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Trans People Were Never Cis

Started by stephaniec, August 20, 2015, 11:06:32 PM

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Everbrooke

Quote from: BenKenobi on August 28, 2015, 09:03:00 AM
This literally has nothing to do with my post at all
I wouldn't say nothing, but at the same time, I wasn't trying to form a debate either.  Your last paragraph of the post before that was clear that you weren't for mistreatment over a girl being trans.  I'm just venting at the divide.
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Tessa James

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I did live a long time with white male privilege and it did influence my character to some degree.  How much and in what way?  I often felt no one could really know me as my exterior shell was not then and, even though more congruent now, is still not all of who I am.

We need not be bound by our past, however, and to consider any of us unable to see oppression and injustice regardless of gender is to further draw exclusionary lines in the sand.  Once again, biology is not destiny.

Thank goodness we can all learn and we can all participate in creating the equity we all need.
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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cindianna_jones

I"m an engineer and I did work professionally for 7 or 8 years in my field. Yes, it is true. I did experience male privilege as compared to t the rest of my working career. I received a higher salary and better projects to work on. In the female role, I had to out work the men to get recognized and receive good compensation. I had a VP tell my director early on that he didn't want any female managers and that he wanted me gone as soon as possible. That did happen with the first big layoff that came along. A similar thing happened in my last job before I started my business. ALL females were laid off in a department of 125 people. I was told that this was not discrimination because, after all, HR laid off the men. Is that a hoot or what?

Cindi
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HoneyStrums

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Because I could burp and fart without being told it is unbecoming of a lady, I recieved male privilage?
Perhaps If people descriped "male privilage" as benificial sexisme, More people would be willing to agree with the people saying they exsperienced it.

But sugesting a person, meaning a persons qualities, and persnality exsperienced privilage (greater respect) due to there external presentation, is just wrong.

Because, when a persons personality does not conform to the exspectaions of that presentation, they as people are in fact met with disrespect.

So Yes I believe without doubt, that the closer to that ideal male a presentaion is, the more respect that presentaion recieves.

But in contrast to that, how much a persons personality and qualities as a person differ from the exspectaions of said presentasion, the more diperspect a person recieves.

So when a person who does not conform to those exspectations, says I did not recieve the prvilages alloted to said presentation, they mean showing any aspect of ther personality was met with dis-respect.

So what they maen is, in that form, my personality which is what makes me me, was not privilaged and was in contrast disrespected.

Having it taken for granted you are smart, when you are not, is not a privilage.
Having it taken for granted you can protect yourself, when you cant, is not a privilage.
Having it taken for granted you will meat any exspectaion alotted an image, is not a privilage.

Because exsperiencing privilage means to be respected more then, and when you do not conform to those exspectations you are in fact, dis-respected.

So if showing any aspect of your personality in that presentaion was not met with disrespect, that was a privilage.

So male privilage is exstended to a persons visual exspression, not a persons identity,

So please to avoid confusion say it like it is, A persons identity exsperiences, benificial sexisme, on accout of privileges offerd to their external presentaion?

That way by saying benificail sexisme, and your presentaion recieved the privilages.

You accept as people we didnt recieve the privilages (because we didnt), but we accept that because of our presentation having privilages extended to it(because it did), we benifited from those privilages.

Under this I can say It was a privlage to
play games, be lazy, burp and fart.
And do these things without exsperiencing the disrespect a female presentaion recieves, because they are considered un-ladylike.

All other aspects of my personality, in-fact recieve less respect in the male presentaon, I know this from exsperience.

And having your identity insulted and dis-respected on account of your presentaion is in fact the exact oposit of what privilage means.
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Lyndsey

I was born in the wrong body and I have always been female. And I only tell when it is needed to be brought up. Like when you are going into a relationship. Other that that it is not to be known. I'm a women. And will die a women. My job that I have worked now for three and a half years know one will ever know and there is know reason to even discuss it.
I guess that I have been blessed with passing very well and have never had a problem. I think that passing is also a state of mind. If you don't think about it you won't have to worry about it and this in it self I have learned is the best attitude to have. As you know a genetic born women dose not think about passing as a women so why should you God bless you all and be strong. That is a big key to the big puzzle. But don't get me wrong there is a lot more pieces to the big puzzle.. Be safe first. [emoji173]️[emoji126]


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Lyndsey Marie Burke- Started my journey February 2011 Full time on May 5th 2014 HRT June 6th 2014 Name change and on all records and court documents June 20th 2014 SCS October 20th 2015 with Doctor Marci Bowers in Burlingame California I'm a very Happy women and finally living what I should have been living my whole life. Expect the unexpected. I feel Blessed. Love, Live, Be Happy. Be safe.
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