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Started by CrysC, November 02, 2015, 08:40:17 PM

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CrysC

So today I changed my name and gender on my driver's license and with social security. 
This is so going in the "why are you happy today" mtf thread.

Anyhow, being being all pumped, I would have to say that I missed a few details in going to do this that I thought would be handy for others to know especially if you are doing this in Washington State.

First thing first.  There is an awesome group of people with a fantastically helpful site, Ingersoll Gender Center  http://ingersollcenter.org/
These awesome folks have a transitioning guide that has links to forms and all that jazz.  Still, I was a little dense and missed some stuff.  My male friends are of course taking liberties with any mental mistakes.

You will need a few things from your medical doctor.  It seemed I needed her rather than my therapist to do this.  Anyhow, your doctor has to fill out a form for your driver's license gender change.   You also need some letters from her that states you have completed transition and are approved for use of new name and new gender identity.  I got this stuff first just to have it ready to whip out.  That way if somebody starts with, "So you say you want to be a wom.." I could interrupt with a "Shazam!  Read this! Damn right I do!"  ok, so that didn't happen but I was ready...

1. District court name change order
- Petition for name change (http://www.kingcounty.gov/courts/district-court/name-changes.aspx) - costs $170 + $5 per copy.   Has to be cash.  Seriously.  It has to be cash.  lets do the time warp again.......
takes 6-8 weeks to record  at the recorder's office
- photo ID
- may need a copy of birth certificate I'm told, but I didn't.
This was pretty straightforward.  Get copies for things like social security, passport, birth certificate, framing, etc...  You have to get there ahead of a set time, ask the clerk to be added to the docket.  Hand over your cash and forms.  Then you wait.  You wait until the court hearing which for me 3 hours later.  At that time you sit in the court room and they call your name.  You swear to tell the whole truth, nothing but the truth etc...  The judge asks if you really want to change your name, confirms the info, and unless you do something stupid are done.  You go back out to the clerk and she gives you the court order. 

2. Driver's License update
- Approved district court name change order.  You need this from step 1
- Change of Gender Designation request DOL form.  This is the thing you needed your doctor to fill out that I mentioned before step 1
- copy of current drivers license
mail the above items to the address noted on the change of gender designation request:
Programs and Services, Driver Records
Department of Licensing
PO Box 9030
Olympia WA 98507-9030
So be warned that this takes like nearly 2 weeks, or rather it did for me.  If you are trying to schedule things I'd suggest you be sure to send this at least 2 weeks in advance of when you will need it.  So after the letter comes back, you take it to a DOL office with your current license and $10.  Bring along another copy of the court order.  Somehow the one I sent in the mail was not sufficient or maybe I didn't need to send it.  Anyhow, they didn't keep this second one I showed them but they needed to see it.  Then you get a paper print card and the real laminated one comes in the mail a week later or so.

3. Social Security - need to go to the social security office with the following docs
- letter from doctor that you have completed your transition
- court order for name change
- identity such as a driver's license with new identity.  IMPORTANT: they don't accept that paper print of your license that you get when you request a license update.  They only accept the laminated one.  If you don't have it yet, like I didn't, you can use a passport, even with the old name, or a birth certificate. 
- social security card - I didn't need this but it's recommended. 
So after you get through the process it can be a couple of days before the changes are reflected in the system.  I had hoped it was the same day.  I think it might be same day normally but the printers were busted at the office I went to.  After a week or so you will get a new card, or rather I will.  If you are also in this boat then IMPORTANT: take a piece of paper, write your new name on it, tape this name inside your mail box.  If you don't have this, your card won't be delivered. 
Also, and this caught me by surprise, I got in the car after everything and was suddenly so happy I teared up.  It was like I had permission to be me.  I'm still on the happy train. 

So there will be more to come for birth certificate and passport but I need my social security stuff first. 
Also, for you to change your identity with your employer you will probably need that new social security card.  I wanted to minimize the time where things were in flux but it appears I can't go quicker than a week. 

Anyhow, if that helps anybody, then awesome. 
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iKate

For the gender change form, here in NJ it can be your therapist too. My therapist signed my form. I actually did the gender marker change first and the name months later.

But actually in WA it appears as though the person signing doesn't have to be a doctor. It can be any of these:

Medical physician
Internist
Endocrinologist
Gynecologist
Urologist
Osteopathic Physician
Psychiatrist
Psychologist
Washington state licensed naturopathic physician
Washington state licensed advanced registered nurse practitioner
Washington state licensed physician assistant
Washington state licensed certified osteopathic physician assistant


But since the letter for social security and passport has to be from a doctor (MD or DO only), you might as well just get all of them from the same person.

Re: cash for the court. They require cash here too for copies. For filing our courts accepted a check. I sent a personal check via mail and I saved the canceled copy for my records with all my court papers.

My employer required my social security card to be updated before they could update payroll. However I was using the name for a while now while the court process was going on. IT updated my email address and phone extension.

The social security card is mailed from a central location, I think in Maryland. It isn't printed in the field office.

In NJ our driver licenses are printed in the local office so I walked out the same day with my license.

Anyway, congrats!!!
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CrysC

Thanks for the congrats!  Again back to you as you just went through it.

My employer told me today that I can use the letter I got from social security that says that I am processed and in work to get my changes there.  That is great as I really want to get my badge updated.  It's like the last thing that jumps out in daily life that is wrong.
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gamerchic_kaylee

Congratulations with getting it all done, and thank you so much for going into great detail with the process.  I live in Washington and your specifics will come in handy when I need to go through this whole process.

Government ... never make anything easy :)
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ThaliaNyx

Quote from: CrysC on November 02, 2015, 08:40:17 PM
You also need some letters from her that states you have completed transition and are approved for use of new name and new gender identity.

By "completed transition", do you mean that we have to have gone through SRS before we can get those changed?
Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long, till I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: ThaliaNyx on December 13, 2015, 07:51:21 PM
By "completed transition", do you mean that we have to have gone through SRS before we can get those changed?

No. SRS is not required for either the WA d/l or the SocSec.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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CrysC

Yea, "completed" means that your doctor wrote you a letter that says that you have completed transition.  It doesn't represent surgical changes or such. 
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ThaliaNyx

Quote from: CrysC on December 14, 2015, 11:46:57 PM
Yea, "completed" means that your doctor wrote you a letter that says that you have completed transition.  It doesn't represent surgical changes or such. 

So what does it represent?
Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long, till I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on
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CrysC

Quote from: ThaliaNyx on December 16, 2015, 11:22:18 AM
So what does it represent?

Fair question.  The answer can vary with the doctor but for me it meant that I had been on hormones for a decent period of time (> 1 year), and have moved into living in my chosen role. 
It didn't mean that I was surgically altered or that I had no further plans to effect any more changes.
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ThaliaNyx

Okay. So, basically, I'll want to wait until about this time next year, since I'm hoping to start HRT within the next couple months, and I'm starting to gradually dress more feminine full-time. (I'm wearing women's jeans and putting my hair in a ponytail, and in a couple weeks I might start painting my nails or something.)
Anyways, thanks for the information!
~Thalia
Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long, till I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on
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