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Started by ThaliaNyx, December 05, 2015, 02:06:51 PM

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ThaliaNyx

So... I don't really know where to start. I discovered myself over two years ago, and told my Mom a couple months later. She told my dad this summer, and he seems to be in denial of the entire subject.

I don't care much; I haven't ever been particularly close to him as, until three years ago, he was always off on a job, and I've been growing more distant from him as he exhibits various behaviors which only further make me want to be like him.
Mom, on the other hand, has said she's supportive since I came out to her. However, she's always seemed a bit... reluctant about the subject of my gender identity. At first, she told me she was worried it might be a phase, but that she wanted me to experiment. Even now, though, she still thinks it's a phase. She doesn't seem to mind the idea of me dressing in public, but she gets really withdrawn whenever I talk about hormones or surgeries. Today, she told me that she had to learn how to accept herself as she was, and, as far as I can tell, that I should do the same.

I just don't know. I can see the logic of her argument, but at the same time I can't stand the thought of going through life male, even if I were to dress feminine. I know we can't afford much, but my insurance covers HRT, which is practically all I need at this point. We live in a relatively accepting community, I'm pretty sure - in the three and a half years that we've lived here, I've heard two LGBT-phobic conversations. Two. LGBT-accepting or at least -aware conversations, on the other hand, I hear at least once a week, sometimes even at home. It's just so frustrating! I don't get it! This is not a phase!!!
Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long, till I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on
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Laura_7

Here is a link to a resource:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,195129.msg1740788.html#msg1740788

Its a letter of an accepting dad... it lists a lot of restraints people and especially parents might have:
-did they cause this by an upbringing
-its not a phase
etc

showing parts of it might help...

here are more resources:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,197523.msg1756901.html#msg1756901

Sometimes cis people simply can not relate.
They are comfortable in their being and probably need feelings explained.


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Dena

You might try learning why she needed to accept herself. She might have had feeling like yours or you might be able to contrast the differences between what she felt and what you feel. The fact that is is withdrawn indicates she may not have fully been able to deal with her feelings.

You are correct in that once you are into your late teens, you are going to continue to feel this way and the sooner you are in therapy, the less baggage you will have to deal with latter in life. I know HRT is you goal but you should start asking for therapy because a good therapist will help you deal with your mother.
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ThaliaNyx

Quote from: Dena on December 05, 2015, 02:27:59 PM
You might try learning why she needed to accept herself. She might have had feeling like yours or you might be able to contrast the differences between what she felt and what you feel. The fact that is is withdrawn indicates she may not have fully been able to deal with her feelings.

You are correct in that once you are into your late teens, you are going to continue to feel this way and the sooner you are in therapy, the less baggage you will have to deal with latter in life. I know HRT is you goal but you should start asking for therapy because a good therapist will help you deal with your mother.

She had a pretty abusive childhood... I don't really know much else, as she rarely talks about it.

I'm turning eighteen soon, and I just started seeing a therapist. This week was our second session. It was only this morning that she told me I should start accepting who I am (or at least implied such.)
Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long, till I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on
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Laura_7

Quote from: ThaliaNyx on December 05, 2015, 02:39:02 PM
She had a pretty abusive childhood... I don't really know much else, as she rarely talks about it.

I'm turning eighteen soon, and I just started seeing a therapist. This week was our second session. It was only this morning that she told me I should start accepting who I am (or at least implied such.)

To accept who you are you need to know who you are.
Its not that easy sometimes.

You might try a few easy reversible steps, like changes to hair and clothing style, and see how it makes you feel.
Additionally often trans people kind of try to read others expectations.
So you might try to feel what really makes you happy and comes from within.

Its possible she implied to accept how you look outwards. But that is not the solution with trans people. It can be changed over time.
Decisive is how you feel.

- would make a bit more female look make you a bit more happy ?
- how woud you like to be perceived ?


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Dena

This is going to take time and you may not change your mothers viewpoint. She hasn't accepted herself and put her childhood behind her. Instead she is doing what you did and suppressed her past. She may need therapy as much as you do and possible you seeing a therapist makes her very uncomfortable because as some level she may know she should see one as well. She also is willing to live with a low level pain instead of the major pain she will face if she faces her past again. Be very careful discussing this topic as she may be hurting a good deal.

Possibly by example with you getting better your mother may also enter into healing herself.
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ThaliaNyx

Quote from: Laura_7 on December 05, 2015, 02:47:07 PM
You might try a few easy reversible steps, like changes to hair and clothing style, and see how it makes you feel.

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- would make a bit more female look make you a bit more happy ?
- how woud you like to be perceived ?

Well, I've actually been working on the reversible things - I'm going to start putting my hair in a ponytail when I go back to school in January, if not before then; I'm working on my voice and mannerisms; I have a friend who's said I could have some of her old clothes. I'd like to basically be out by graduation, and to be perceived as female when I go off to college next Fall.

Quote from: Dena on December 05, 2015, 02:51:43 PM
She hasn't accepted herself and put her childhood behind her. Instead she is doing what you did and suppressed her past. She may need therapy as much as you do and possible you seeing a therapist makes her very uncomfortable because as some level she may know she should see one as well.

Actually, Mom's the one who suggested I see a therapist. She's been going to a therapist for several months now, since the major problems with my dad started.
Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long, till I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on
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Dena

Quote from: ThaliaNyx on December 05, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
Actually, Mom's the one who suggested I see a therapist. She's been going to a therapist for several months now, since the major problems with my dad started.
It sounds like all you need to do at this point is wait it out. I suspect the therapist will agree with TG and you will be granted HRT. You may need to be referred to a gender therapist which might slow the process a bit but as long as you are open about your feelings, it sounds like there is a path available to you.
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Laura_7

Quote from: ThaliaNyx on December 05, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
Actually, Mom's the one who suggested I see a therapist. She's been going to a therapist for several months now, since the major problems with my dad started.

Well you might talk about it with each other...
there might be a feeling of understanding and of love for each other if you talk about things that are important to you...
it can help getting closer and care for each other...
and after all women like to chat  :)

someone in another posting stated that as well..
its more likely someone is acceptive if you can share deep feelings and thoughts... if you have a feeling you can really talk to each other...
so working on that can help...


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