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Started by Cindy, November 24, 2015, 02:50:28 AM

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Cindy

 I read this post

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,199601.0.html

And as usual got angry with the attitude of some of the medical profession.

I can change things in at least Australia, and through the RCPA around the world (I'm in an angry activist mode).

So send me FACTUAL incidences of how you were treated in hospital. Name the country, city, and what happened and why.

How did you feel? How did it affect you? Was your treatment affected?  Where your rights denied? Where you insulted, was it blatant or casual or accidental (if someone is cutting you out of a car wreck, the last thing on their mind in ER is what your gender is? They just work on a potential corpse).

What was the reason you presented, physical or mental? Emergency or routine?

So some facts please.

Good and bad.
I look forward to writing this paper and presenting it!

Cindy
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Jenny07

I was in hospital years ago for surgery on my shattered shoulder.

I had to wait 13 weeks before they could operate.
Saw a top surgeon and booked into a private hospital in Sydney.

Had an operation that was only 50/50 with a bone graft off my hip.
Not an easy operation.

I was zonked out for a good few days post op yet on the second night I overheard the nurses abusing me on the night shift.
They were slagging me off for not getting up on day one after the operation.
I did not appreciate it at all as it took a week to be able to walk and yes I was still in huge pain.
They did not even bother to find out what was done.
I put in a complaint the day I left.
I was in bed at home for another week so....
Also I still have a nasty skin rash from the hospital.

This was not gender related so take heart that the abuse is universal from some no matter what or how ignorant.
So long and thanks for all the fish
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CaptainxTatsuo

WARNING!! LONG STORY BRO's & GALS....

I remember back in 2013.
got into a nasty car accident,
was taken by EMS to the Hospital.
I passed as male and had been living
since 2007. The EMS saw me and addressed me
as a male. So they did right bless their hearts, I was
in a lot of pain and I needed that to help me
listen to them when they were telling me to
take deep breaths and not to hold my breath.
This was in New York, however I will withhold
the city. Anyway as I was wheeled out of the ems
I could hear distant chatter on the EMS radio.
The Hospital chats with the EMS people. So in this
chatter to my horror I could hear them say "We have no record on
file for the name with that gender." "Are you sure this is the name of the
patient?"  Basically it got even worse within a matter of 5mins it became comments
like "oh we found the name of the patient but it's ... a female not male."
They acted as if I intentionally lied or something. Then as I was handed over to
the hospital the EMS guy looked at me and was like.. "Next time
tell us your a female." I informed them that I was trans-men and they
were all like ohhh boy, and just looked at my confused. I hell did not end
there. As I was lifted on to a hospital stretcher.. I was whisked off to get stitches
then X-rays.(Ended up W/ 2 broken ribs). Anyway one of my nurses was nice, but
when they cut into my clothing to get to places I was bleeding from, she saw my packer
and was like "What is this" this is where the real hell started. I told her I would remove
it but it's going to cause me a lot more pain to lean up to remove it. You know what they
did for not reason, I mean the packer was not in the way. They cut the waist strap off.
I'm like are you kidding me. The doctor walked in and said well we don't lie about our
gender here, so as a female you don't need that *Thing*. Please be honest with us when an emergency is more important then a gender you wish to play as. I lost it and started screaming at him "I'm sorry I was born a freak, ya know a male like you but in a female body!!" The doctor turned around and snapped back "There is not such thing it's all in your head maam, accept it and move on!" I flipped the hell out to say the least, I mean
here I did try to explain when it came up that I was Transgender, I guess the medical
field has failed to get caught up with the medical terms that really matter. I was so mad,
that I started ripping off the heart monitor stickies and other medical crap that I was covered in. They were all like okay we are going to hold you down now. I'm like screw you guys you all jerks and haters!! Then get this...they grabbed a police officer and had him handcuff me to the stretcher!! Then they left for a sec. The bleeding stopped. Some other doctos/nurses came in and I got stitched up. They wheeled me away to get X-rays. The X-Ray Tech was nice and when I told him I was in a lot of pain he got a hold of another doctor to get an iv of dulatin? then after that it was all fuzzy as it was a drug to deal with pain and it made me sleepy and stuff.  I ended up falling asleep after the x-rays and don't remember much other then waking up in a room. There is a little bit of good news... I was told that with in an hour I will be asked to speak with one of the patient liaison officers. At first I thought I was in trouble for losing control. 30mins or so.. later... I noticed a nicely dressed man walk into my hospital room with some paperwork and a legal pad as well. He explained that he was a Patient Liaison. I explained that I was sorry for being rude with the doctors/nurses. He said I'm not here for that. The Doctor you had was transferred to another section. I'm like okay. He then said...he wanted me to make a statement of what took place and how I felt about this situation of me being trans and my treatment. He did inform me as well that the doctor I had was very conservative and that's why he made some of the comments he made. From what I gather one of the nice nurses who did not judge me... had reported this injustice and had told some big wig person and for that other doctor who was a jerk he got grilled on his failure to openly accept all patients and under this rule is LGBT people as well. I filled out the statement and next thing I notice is woman come in with a cuff key and finally hand cuffs were removed from me.  I was told that it was a misunderstanding and that the doctor told the police officer in the beginning that I was becoming combative, so that's why I was cuffed up.

