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Started by Tristyn, July 31, 2015, 09:55:28 AM

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Tristyn

I'm sorry if this topic has been done a bazillion times and I will try to shorten this one more than usual because I really gotta go get my hair trimmed(its in patches and I can't take no more>.>).

But I want to read a well-thought out(but horribly written) letter over the phone to a neighbor right across the street from where I live. I am very afraid to even call her and do this because she has known me a long time since I was 5 years old as "Sparkle" and not as "Phoenix."

I think I upset her a lot when she discovered a book about the truths of transsexualism in her mail.  :embarrassed: My father and I always get stuff from Amazon.com whenever we are able to, and trust her enough to send some products to her house(as long as they aren't very large packages because she is elderly and in her 70s) because there are nosy kids in my 'hood. Unfortunately, I did not place my name on her address like I was supposed to, but instead placed her name on it to avoid being mistaken as an identity thief or some ^&*%. One night I go to my dresser to make a very unwelcomed discovery; the package I waited happily for was opened. Well, I know it was not my father, who I intended it for any way because he is good about never opening up my mail. And then he told me the news I feared took place; my neighbor opened it. :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

It seems that fate jolted and fast forwarded me to a very strange place I am not ready to be in yet. I was not ready and still feel so unprepared to come out fully to her, my neighbor. She is also very conservative/religious/Christian, which makes this even more uneasy for me. If my handwriting was good or I had access to her email and/or a printer, I would give her a letter in an envelope and place it in her mailbox or hand it to her directly and run back home before she finished(and trust me, I would make it too cause this is one long @#$ letter, lol!).

I am debating whether to come out to her this week, today, or later next week. She was very riled up the last time we spoke on the phone concerning her mail. I assumed she was going to cut me off(not sure whether she did, is, or not), but stated her mail has been acting up. I think she fabricated this and is ashamed to even know me now. So because things went down like that, I really have no choice but to at least speak up and try to make things right, instead of allowing our long, casual friendship as neighbors to tunnel on down the drain without so much as a fight from my end.

Any advice guys and gals? How did ya'll come out to ya'lls neighbors? Am I on the right track?

IMO, I just feel like our coming out journeys never end because new people means new closets to open. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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KristinaM

In my experience (which so far is limited), there is never a "good time" to tell someone you are or you think you are trans.  They either take it well or poorly, and there is no preparation for either.  As for in person, over the phone, by e-mail, or texting, that's all up to you and the person you're coming out to.  I think you'd be better off to have your extensive letter in hand, but to tell her in person, have some important points to talk about, but then give her the letter to maybe cover things that she didn't have the time to consider during the moment.  Good luck!


After a while, I get kinda tired of saying the same things over and over again.  Every person I tell asks me the same questions and I have to give them the same answers, and it just gets to be exasperating...  You'll find that out soon enough and it'll be less of a big deal of HOW or WHEN to tell someone, and more of a big deal that you've yet again found someone who doesn't know and needs it explained again, lol.
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Tristyn

Hi Kristina.

I really read and appreciated your feedback. But my concern is that she is quite up there in age, she has diabetes, and her back ain't what it used to be(she even needed surgery on it...ouch!).

I'm so scared she could pass before I read it to her. And yeah, I think since its a letter for her, I will rewrite it a lot better and hand it to her. I think that actually does make sense; to read it out loud in front of her and then give it to her.

I'm just super afraid she is gonna tell me, "honey, you need God in your life," and slam her door in my face.

When I came out to my dad, I asked him if he would have wished I said nothing and he actually asked me, "what do you think?" Then I asked, "You mean you would have rather passed without ever knowing." And then he said, "I dunno...you will find out one day." So he is in such denial it stings me like a stingray. :'(

This rejection, is what I fear the most from coming out....
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KristinaM

The rejection is tough, but it toughens your skin.  My dad said I need Jesus and disowned me.  My mom is in shambles.  Neither one of them wants to talk about it with anybody or get medication or anything it seems, but I'm whittling my mom down as we're still e-mailing each other for now.

That was 2 weeks ago.  Now, my situation is a little different from yours in that I've been living on my own for the past 7 years with my wife.  My parents live over an hour away, and I rarely saw them anyways.  I was never close with my dad either, but my mom and I have always been good to each other.  So it's difficult trying to deal with her right now, but as for my dad?  I couldn't care any less if I never saw or spoke to him again.  He's been nothing but a rude and overbearing a$$hole to me since I told him.

