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Started by CosmicJoke, October 12, 2015, 08:33:46 PM

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CosmicJoke

I feel alot of depression and sadness for some reason, though I don't really know why. Possibly it's for many reasons, but I feel like I have alot of problems enjoying things or it seems like I leave them with disappointment and emptiness.
I try and think positive or to not expect too much from others, but it still hurts.
I think maybe the fact that I live as a woman now but I am coming closer to the time where maybe SRS is a need more than a want.
Maybe it's draining me from the inside and I don't even know it? Lately, I have been having fears of never really living a happy life and constantly being disappointed and not really loved by anyone.
I feel like my purpose has become largely based on being sad, but being "strong" anyway and not complaining about it in order to be good to others like family or just anyone else who thinks it's me being greedy.
I sometimes think really dark thoughts like violence, rape, drug abuse. I don't know exactly why, but it's almost like I feel like I have to put myself into some sort of intense situation in order to gain love from someone.
It's almost like the thought of moving forward and doing what would actually make me feel good and happy is kind of on the back burner just because being miserable has become such a large part of my identity in a sense.
I want SRS, though sometimes I'm dubious to what it may actually do for me and if it would actually disipate my feelings of living being suffering.
Is it common for a transsexual person who is in the pre op phase to experience these types of feelings? Any thoughts? I've already spoken to a therapist and a psychiatrist for 7 years. They both had a way of just irritating me more than actually helping me.
I've learned to help myself/love myself, but I feel like I'm lying to myself in many ways by putting other family members needs above my own just to "keep the peace."
I am 23 years old. I am unemployed, and I believe "getting a job" would as my therapist/psychiatrist have nagged me into doing would only take away from my transition and my life as female.
My mom is supportive in my opinion. She allowed for me to do everything it basically entails and even helped me with it, though it has causes us to butt heads at many points. This is largely where my fear stems from in terms of moving forward. I am largely reliant on my parents income though at the same time I am a good daughter of theirs. I am respectful. I'm not having wild parties or acting irresponsibly as most 23 year old may be doing, not that my circumstances in life ever allowed for me to.
My mom agreed that we should focus on my transition into a female once I graduated in 2010 due to all the bullying and difficulty keeping up that I endured throughout school.
That's just some background on where I am in terms of my transition. I'm just looking to see if other trans people such as myself can potentially understand/relate or maybe have some pearls of wisdom. Thanks for reading by the way...
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stephaniec

I really have no answers for you I've lived all my life in depression. the one thing I found that helped me through life was having a job. It really didn't matter too much the type of job , but rather to give me some structure and money . I did mostly physical labor my entire life and built up my strength. When I was 21 years old I was really mentally ill due to drugs and became very depressed and anorexic . I almost starved to death. I got help from some very wonderful people and realized I needed to get healthy and build my strength back. I started working manual labor jobs and I realized I needed to start eating again and I never went back to starving myself to death. I think a job of any kind will help to let you see what you need to do to get to where you want to go. Just my 2.3 cents.
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April_TO

First of all hugs - I think in one way shape or form, some or even most of us undergo some form of depression or anxiety over a lot of things i.e. love life, finance, acceptance etch. I say in my experience even now that I'm pass a year on HRT - I still have my doubts over my transition. However, I have to remind myself why I chose this path.

I say focus on your life and create a future for yourself. Be financially stable and then from there you can move on to greater things.

Transition is a hard process and it's not for the weak.

Stay strong!

