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My SRS with Dr Chettawut

Started by sashaburn, November 30, 2015, 04:36:31 AM

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sashaburn

Hi Girls,

I'll aim to get my list up today. I think I've remembered most things, but being an old thing sometimes I forget stuff (well, often really!!).

Keri, you asked about the internet here. It's been easy to connect (don't even need a password) and coverage is good through the apartment (I'm lying on my bed dilating while doing this  ;D). Generally it works pretty well, but it can be extremely slow at times and very frustrating for things like FaceTime and Skype which crap out or suddenly start "reconnecting", but it's certainly useable so long as you can stop yourself throwing your iPad or phone across the room when that happens  >:-). Honestly no prejudice here, but twice I've seen a lot of Chinese guests arrive and that night I might as well put FaceTime to bed its so bad. So, unsurprisingly performance is down to demand (I think everyone in the place probably saw a marked increase in speed when my sister, Fran, left!! :D).  Email has been no problem at all, so no need to worry about that.

Best thing you can bring with you to make sure internet works okay is patience!!
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AnonyMs

Regarding decent Internet, in my researches for Suporn I came across the 4G DTAC network as being a really good option. Get a data SIM at the airport. Its quite cheap and you can get lots of fast data for a month.

Here's a coverage map. I don't know where Dr Chett's place is.
http://www.dtac.co.th/en/network/coverage.html

I can't survive without Internet.
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sashaburn

I promised to provide a packing list for those of you scheduled to be down here so here it is.  Bear in mind that some of it relates to being in a Vertical Suite apartment and it may be different elsewhere.  Most of this came from MonkeyMel's suggestions with a few additions of my own:

1.   Toilet wipes – essential.  I brought 3 packs and wish I'd brought at least 4 because I can't for the life of me find any in the supermarkets.
2.   Baby/cosmetic wipes.  You can bring them, but not such a big deal because you can find them easily around here and Chettawut gives you some in his starter pack.
3.   Chargers/Leads/Plug converters.  After over 30 years of travelling this is something I've pretty much mastered, but for those of you just setting out, my advice is don't skimp, make sure you have enough of them.  You can buy them around here if you fall short though.
4.   If you want to access your local TV programming (like I do with the BBC), you might want to sign up to a proxy server service that gives you a VPN and makes it look like you're still in the UK/USA/wherever ...
5.   Panties.  Now this is pretty essential.  You can get a bunch of new, but perfectly good reject cotton panties on Amazon for a few £.  I ended up buying around 30, but 20 will serve you fine.  Don't go for nice big baggy ones on the assumption that you'll need loose clothing.  You want them to fit you normally and keep everything (i.e. pads) close, but choose something light.  If you have loads and use the washer/dryer machine here at Vertical Suite (it works well) then you can change regularly and without worry.
6.   Panty pads.  Chettawut provides you with a starter pack, but you'll get through these in no time.  You can also buy them here, but you're probably best advised to bring a pack or two with you anyway.  As a pre-SRS girl you're going to wander into the supermarket and look through shelves and shelves of different options – wings/no wings, light/medium/heavy, day/night my goodness the options seem endless and you have no idea what you'll actually need.  If you bought nice light cotton panties as suggested above, you just need the basic pads.  I brought Carefree with cotton extract (medium?) – they just appear to be the basic things – and they work great.  I brought some others (with wings just to be safe!) and they work ok, but they are way more than required in both size and cost.
7.   Food.  Thailand is very British in many ways and you can find lots of products you wouldn't have expected, but there's no harm in bringing some things like teabags, marmalade, jam or anything else you might crave during a month out here.  As an aside, isn't it weird that throughout the world you only ever really see Liptons English tea and yet you never see it in England?!
8.   Soap: grab a couple of bars of soap.  Sure you get the tiny little bars in your bathroom as standard and you can buy it here anyway, but if you're out shopping why not bring some with you?
9.   Intimate sensitive wash (I brought Vagasil), just gives you a little bit more confidence when you're cleaning up your new apparatus!
10.   Sudocream (baby nappy rash cream).  Bring a nice big pot.  Helps sooth you when you come back from the clinic with bed sores and, as an antiseptic cream, you will find plenty of other places to use it too, I've used it over my external stitches and it helps sooth them.
11.   Sun protection cream.  Again, you can buy it here if you need to.
12.   Clothes:
a.   Plenty of cotton panties (as suggested above).
b.   Loose cotton trousers.
c.   Loose light cotton skirts (make sure at least one is nice and long to hide the catheter when you have it).
d.   A few T-shirts and/or skimpy/strappy tops.
e.   Open shoes/flip flops/Berkenstock whatever.
f.   A fun and glam and sexy outfit and some wedges or heels.  You might not wear them, but you may well find you feel like wearing something like this sometime when you've jumped the final hurdle.  If you forget, there's plenty of great stuff to shop for across the road and it's cheap.
g.   One or two nighties, loose below the boobs, easy to put on and take off.
h.   Light dressing gown, I lived in mine for the first few days when I got back in the hotel and it protected the bed and the chairs from my sudocream covered back.
13.   Inflatable neck pillow.  This was something suggested by MonkeyMel and a good one.  Means you can pop it into your handbag and keep it available whenever you need it.  I've found that I can generally sit down okay if the seat is soft, but once or twice it's been a godsend to have this available.  It's much smaller than Chett's donut cushion and, as MonkeyMel says, you can just fill it partly to give you a different seating plan!
14.   Pencil/Paper – useful to make yourself a tick list to know you've taken the right drug at the right time.  Fran made mine and stuck it above my bed (and was a rigorous enforcer!).
15.   You might need earplugs – it can be quite noisy outside even very late at night, so if you're a light sleeper this could be a good idea.

