgery. I used common usage to change my name by only using the female name in public. It was common to carry cash in those days so I wrote checks to pay bills at home in my old name and the bank knew what was going on so I could get cash when needed.
All job applications were in my female name and only one time was my status an issue. I took a temp job at the Ford military division and one form required me to put down any other names I have used in the past. I put my old name down and about 3 weeks latter I was called into a meeting where I was questioned about it because they wanted to upgrade my security clearance for a better job.
I don't see a reason to put the old name down unless it is required by the papers work. Though it might be more of an issue now they are looking at Social Security numbers closer and they have to do an E verify on you. My mother even had to do one on me when I started working in the family business.
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invisiblemonsters

i put my birth names first initial, then my preferred name, then my last name for my resume. for my interview i work dress shirt and dress pants, no tie, all black. when i got the call for the job, i got a phone interview first. she asked me what the first initial meant, and i told her i was transgender and didn't get my name change done yet. she said it was fine but on my name tag i might need to put my first initial. when i got hired, i told the person who hired me i was transgender and didn't know what name to put on the forms. i just put both down. the lady for HR did my training and she knew about me being trans and everything was my initials (like to punch in and on the schedule) but my name tag said my preferred (now legal) name. when i got my name change, everything changed over. i've been stealth the entire time.

most applications now a days have your legal name then preferred name kind of thing.
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Valwen

you ever have a day when you look on the forums and see a post that suddenly became important in your life, ya that just happend.

I may end up going through this too, recently went full time, I am in the middle of a name change, waiting on the court system to get back to me and there was recent trouble at my job, not trans related as far as I can tell but still stressful and transisioning has made my already fragile self esteem even more shaky so the trouble just plain broke me, it took me days to put myself back together so that I can think about it without crying, so i dont know if I can keep working in that enviornment for much longer. Plus I hate the job and have been doing it forever.

thanks for the post.

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phoenix633

Well I didn't know if they would need my legal name to verify past jobs and school info. Also, what do you do about your references? Did you tell them to use your new name and pronouns and were you worried they may mess up and use the old name and pronoun? All my references knew me pre transition so that is mainly what I don't know how to handle.
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Dena

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I never gave references and I was never ask for them. As far as school, by the time I transition I was on my third job so the school record wasn't as important as my work record. As I was a programmer, once I was through the  door, my interview was what got me hired. The problem for me was getting through the door as I hadn't completed my degree and I think personal eliminate me for that reason. The last job I took was in 1986 and as it was a small company, they weren't much on checking on my past. I didn't know it till a short time ago but my voice gave me away the moment I walked through the door so they knew what they had but they also knew I would fit the special need they had. The subject of my past wasn't brought up until I had worked there for many years.
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FTMax

Keep in mind that most of the people involved in the hiring process likely won't be working with you directly. So if you need to out yourself to them, it's not the end of the world. I haven't put my old name on any job application since coming out and have had no issues getting interviews.

I personally changed my name on my resume ahead of my legal name change. The few positions I applied for, I interviewed as male. I've had HR people call me back while they're doing background checks about a conflicting Social Security number, at which point I update them about my name change and we all go on with our days. No issues. If veterans didn't have preferential hiring in the government, I'd have a new job by now.

For references, I'd call them and let them know the situation and what you would like from them. If they seem to have any issues with it, don't use them. If you're young (pre-college/high school), I'd even consider saying you don't have any work history and therefore no references. If it makes you feel better, I do hiring in my current position and I have never called a person's references that I was seriously considering for a position. Unless you're trying to work for some kind of government or government contractor, I sincerely doubt your references will be looked at or called.

It really depends on the job you're applying for as far as what to wear. Most interviews, I've worn a polo shirt tucked into dress pants with a belt and dress shoes. I wore a suit and tie to all of my police hiring activities (multi-stage interviews). If the job you're applying for would require you to wear a suit, get a suit. If it would require you to wear a tie, interview in a tie. Anything less than that, a dress shirt by itself should be fine.
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invisiblemonsters

Quote from: phoenix633 on July 28, 2015, 03:36:04 AM
Well I didn't know if they would need my legal name to verify past jobs and school info. Also, what do you do about your references? Did you tell them to use your new name and pronouns and were you worried they may mess up and use the old name and pronoun? All my references knew me pre transition so that is mainly what I don't know how to handle.

i didn't need to give references but i guess it depends on the kind of job you're going for. if they mess up they could correct themselves. most people don't think twice about that stuff and if you have a big family, you get used to family members calling you every name before yours, and messing up pronouns! i guess that's why it doesn't worry me too much but then again, everyone i know who i'd use as a reference knows or would use the right name/pronoun.

i also agree with ftmax that you probably won't be working with those people directly.
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