April xo


Quote from: CosmicJoke on October 12, 2015, 08:33:46 PM
I feel alot of depression and sadness for some reason, though I don't really know why. Possibly it's for many reasons, but I feel like I have alot of problems enjoying things or it seems like I leave them with disappointment and emptiness.
I try and think positive or to not expect too much from others, but it still hurts.
I think maybe the fact that I live as a woman now but I am coming closer to the time where maybe SRS is a need more than a want.
Maybe it's draining me from the inside and I don't even know it? Lately, I have been having fears of never really living a happy life and constantly being disappointed and not really loved by anyone.
I feel like my purpose has become largely based on being sad, but being "strong" anyway and not complaining about it in order to be good to others like family or just anyone else who thinks it's me being greedy.
I sometimes think really dark thoughts like violence, rape, drug abuse. I don't know exactly why, but it's almost like I feel like I have to put myself into some sort of intense situation in order to gain love from someone.
It's almost like the thought of moving forward and doing what would actually make me feel good and happy is kind of on the back burner just because being miserable has become such a large part of my identity in a sense.
I want SRS, though sometimes I'm dubious to what it may actually do for me and if it would actually disipate my feelings of living being suffering.
Is it common for a transsexual person who is in the pre op phase to experience these types of feelings? Any thoughts? I've already spoken to a therapist and a psychiatrist for 7 years. They both had a way of just irritating me more than actually helping me.
I've learned to help myself/love myself, but I feel like I'm lying to myself in many ways by putting other family members needs above my own just to "keep the peace."
I am 23 years old. I am unemployed, and I believe "getting a job" would as my therapist/psychiatrist have nagged me into doing would only take away from my transition and my life as female.
My mom is supportive in my opinion. She allowed for me to do everything it basically entails and even helped me with it, though it has causes us to butt heads at many points. This is largely where my fear stems from in terms of moving forward. I am largely reliant on my parents income though at the same time I am a good daughter of theirs. I am respectful. I'm not having wild parties or acting irresponsibly as most 23 year old may be doing, not that my circumstances in life ever allowed for me to.
My mom agreed that we should focus on my transition into a female once I graduated in 2010 due to all the bullying and difficulty keeping up that I endured throughout school.
That's just some background on where I am in terms of my transition. I'm just looking to see if other trans people such as myself can potentially understand/relate or maybe have some pearls of wisdom. Thanks for reading by the way...
Nothing ventured nothing gained
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Valwen

I was about to post something terrifyingly similar to this, Though I really don't feel its all that connected to my recent transision as these feelings have been there all along, yes some of it is connected but its almost like a independent problem at this point. and my job dose not help it, instead every time there is a problem it threatens to make me loose control, mentally, emotionally just fall appart, I might hit something or myself and minutes later feel awful about it and start a depressive spiral of self hatred that I have been working unsuccessfully to break. Instead I am stuck thinking about my mistakes, which brings up past ones, and by the end of it, one little moment of intense depression or anger ends with me spending days so broken even playing video games seems like too much work.

the depression, self hatred, anixenty, and panic seem to feed eachother, little things trigger extreme reactions which in turn lead to long term reactions and further depression, anxiety and self hatred. At this point I am actually afraid that I might one day be happy, the very idea of not being depressed, to not hate myself so intently it scares me, I don't even know who I would be without it, so much of  my personality and methods of dealing with the world is tied up in these feelings the idea of being without them, its like asking someone to imagine there life if they grew up in a severely diffrent culture or hell as a diffrent gender. I can barely comprehend what life would be like if I didn't over react, freak out, regret it, hate myself, and spend a week wishing I was dead, every few days.

I have tried to take steps to fix this, I do mirror work each night, a few minutes where I try and talk positive to myself and tell myself I love you, I try and meditate occasionally though it rarely happens. I try and stop myself when i start freaking out and tell myself to relax, but the sheer effort of constantly patroling my thoughts and stopping myself from being self hating and negitive is exhausting and it feels like once the dam breaks and it starts it washes away all the work I have done, I feel like my job and the lack of free time it affords me is the most toxic of all things to my possible happiness, but I cant afford to quit it, though after the short meltdown that led to the last few days of deep self hatred and depression that happend sunday I may get fired.

So ya I know how your feeling, its like my stomach is in knots I am so depressed and tired, and sometimes I come up for air and things are a bit better then it all falls appart, and I feel terrible if I don't talk about it but I also feel awful when I do because I feel I am hurting friends doing it, and when they dont know what to say in responce to my problems and so say nothing, I feel like I clearly went too far and now they hate me and never want to talk to me again, so I don't contact them for weeks sometimes, I even shut down my face book account after a few such events.

