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That'll teach me not to stick my nose in!

Started by Ms Grace, September 27, 2015, 01:06:07 AM

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Ms Grace

So I was going food shopping at the local centre (or mall, as US folks may call it). Saw an altercation between four women - two asian women (with a five year old boy) and two white women. There's a bit of a thing in Australia at the moment of white trash rejects losing their racist @#$% in public and abusing non whites (usually asian women or muslim women) for no reason other than they hate people from other races. Maybe this was that, maybe it wasn't but I always intervene when I see this kind of rubbish happening. And of course I copped a face full of invective and abuse from the white women - an older woman and (presumably) her adult daughter. Apparently the 5 year old child with the asian women had accidentally hit/bumped/grazed/missed the older woman in the leg with a ball (which I couldn't see) and apparently lacking any anger management or social skills they decided to go full on rage monster about it. And all I managed to do was make it worse.

The younger white, close to foaming at the mouth it seemed, woman called me "a man" which I must say I was rather surprised about!!! I kind of take it this was intended as an insult (although I think I would have preferred "b@#$%" or even the c word!!) - but did she really think I was a man? I mean, I was dressed in skinny jeans, had a t shirt (obvious boobs), handbag, jewellery, etc so I'd expect that if this woman really thought I was a man she would have launched into a whole lot of of other derogatory commentary about me (you know, "->-bleeped-<-", "->-bleeped-<-", "homo"... all the "classic" gay/trans insults) but no. So what was that all about??

Anyway, after managing to inflame the situation I just told the two asian women to walk away, which they tried to do with their kid, and of course the two dragons were still up for a fight. Some people. I started to look out for security, two young white guys got involved (on the side of the asian ladies) and copped an earful from the dragons. Sheesh. Anyway, I think the asian women and kid got away. Way to spoil the morning shop. :(

I know why I intervene in these situations - I hate racism and racists (although I have no proof that was the case here, just seemed like it), and I'd hate to be the person who did nothing to help someone facing racial abuse. Problem is, every time I do step in I'm putting my personal safety at risk. Several years ago I was lucky I didn't get an empty beer bottle in the face from some drunk white trash moron who was mouthing off against two Indian students on a train.

Problem is, I don't think I intervene in the right way. Is there a right way? Maybe I should have just called security and kept out of it. Next time I will.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Zoetrope

Pepper spray is more effective on Aussie white trash than words.

;~o
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Ms Grace

Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
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Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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stephaniec

Being from the insanely violent US My first approach is screaming for security then screaming at the hostiles. I use to have a very bad temper when my moral trigger goes off. HRT has calmed me but its still there.
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rosinstraya

Sounds as though your suspicions were 100% correct Grace!

Unfortunately some people go straight into confrontation mode when they feel "disrespected" for whatever reason they have that day. Their behaviour is a real shock to most people, who will generally only reach that stage in extremely rare situations. But, for these guys, this is their bread and butter - they go off like this all the time. Call security or the police - with some people you never know how far they might go, even over something completely trivial.
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Martine A.

Call the security, or walk away.

Here in the Netherlands I am not quick on calling the police if the situation could turn on me, as an foreigner. For instance, I see a couple getting physical, and I call the police, then the couple denies fight, and the police charges me with abuse of 112. Nothankspleasedoyourstuffdontgetmeinvolvedluvyabye!
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katrinaw

Kudos to you Grace, I too hate that sort of crap... just so unnecessary, we all share something in common... we're all human!

I am so sorry you copped so much abuse, but those scum do not care who they abuse unfortunately.
But good on you for the gallant efforts and intervention.

Katy xxx
Long term MTF in transition... HRT since ~ 2003...
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Cynobyte

Most people use a camera to record the situation..  if those girls saw you recording,  it could have went 2 ways..

1.  They are smart and stop fighting knowing their actions are wrong

2.  They just don't care about confrontation and the authority, and they could then turn this hate onto you if you try to confront them.

Although I've never done it, I have yet to see the person recording an incident get physically or legally hurt.  Yea it's possible,  but the odds should be alot less?

Anyone see a downside?


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suzifrommd

You're a lot braver than I am, Grace. I'd be afraid of someone assaulting me. I admire your courage.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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iKate

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Ms Grace

Quote from: suzifrommd on September 27, 2015, 07:37:17 AM
You're a lot braver than I am, Grace. I'd be afraid of someone assaulting me. I admire your courage.

To be honest I think being 6'3" makes me more foolhardy than brave...but it also most likely was the only reason I didn't get a fist in my face.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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stephaniec

you could always keep your distance
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