I think that's about it.  You'll find that plenty of stuff can be bought down here and in many cases the same brands you're used to are available as well.  However, you'll also discover that just about anything here is the same price back home – food and clothes.  You can find plenty of cheap stuff in the markets and stalls which are dotted everywhere, but anything branded will be the same or maybe more, so it just makes sense to bring what you think you might want with you.

I would also suggest you grab a Thai SIM card when you arrive at the airport because they understand English much better there and quickly set everything up for you.  I went a little bit crazy and bought a 12 GB package for 3,000 Baht (£50) and have only used about 1 GB after being here 3 weeks, probably because a lot of my use has been over the hotel Wifi, so you don't need to go crazy and can always top it up if needed.

Finally, there is also the issue of lubricant gel.  Chett gives you a few in your starter pack, but trust me when I say you scream through the stuff.  I looked around for some more and couldn't find it easily (wasn't in the supermarket for some reason  ::)).  Nurse Sri told me they could supply 10 tubes for 720 Baht (£13 or $20) which is a pretty good deal and worth getting because I see that 12 tubes of KY on Amazon cost about £2 each.  No doubt it's in the shops somewhere here, but I took her up on the deal because I wasn't sure quite where and it was a good deal anyway.

If I think of anything else you might need to know I'll post it later.
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sashaburn

Day 24, Saturday 12th December.  Good day.  Dilation with number 2 wasn't so bad.  Chett seems to have his timing just perfect because number 1 was becoming quite easy.  Now it feels real easy relatively speaking versus number 2!

Nurses Sri and Noi came in and checked me out – all good still.  They have their one day off tomorrow which they really need because they work so hard.  I asked them about little feelings and the occasional itch I feel down there, apparently it's perfectly normal and everybody feels this.  Fact is, as others have said, you feel an itch, you know where on your body it is – but ...... – hang on! that bit isn't there anymore!  Well, it is, but it's now inside not outside and yes, you need to adjust and let your mind sort your body out, but it really is weird and takes some getting used to.

I just spent the rest of the morning catching up with some stuff I had to do until Khong came in to clean the place.  She laughed at the little feeding station I have set up for the ants.  I have a deal with them – they can come in and feed on the stuff I put there, but they are not allowed out past the barrier of washing up liquid that I've laid across the worktop or they DIE!!  I think they've got the message and it makes me feel better that I'm not causing mass destruction in their community – after all, this is a Buddhist country.

After Khong left, Tia came round with her auntie and friend, also from Tahiti and also trans.  They were both over for BA and had it done by walking into a clinic over here, no appointment and just 3 hours later walking out having had breast surgery – quick and cheap, can you believe it?!  They get anaesthetic, but just local so they sit strapped into a dentist's chair and watch the whole thing happen.  Very brave ladies in my opinion.  Both were beautiful and looked fabulous.  I checked their results – which looked amazing and I just hope stay that way for them – and they checked out mine.  I think it convinced them that they'll come back here and get Chett to do them too because they were very impressed by what he has achieved.  We went out for some lunch and talked a lot about experiences and hopes, excitement and fears, dreams and fulfilment.

