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Is Body Beast's Sagi A Sexist

Started by Tristyn, November 17, 2015, 12:09:40 PM

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Tristyn

When I first began Body Beast I was living as female and this question arose within me after hearing some of the "coaching"(or insults targeting women, rather) statements he makes about a couple of his workout buddies. And this isn't even an uncommon occurrence in the sports world. But why, exactly, is this the case anyway? Why do guys have to undermine, degrade and insult femininity to such a degree that it makes my head hurt with unnecessary bs comments such as "You hear that, Barbie?!" or "I got the Beauties here!" or "This is the Beast workout! Not the girly workout!"

When I approached my passive-aggressive pops with this problem, he told me, "You will never understand what they really meant cause its a guy thing."

Besides the fact that what he said was a huge blow to my identity, even before coming out as trans, this disappointed me cause I am sure the majority of cis men are fed by the media and various, trashy influences on believing, thinking, feeling and acting "like a real man."

But, I swear, this way of believing, thinking, feeling and acting is just disgusting. :-\

~Nixy~
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sparrow

Quote from: King Phoenix on November 17, 2015, 12:09:40 PM
But, I swear, this way of believing, thinking, feeling and acting is just disgusting. :-\

Agreed!  This is why I'm so happy to be fleeing male culture!  Sorry... I don't get this about men either, and I lived as one for more than 30 years.  You can't take your pops seriously when he's on about gender.  He's clueless about this stuff.  Yeah, it's a guy thing, and you understand it perfectly: femininity is equated with weakness, so we have a billion terms (sissy, girly, pansy, etc.) in our language that drive that point home loud and clear.

If only men knew how strong a woman has to be to make it in the world.

Translation: "it's a guy thing" -- "I have so much privilege because I'm a man, that I don't even know what I'm saying."
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Asche

Quote from: King Phoenix on November 17, 2015, 12:09:40 PM
Why do guys have to undermine, degrade and insult femininity to such a degree that it makes my head hurt with unnecessary bs comments such as "You hear that, Barbie?!" or "I got the Beauties here!" or "This is the Beast workout! Not the girly workout!"

It's a male culture thing.  Men are raised with the idea that they need to "prove" their masculinity to other men no matter when or how often they are challenged, on pain of being ostracized and harrassed if they don't.  (Sort of like being a top gunslinger in the mythical Wild West of the USA.)  You can't just prove it once and rest on your laurels.   One cheap but effective way of "proving" one's masculinity is to put down women and any male who one can accuse of being tainted with femininity.  At some point, for most men, it becomes pretty much the only way they know how to relate to one another.  (This is why I gave up on men's groups, even before I started thinking of myself as trans.)

It's possible to feel secure enough in one's masculinity that one can blow off the demands to prove it, but it takes a lot of maturity and self-confidence, more than most men have.  It's also possible to be male and happy with it and yet not give a @#$% about masculinity, or at least not about other people's notions of masculinity.

So, yes, it's a guy thing, but it's not universal.  It's mostly an insecure, frightened guy thing.  Unfortunately, virtually all men seem to be insecure and frightened, at least if you dig deep enough.

And I'm not sure not understanding it is such a bad thing.  I don't know why some of my college classmates wanted to drink every Saturday night to the point of throwing up, and I'm not sure I want to, either.  The same with the compulsive misogyny.
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