Sorry I talked so much about my problems but ya I think I get how your feeling, and I have no advice, no cure, if I did I would love to share it, instead I just keep dragging myself along, regretting the lack of courage that has kept me from killing myself and often times hating that very rare glimmer of hope that makes me keep going.

Serena
What is a Lie when it's at home? Anyone?
Is it the depressed little voice inside? Whispering in my ear? Telling me to give up?
Well I'm not giving up. Not for that part of me that hates myself. That part wants me to wither and die. not for you. Never for you.  --Loki: Agent of Asgard

Started HRT Febuary 21st 2015
First Time Out As Myself June 8th 2015
Full Time June 24th 2015
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cheryl reeves

Your 23,hate too say this but you haven't started living yet. When I was 23 I was married with a baby on the way,I was 25 when my son was born. I'm 50 and I have lived life,the good,the bad and the ugliness of it. I've had people tell me you know nothing about depression,I been dealing with depression since I was 13 when I didn't mature like the other boys,instead grew boobs,try being male with boobs,I went to wearing baggy shirts,dating went out the window. See I'm mtf,ive known I was  trans,since before I knew a name for it,I face disphoria daily sometimes so bad it takes everything in me to get out of bed.I realized a secret when I was 17 and playing chicken with a 18 wheeler that life was made for living,and I have lived a lot in those 33 yrs.I even drove a 18 wheeler dressed,me and my wife had fun with that. If what I post is harsh sorry,in my life I have not much use for pity parties,on top of all of this I have a disability,I have scoliosis and massive nerve damage in both legs,yes I'm a cripple,should be in a wheelchair,but I keep getting up and walk,I've worked healthier people in the ground trying too keep up with me.My advice is put on your big girl panties,get a job and start living,instead of hiding.
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Lady_Oracle

I'm really similar to you but I'm 25, started transition like 5 years ago, 3.5 on hrt. I also rely heavily on my parents. I'm pre-op too and like I've realized this year that I need this surgery 150%. I didn't think it was bothering me too much before but the dysphoria grew worst before I even realized it. Social and genital dysphoria is killer, I keep falling back into my depression and a lot of it has to do with still being pre-op. I might have surgery next year if things go smoothly, so I have something to look forward too.

I'll post more later..too tired  :-\
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CosmicJoke

Quote from: Valwen on October 13, 2015, 12:56:24 AM
I was about to post something terrifyingly similar to this, Though I really don't feel its all that connected to my recent transision as these feelings have been there all along, yes some of it is connected but its almost like a independent problem at this point. and my job dose not help it, instead every time there is a problem it threatens to make me loose control, mentally, emotionally just fall appart, I might hit something or myself and minutes later feel awful about it and start a depressive spiral of self hatred that I have been working unsuccessfully to break. Instead I am stuck thinking about my mistakes, which brings up past ones, and by the end of it, one little moment of intense depression or anger ends with me spending days so broken even playing video games seems like too much work.

the depression, self hatred, anixenty, and panic seem to feed eachother, little things trigger extreme reactions which in turn lead to long term reactions and further depression, anxiety and self hatred. At this point I am actually afraid that I might one day be happy, the very idea of not being depressed, to not hate myself so intently it scares me, I don't even know who I would be without it, so much of  my personality and methods of dealing with the world is tied up in these feelings the idea of being without them, its like asking someone to imagine there life if they grew up in a severely diffrent culture or hell as a diffrent gender. I can barely comprehend what life would be like if I didn't over react, freak out, regret it, hate myself, and spend a week wishing I was dead, every few days.