Tomorrow no check-up, but Monday I have to be up early to have my post op check with Dr Chettawut.  I guess then I get an expert's opinion on the whole thing.  I'll be having nightmares about the metal things they use to check out the inside for the next two nights!  However, Nurse Sri seems to very happy with my progress so crossed fingers everything's good and I'm nearly ready to go home and see my Mother, Brother, Sister and friends – can't wait!
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EmmaD

Hi Susan,

Thanks so much for the list.  A couple of things were missing from my list.  Now all sorted.  Since my surgery is scheduled for 22 December, we are having a Christmas day today which will be nice.  Then I fly solo!

Seems you are almost cooked and ready to go home.  Well done you!

All the best and safe travels back to WINTER!

Emma
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Joi

Susan!  Your list is great.  Funny that you said not to buy over sized panties.  One of the other girls recommended this citing issues of discomfort.  I like your take.  Too loose and pads and liners wouldn't do their job.

Do you know if the vendors of the  "airport version" of a temp sim card are compatible with an Iphone 6?  The local ATT rep. said other sims cards wont work in this phone.

Thanks again!

Hugz!


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SorchaC

Quote from: AnonyMs on December 11, 2015, 10:23:10 PM

Regarding decent Internet, in my researches for Suporn I came across the 4G DTAC network as being a really good option. Get a data SIM at the airport. Its quite cheap and you can get lots of fast data for a month.

Here's a coverage map. I don't know where Dr Chett's place is.
http://www.dtac.co.th/en/network/coverage.html

I can't survive without Internet.


Chetts place and all 3 hotels are in the 4G 1800Mhz area I can attest to the quality of net using the phone because that's what I used. It works well in all locations you would need it unless you leave Bangkok on a trip.

Quote from: Joi on December 12, 2015, 06:19:42 PM

Do you know if the vendors of the  "airport version" of a temp sim card are compatible with an Iphone 6?  The local ATT rep. said other sims cards wont work in this phone.

Thanks again!

Hugz!


I am sure you will find it's not the phone brand or model that limits the use of other sim cards but the fact it is locked to a specific network that will stop the sim working. I'd advise asking an authorised apple dealer to unlock it for you and you'll be fine. If you cannot get an apple dealer to do it in the US I will be surprised if DTAC cannot do it for you. Maybe not at the airport but the store in Seacon Center will :)

Hope that helps

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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AnonyMs

I think I found Chett's place on google maps. Here's the street view

https://www.google.com/maps/@13.7099452,100.6273365,3a,34.8y,14.23h,88.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slQpQzZcJCbkDc21uyLyyGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Perhaps it might be useful if someone found the other places. A drive down memory lane for some I'm sure.
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SorchaC

Quote from: AnonyMs on December 12, 2015, 08:49:04 PM

I think I found Chett's place on google maps. Here's the street view

https://www.google.com/maps/@13.7099452,100.6273365,3a,34.8y,14.23h,88.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slQpQzZcJCbkDc21uyLyyGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Perhaps it might be useful if someone found the other places. A drive down memory lane for some I'm sure.


Yeah that's Chetts clinic :)

Do you mean the other surgery centers or Chetts Hotel?

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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AnonyMs

Hotels, shops, that kind of thing. Wouldn't you be interested before you went?
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sashaburn

Quote from: EmmaD on December 12, 2015, 05:57:02 PM
Thanks so much for the list.  A couple of things were missing from my list.  Now all sorted.  Since my surgery is scheduled for 22 December, we are having a Christmas day today which will be nice.  Then I fly solo!

Hi Emma,

I wish you the best of luck with your surgery - I really hope that you echo my experience and fly through it without any problem.  If my experience is anything to go by then you should just be excited and positive which I'm sure you are.  I look at myself everyday and just can't believe that it's happened the way it has and its DONE!  You're not far off now, get ready to spread your wings  8)

I am looking forward to coming back to winter ... not the grey skies, but feeling the sting of the cold doesn't sound bad after a month of oppressive heat with the only escape AC!

Keep your head up and look to the near the future.  Positive thoughts for you,

Susan
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sashaburn

Quote from: Joi on December 12, 2015, 06:19:42 PM
Susan!  Your list is great.  Funny that you said not to buy over sized panties.  One of the other girls recommended this citing issues of discomfort.  I like your take.  Too loose and pads and liners wouldn't do their job.