So now for you questions:

How did you feel?
I felt like ****, I mean
in PG form I felt like I was being treated
like a freak, like I did this to mess with other
people. I felt very must worthless and had low
self esteem.

How did it affect you?
It interfered with my ability
to pass as male and to continue
living as who I identify as. 

Was your treatment affected?
My stitches, X-Rays and Pain meds, were
delayed due to that the doctor was bias against
me and LGBT kind. Also the fact that the one nurse
wasted time asking what the packer was between my legs
and then verbally degrading me and saying that I don't
need it and she ended up cutting the waist strap off.
This too away valuable time from my care.

Where your rights denied?
Yes, I feel my rights were
not honored nor was any real
caring shown.

However:
These people were nice...
Two nurses and the new
doc as well as the Liaison. 

Where you insulted, was it blatant or casual or accidental?
It was blunt and As if I changed my gender to mess or inconvenience
their day! I was just some sick perverted freak show they had to
deal with as I was bleeding and injured after the accident.

Sorry for the LONG...LONG... LONG story....But there you have it.
"TransMen"
Came Out: 2006
Living Full Time Since: 2007
On the T Train Since: Sept 28th,2015
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Sharon Anne McC

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CaptainxTatsuo:

Well, at least now I know that others write as well as I do.

Cindy:  Here is my real life event for your thread.

This happened Sunday night, approximately 11pm, 11 Dec 1999, while I was driving Northbound from Tucson, Arizona, to Phoenix, Arizona, on route Interstate 10.  A large tour bus rear-ended me twice and pushed me in my car into the desert.  My car flipt and rolled multiple times.  It was a 'hit-and-run' - the bus driver failed to stop at the scene.  Emergency used 'jaws of life' to cut open the roof of the car to lift me out.

EMS asked female-related questions to me so I told them that I am transsexual.  Suddenly I went from being wrapt in blankets that protected me from the cold night air to the blanket taken from me, my clothes being cut from me, and being stript totally naked on the stretcher.  Other EMT and emergency personnel were summoned to come take a look.  I begged the attendant to please cover me - that I am cold - he refused until others were satisfied they got a good look at me as I tried putting my hands over my private anatomy.

While naked on the stretcher, various EMT personnel repeated drew blood from my left arm - not with an implanted needle but with a new needle to a new site each time - at least six different times within 15 minutes or so.  They treated me as a human pin cushion.  I objected to the EMT and repeatedly asked them to install a single needle; they refused.  The police there told me that EMTs were taking my blood samples to 'prove' I was 'drunk' and 'drugged' - all a false accusation.  Since there was no bus driver to question and apprehend for his criminal assault against me, the police saw the scene as a one-car roll-over by an inebriated driver.

EMT allowed my separated right arm to dangle off the side of the stretcher.  I repeatedly begged for my arm to be restrained to ease the pain - EMTs refused - it dangled the entire trip to the ER (perhaps 30 minutes) and then some more time until I was eventually placed on an ER examining bed that supported my arm at the shoulder separation.

The air ambulance took me to Good Samaritan Hospital (Phoenix, Arizona).  ER doctors did a series of scans and examinations.  The doctors refused to re-set my broken clavicle - the worst of my multiple broken bones.  My skull required 11 wires to re-attach where it was cracked open (from the roll-over); I told the doctor what he was doing hurt me and asked for pain medicine, he refused.

I was eventually wheeled to my in-patient room sometime about 4.30 am.  It was not until another hour or so later that a nurse came to give a sponge bath to me to clean away the road debris and desert dirt.  That nurse was the first and about only decent medical personnel during my experience.  She was kind, carefull, gentle, and thorough.

I fell asleep about 6 am.  I awoke about 10 am and noticed that a police officer placed a traffic violation notice at my bed stand during my sleep.   At no time did any police ever speak to me about what happened - they simply issued their citation including charges that I was speeding, had no insurance, and was impaired.

Allow me to skip ahead about one year to finish this point.  News reports exposed that cop was a 'dirty' cop involved with an insurance scam led by the Chandler city chief judge and other police agencies; that chief judge was convicted of insurance fraud.  This expose explained why there was no investigation at the crime scene - none.  I write this with authority because I was employed as a risk management officer with the State of Arizona and I had intimate knowledge of the requirements of police agencies to conduct traffic scene investigations.  I returned to the scene on my own and videotaped the entire scene about one week later - still deep in pain but knowing that I had to do something to protect my legal and medical position.