I have tried to take steps to fix this, I do mirror work each night, a few minutes where I try and talk positive to myself and tell myself I love you, I try and meditate occasionally though it rarely happens. I try and stop myself when i start freaking out and tell myself to relax, but the sheer effort of constantly patroling my thoughts and stopping myself from being self hating and negitive is exhausting and it feels like once the dam breaks and it starts it washes away all the work I have done, I feel like my job and the lack of free time it affords me is the most toxic of all things to my possible happiness, but I cant afford to quit it, though after the short meltdown that led to the last few days of deep self hatred and depression that happend sunday I may get fired.

So ya I know how your feeling, its like my stomach is in knots I am so depressed and tired, and sometimes I come up for air and things are a bit better then it all falls appart, and I feel terrible if I don't talk about it but I also feel awful when I do because I feel I am hurting friends doing it, and when they dont know what to say in responce to my problems and so say nothing, I feel like I clearly went too far and now they hate me and never want to talk to me again, so I don't contact them for weeks sometimes, I even shut down my face book account after a few such events.

Sorry I talked so much about my problems but ya I think I get how your feeling, and I have no advice, no cure, if I did I would love to share it, instead I just keep dragging myself along, regretting the lack of courage that has kept me from killing myself and often times hating that very rare glimmer of hope that makes me keep going.

Serena

Well I thank you for your reply. I kind of had this understanding that getting a job a paying for all this myself was only going to take me out of alignment with my feminine self and just make my life harder. I knew it would cause more resentment on my part towards my family, and most likely very detrimenal. It would have corrosive effects on the family and we would most likely become dysfunctional knowing my "role" within my family.
I am spiritual as well. I meditate as well. In fact, there is something in the spiritual community going on right now called "return of the divine feminine." I have been living my life in accordance with my divine feminine essence, and seeing how I can manifest through it.
That's what I have been up to. I am learning everything of interest to me on spirituality and living authentically and with purpose.
Sometimes I find myself in these situations that are totally out of my comfort zone, but then oddly enough those turn into very enlightening experiences.
I just try and enjoy the ride. I try and be the best version of myself that I can be. I would recommend looking into spirituality. It can really keep you alive and enlightened.
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CosmicJoke

Quote from: Lady_Oracle on October 13, 2015, 04:11:22 AM
I'm really similar to you but I'm 25, started transition like 5 years ago, 3.5 on hrt. I also rely heavily on my parents. I'm pre-op too and like I've realized this year that I need this surgery 150%. I didn't think it was bothering me too much before but the dysphoria grew worst before I even realized it. Social and genital dysphoria is killer, I keep falling back into my depression and a lot of it has to do with still being pre-op. I might have surgery next year if things go smoothly, so I have something to look forward too.

I'll post more later..too tired  :-\

I hope the same could happen for me at some point as well. I do have/had plenty of issues socially and then especially at this point, especially after having had a bilateral orchiectomy done over 2 years ago.
I now can see and understand what many transwomen were talking about when making such a big fuss out of SRS. I used to think "Yeah, who cares?"
Now that I am actually living as a woman though and I see the day to day problems one faces as a woman, I can understand why they want to be sexually active.
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stephaniec

"Well I thank you for your reply. I kind of had this understanding that getting a job a paying for all this myself was only going to take me out of alignment with my feminine self and just make my life harder. I knew it would cause more resentment on my part towards my family, and most likely very detrimenal. It would have corrosive effects on the family and we would most likely become dysfunctional knowing my "role" within my family."


I'm just confused sorry if I misinterpret, but is this your rationale for not wanting a job, femininity and family ?
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CosmicJoke

Quote from: stephaniec on October 13, 2015, 04:01:40 PM
"Well I thank you for your reply. I kind of had this understanding that getting a job a paying for all this myself was only going to take me out of alignment with my feminine self and just make my life harder. I knew it would cause more resentment on my part towards my family, and most likely very detrimenal. It would have corrosive effects on the family and we would most likely become dysfunctional knowing my "role" within my family."


I'm just confused sorry if I misinterpret, but is this your rationale for not wanting a job, femininity and family ?

Yes, femininity and family. I want to keep them close to me. My intuition tells me to go with the flow for now, show love/kindness to my family and the rest of the world and it will do the same for me.
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