Do you know if the vendors of the  "airport version" of a temp sim card are compatible with an Iphone 6?  The local ATT rep. said other sims cards wont work in this phone.

Hi Joi,

The panties I bought off Amazon are thin light and cotton.  Here's the link http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00XUDTLPO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00
and I do think it makes sense to buy a size that fits.  Mine are so light it barely feels like I'm wearing anything.

Kind of the same with the pantie pads, I didn't find any reason for using the big one, but I suspect everyone's different and some may need the bigger type.  However, small ones will get you through I would think and then you can always get some more here, there's plenty of choice.

Re the SIM, I suspect that Sorcha is spot on and it's got nothing to do with the phone model and is more to do with the restrictions your service provider puts on the phone.  Her advice to get it unlocked before you leave is the best.  What I can tell you is that plenty of people use the iPhone 6 down here.

Good luck and think positive.  Hugs,

Susan
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sashaburn

Quote from: AnonyMs on December 12, 2015, 08:49:04 PM
I think I found Chett's place on google maps. Here's the street view

https://www.google.com/maps/@13.7099452,100.6273365,3a,34.8y,14.23h,88.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slQpQzZcJCbkDc21uyLyyGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Perhaps it might be useful if someone found the other places. A drive down memory lane for some I'm sure.

As I think I said in an earlier post, there's no question that Chett's clinic doesn't inspire!  Not only is it small and tucked between bunches of shops it's hard to find first time if you're on your own.  When you get inside, you instantly know that this isn't the Tardis! However, it is clean and nicely kept - and, most importantly, his results are the best.
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AnonyMs

Suporn's in a bigger place, but not a nice looking area. As you say, its the result that are important. We can always take a holiday another time.
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sashaburn

Day 25, Sunday 13th December.  Catching up day.  Didn't sleep well last night so ended up getting up late and just sitting on my PC.  Dilation number 2 was much easier today – quite surprising after only a day of it.  Still uncomfortable, but not nearly as much as yesterday. 

Khong came in to clean and said how much she's going to miss having me here when I leave.  She's a sweetheart and I'll miss her too.  We always have lovely, if stuttering, language limited chats and she's always so complimentary.  She and her colleague had another big giggle over my ant friends and their food hall – even took a picture!

Tia and David came in for a coffee because their key refused to open their door and they had to wait for the hotel to come and fix it.  They were planning a tourist trip tomorrow (which is their last day) and Tia was concerned that she would miss the nurse's visit.  She asked me if I had a mobile number for the nurses, which I don't, so I suggested that she call the clinic and see if she could get anyone because I've done that once before and was put through to Dr Chettawut.  We called – bear in mind it was 7pm on a Sunday night and their only day off – and Dr Chettawut answered and was very understanding with her.  Where else would you expect to get that level of service?

Nothing else to report.  I have to make sure I'm up early to see Dr Chettawut for my final check up tomorrow though.
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SorchaC

Hi Susan,

Good luck with today's trip to see Dr Chett, I'm sure you won't need it by the sounds of things. He'll be pleased to see you and hear how everything is going.

Quote from: AnonyMs on December 13, 2015, 12:21:15 AM

Hotels, shops, that kind of thing. Wouldn't you be interested before you went?


Here's the street view of the Rama

https://www.google.com/maps/@13.7365655,100.6325133,3a,75y,194.8h,81.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGmNs5r6oIAdo6rQeu8cqGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Turn right out of the hotel and walk about 400 yards and you'll come to a footbridge which is on the same map and over the footbridge you'll find Tesco Lotus. The development nearby is completed now and houses restaurants. The new building looks like the UK house of parliament.

https://www.google.com/maps/@13.7364262,100.6348766,3a,75y,63.39h,76.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUbSSb93MI6GM1zIMy0PNiA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Here is The Dusit Princess and you'll also see Seacon Square Shopping Mall. You will see the big R in the photo, That's Robinsons department store which is one of 2 supermarkets in there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@13.6974364,100.6472327,3a,75y,130.86h,84.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxCjZdcpWDn_6I9TN12QXtQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DxCjZdcpWDn_6I9TN12QXtQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D93.749565%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

If you follow on along the road past Seacon Square from the Dusit and look across the road you will find The Vertical Suites

https://www.google.com/maps/@13.6903072,100.6471588,3a,75y,291.96h,112.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssUFu93MCJT1m9VF5Y9vkLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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sashaburn

Day 26, Monday 14th December.  Today was final post-op check-up day with Dr Chettawut.  Started with dilation first thing in the morning which went very easily.  It rapidly gets better and easier.  Dome, the driver, picked me up at 10am and took me to the clinic.  I had to strip off (including all jewelry) and was then taken into the operating theatre, laid down on the operating bed, legs spread wide and strapped down – it felt like something bad was about to happen!  Dr Chettawut came in and sat down to check me out.  He explained that he would clean me with antiseptic and then open me up for inspection right down to the furthest reaches  :o  This is a two stage process, first one set of metal expansion thingys and then another – something I was anticipating would be painful or, at the very least, very uncomfortable.

