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Zoolander 2 slammed over ‘awful, unfunny’ Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke

Started by stephaniec, November 18, 2015, 04:01:08 PM

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stephaniec

Zoolander 2 slammed over 'awful, unfunny' Benedict Cumberbatch trans joke

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/11/18/zoolander-2-slammed-over-awful-unfunny-benedict-cumberbatch-trans-joke/

Pink News/By Nick Duffy   11/18/2015

"The clip features Sherlock star Benedict Cumberbatch as All, a new supermodel whose gender is unclear, referencing the trend of androgynous models in high fashion.

However, some have criticized the way the film appears to handle the scenario, with Zoolander and Hansel asking: "Do you have a hot dog or a bun?""
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Peep

Is it bad that I still want to see it? I might not pay to see it...

Sidenote Cumberbatch is so scary without eyebrows
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kira21 ♡♡♡

Isn't the joke about the dimwits that would say such a thing rather than the person that it is being said about?

Sydney_NYC

It's bad taste (and so is the whole movie), but I don't think it's transphobic. I think it was aimed more at androgynous models like Raine Dove than transgender individuals. I am curious to what Raine Dove thinks about it though. I'll have to ask her.
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stephaniec

I like  Stiller's movies   so as another has suggested I'll probably sneak in. There has been a lively discussion in the comment section.
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Ms Grace

Quote"Do you have a hot dog or a bun?"

ugh... the pinnacle of wit...

It may not be transphobic per se but you can bet it makes it way into the vernacular as a trans shaming exercise fairly quickly.
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Peep

Quote from: Ms Grace on November 19, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
ugh... the pinnacle of wit...

It may not be transphobic per se but you can bet it makes it way into the vernacular as a trans shaming exercise fairly quickly.

Yeah that is a thing, the people involved will say it's just a joke not meant with spite but they can't control how the joke is repeated or who by...
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Jill F

Quote from: stephaniec on November 18, 2015, 04:01:08 PM
"Do you have a hot dog or a bun?""

The problem with this is that this trivializes what it is to be transgender and that some people will start to think it's OK to do this.

If a cis guy asks me this, I will be tempted to kick him as hard as I can in the groin and then ask him the same question.

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