Sorry for venting there a bit, lol.  My point was though, rejection gets easier after it's happened to you a couple times.  I told my sister a week before my parents, and when she rejected me I bawled my eyes out for a couple days afterward.  She's of the same mind as my father.  That made it easier when my he rejected me a few days later.

Some people just can't handle it though if you're upfront about it, and if they're older and not going to be around long, maybe you should just wait for them to come to you.  When/if they do eventually confront you about it, you can just play it like, "I'm just exploring my gender self-expression".  That's what I tell people I work with and it shuts them up pretty quick since they don't have anything to follow up with, lol.
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Tristyn

Quote from: KristinaM on August 04, 2015, 10:27:04 AM
The rejection is tough, but it toughens your skin.  My dad said I need Jesus and disowned me.  My mom is in shambles.  Neither one of them wants to talk about it with anybody or get medication or anything it seems, but I'm whittling my mom down as we're still e-mailing each other for now.

That was 2 weeks ago.  Now, my situation is a little different from yours in that I've been living on my own for the past 7 years with my wife.  My parents live over an hour away, and I rarely saw them anyways.  I was never close with my dad either, but my mom and I have always been good to each other.  So it's difficult trying to deal with her right now, but as for my dad?  I couldn't care any less if I never saw or spoke to him again.  He's been nothing but a rude and overbearing a$$hole to me since I told him.

Sorry for venting there a bit, lol.  My point was though, rejection gets easier after it's happened to you a couple times.  I told my sister a week before my parents, and when she rejected me I bawled my eyes out for a couple days afterward.  She's of the same mind as my father.  That made it easier when my he rejected me a few days later.

Some people just can't handle it though if you're upfront about it, and if they're older and not going to be around long, maybe you should just wait for them to come to you.  When/if they do eventually confront you about it, you can just play it like, "I'm just exploring my gender self-expression".  That's what I tell people I work with and it shuts them up pretty quick since they don't have anything to follow up with, lol.

What up, Kristina?

Nah, its cool. I think venting every once in awhile is actually healthy cause it gets negative, toxic feelings off yo' chest. I think you tougher than me. I mean, it must hurt bad for your dad to say those mean things to you. People in general need to learn better communication skills, imo. They do not have to agree with transsexualism but at least support, accept, and always love you no matter what. That is what I have come to believe what family is all about and unfortunately ours seem anything but that, eh? Plus, my pops and one of my sistas are on the same page too. I wanted to cry when my sister basically rejected me over the phone by sayin, "I still love you. I always have. But(that 'but' really messed up everything for me at that point) you need to fight it(the 'confusion' about my gender)." So I kinda had an 'f-you-moment' towards her, because even after I begged her to at least research and educate herself about it, she like, blatantly refused because "she don't have to." Its like, ok for everyone else to do what they want but us, right? ::)

I might do what you had to do eventually, as far as having almost no contact with your dad. I think its less stressful for us to separate ourselves from folk who deny us, our identity, our true selves like that and would rather us be our pseudo selves based off of this lil' gender box accordin' to what is between our legs. I should have been like, "Hm....well, Dad, what are your thoughts on intersexed people?" He would have been like, "Huh?" cause these type of ppl who deny us are straight ignorant about the dynamics of gender identities as well as sexual orientation and think there is actually a 'right' one(i.e. cisgender heterosexual). It pisses me off. >:(

And that last bit you said was awesome advice.^^ I never thought to tell people I am exploring my gender expression whenever they are in question on why I rather be called Phoenix and not Sparkle, like on any of my documentation. One of my cabbies from the other day, who drove me to dialysis, literally bust out laughing in a scoffing manner when I told him over the phone to just call me Phoenix. I got so mad, cause of that and how he stuttered with callin' me "Miss Sparkle," "Miss Rosemond," "Miss Phoenix," Miss-every-f*&(%ing-thing! >:( I think he did it on purpose. But funny thing is, when he saw me for the first time that day, he did compliment my recent stud-fade haircut. ;D So in my heart, I could actually forgive him and overlook that error. Still grinds my gears a lil tho....
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KristinaM

If that guy doesn't want to call you Mr. Phoenix (or however you go), you should call him "Ms. Fuzzy Lumpkin" or "Ms. Princess"!   Or something else equally ridiculous/mis-gendered and see how he likes being called the wrong name!  And stick to your guns on it.  He'll get the picture eventually and either start calling you Phoenix, or keep calling you Sparkle, but he'll have a new pet name now that you can always use!  You might even end up being able to kid around about it and be more friendly.  :)

Like, if someone walked up to me and were to say, "Hey John!"  I could turn around and say, "Hey Jerk!"  LOL.  Keep it friendly and it'll work out.
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