Far from it.  Dr Chettawut was extremely gentle and very careful – no pain, no discomfort at all.  Sure, I could feel that something was going on up there, but that was all.  There was certainly nothing to back up the concerns I had been having.

His assessment – very good, skin taken well, healing great, no swelling.  I asked him to rate my healing progress on a 1-10 scale.  He said "what, score you?!", I said yes.  He said "almost 10" and both nurses put their thumbs up – wow!  ;D  He then rinsed me out with antiseptic – just felt cold, that was all – and that was it!  I passed the test  :laugh: Then I asked to have a chat with him before I left because I had a few questions:

1.   After it's become easy with the 1/2/3/4 dilations, can they be refined to 1/3/4 or 1/4 but keeping the same total time?  Bear in mind that using four of the things really extends the time required.  Answer: Not really, you should stay with the schedule, but after one year you can go with what feels right.
2.   OMG!  What do I have to after year one?  Answer, keep dilating daily, but you can use whatever numbers so long as you start with 1 and it doesn't have to be 3 times daily, once or twice is fine so long as you're maintaining depth.
3.   When can I exercise - stretches, running?  Answer: Stretch exercises okay after one month (so long as this doesn't involve spreading your legs), can start running, gently at first, after 3 months.
4.   How long before self-dissolving stitches go?  Answer: Around three months.
5.   I have very little sensation on the right side, will this come back and, if so, how long will it take?  Answer: Yes sensation will return, but will take around a year as the nerves grow back.

I then thanked him and his staff profusely.  He really cares and tries to do the best possible job he can with whatever your body has.  I told him that I was so grateful for everything he has done for me, I honestly feel he's fantastic, committed, talented, an artist and, above all, caring.  His staff are all also great, especially Nurse Sri.

I made one suggestion – that he set up some form of social meet-up site for his patients simply because being spread over three hotels, patients simply don't have the opportunity to meet up like they do at Dr Suporn's place.  He said he didn't feel he could do this on his main website and that an ex-patient used to run such a site, but that has been closed down.  He might do something with Facebook.

I said I was more than happy to give him my recommendation and he thanked me, but also said that he understood some people can be unhappy for many reasons and this was something he totally understood.  He refuses to judge or criticise any of his competitor surgeons and comes across as both professionally and emotionally committed to his work.  I had to hug him before I left.

So now, I'm free :angel:, I leave here in a few days and can't wait to get back home and see my family and friends.  The whole experience has been 10 times better than I had expected and so have the results.  It's been one year start to finish – FFS, BA and now SRS – done!  Am I dreaming?  I've flown through every operation, healed quickly and all with great results.  Part lucky, part genetics (thanks Mummy!), part positive attitude and part good choice of surgeons.  I might put a few more posts up on this thread in the future to give those who are debating how, where, what and who - some idea of what also to expect post-surgery, but I think this probably concludes my account of my experience out here with Dr Chettawut.  I wish all of you who are planning on coming out here for SRS good luck and I hope you get exactly the same results as I have  ;D :D ;D
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AnonyMs

Quote from: SorchaC on December 13, 2015, 05:22:59 PM
If you follow on along the road past Seacon Square from the Dusit and look across the road you will find The Vertical Suites

https://www.google.com/maps/@13.6903072,100.6471588,3a,75y,291.96h,112.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssUFu93MCJT1m9VF5Y9vkLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Wow, I see why they call them the Vertical Suites. Perfect name for a very odd looking building.
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Joi

Thanks so much Susan!

Will look for your footprints when I get there!

Have a safe trip home & Happy Holidays

Hugz,

Joi


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Butterflylover3

Congrats girl! You did it!! I am so happy for you. We are now children of Chettawut as Sorcha always refer too. Lol I am 2 months posted op and if u want to keep in touch. Let me know so we can share story and give each other advice. PM me.
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