The hospital ordered me discharged that Monday morning - less than 12 hours since the collision that nearly killed me. I was in no condition to go home alone but the hospital told me that my insurance carrier ordered my immediate discharge.

Follow-up care nearly cost me my liver and gall bladder - as I have posted here at other threads.  My medical scans documented severe liver, gall bladder, and intestinal damage among my internal injuries; my intestines emitted various colors of matter including green, blue, yellow, brown for several months.  I could not retain food - everything I ate literally passed right through me within minutes.  Come November 2000, I was still in agony at my abdomen.  I went to my medical clinic (I arrived and checked-in at 5.30 pm) to again seek relief.  Through the course of time and various tests and scans (after 12 midnight) doctors came to me in the exam room and told me that they made arrangement with the hospital to remove my liver and gall bladder right there and then.  I told them a flat, assertive 'NO!'.  Another 30 minutes later the doctor returned with a diet plan to restrict and avoid fats, oils, sugars, salts.  I asked why this plan was not provided to me as part of my discharge papers from December 1999 - I got no responce from the doctor.  I followed that dietary plan and my liver, gall bladder, and intestines finally healed - though it took perhaps six to eight years to realise that healing.

Now allow me to backtrack the time the doctor removed the 11 wires from my skull.  He took a pair of pliers and grabbed each one-by-one and pulled them out no different than if he was pulling a nail from a board.  I screamed in agony and begged for pain medicine; that doctor refused - he told me to deal with it.

Now then.  Can I prove all this mal-treatment was because I am transsexual?  Well, I did not exactly ask each and every one of those medical personnel if they did so.  I make that assertion based upon the fact of the way the EMT stript me naked in the desert and gathered around to see me.  I attended medical school (1981 - 1986) and worked in the medical community (1986 - 1990).  I know that the medical community claims to require better treatment than what they delivered to me.

There was no happy ending through the legal system either.  I went to a lawyer based upon a referral from a supposed 'friend'.  That lawyer gave an early impression to me that he was managing my case to seek damages from the bus company we found to have committed the assault.  But that effort went nowhere and the lawyer quietly dropt my case without informing me - though telling me all along that my case was moving forward.

The doctor who had been my primary care physician since 1985 and knew my personal medical history suddenly demanded that I take 'Paxil' and other dangerous psychotic drugs.  I refused. Sometime around 2001, that doctor sent a cold letter to me telling me to 'find another physician'.  It has been a rough go 'finding another physician' because of my multiple medical conditions - including my collision injuries and my transsexual matter.  I finally attained medical stability since mid-2013 - I went about a dozen years skipping through various doctors who would take me for short-term care only.

I can name names but will reserve that for a PM if you request it.  I can try digging for my medical records though I am not certain what I shall find considering that my home was burglarised and ransacked last year and the crooks stole my medical records as well as my work records with my SSAN and other vital information.

'How did you feel? How did it affect you? Was your treatment affected?  Where your rights denied? Where you insulted, was it blatant or casual or accidental (if someone is cutting you out of a car wreck, the last thing on their mind in ER is what your gender is? They just work on a potential corpse).'

I think I answered those questions well enough for now.  I can write a book - oh, actually I did by keeping a daily journal that is somewhere on a floppy disc.

My medical care was horrendous from start to conclusion, except for that one nurse who administered her bed bath to me.  I feel that I was mal-treated the entire time.  I learned in 2001 that my collision injuries make me un-insurable for either private health care insurance or life insurance.

I have no reluctance to write that my rights were violated so many times in so many ways - a 99% insult.

I was neither a corpse nor a life-or-death body in my destroyed car that December night.  I was awake and alert the entire time and needed valid emergency medical care, not their abuse.

Thank you for the opportunity to contribute to something greater that will help people in the future.

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1956:  Birth (AMAB)
1974-1985:  Transition (core transition:  1977-1985)
1977:  Enrolled in Stanford University Medical Center's 'Gender Dysphoria Program'
1978:  First transition medical appointment
1978:  Corresponded with Janus Information Facility (Galveston)
1978:  Changed my SSA file to Sharon / female
1979:  First psychological evaluation - passed
1979:  Began ERT (Norinyl, DES, Premarin, estradiol, progesterone)
1980:  Arizona affirmed me legally as Sharon / female
1980:  MVD changed my licence to Sharon / female
1980:  First bank account as Sharon / female
1982:  Inter-sex exploratory:  diagnosed Inter-sex (genetically female)
1983:  Inter-sex corrective surgery
1984:  Full-blown 'male fail' phase
1985:  Transition complete to female full-time forever
2015:  Awakening from self-imposed deep stealth and isolation
2015 - 2016:  Chettawut Clinic - patient companion and revision
Today:  Happy!
Future:  I wanna return to Bangkok with other Thai experience friends

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