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Started by Angel On Acid, September 30, 2007, 05:35:56 PM

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Angel On Acid

I don't really know where to begin, but i'l start by telling about my life. I've probably missed things out, but it's hard trying to say how I feel. If you've any more questions just ask me and i'l answer them. I'm also sorry for it being so long, but i'd really appreciate your help.

When I was little, I don't think I felt like this. I didn't really understand the concept of gender at all. I think I remember wanting to play with girls toys - when I was walking to school with my mum and brother one day, I saw a boy with his mum, and he had a doll in a push chair. I thought to myself "wow - if he's got one it's okay for me to have one!". It really hurt me when my mum and brother were laughing at him because of it. That's the only thing i can remember, probably because it hurt so much.

When i recognised I felt different I told myself different reasons - one time I believed it was because I was a girl in my past life. I don't know how old I was, or when I started doing it.

I'l skip ahead to when I was about 15 or so. I met a friend on the internet via a forum. She's transgendered also, and she's helped me alot with it. I'm so happy i've met her, and to be honest I don't know what i would have done without her. She talks to me as a girl, and calls me Amy. She makes me feel feminine, and helps me generally. I do the same to her too. She's the only one that does it, and it means so much to me.

When I admitted it to myself, it hit me hard. By this time, I had a girlfriend who I talked to on the internet. You can think it's pathetic, but you can't choose who you fall in love with, and we're so deep in love. Apart from school, my days are just spent on the computer talking to her, and she does the same. I told her about it, and it affected her alot. She split up with me, because she couldn't love me as a girl, and she wouldn't like it if i cross dressed. I don't want to hear about how awful she is, because she feels so guilty about it. She helps me alot too; she shows me that being a boy makes her happy, and more than anything, that's what I want. If she wanted to kill me, I would let her. I don't want to spend too long on this, so i'l just say that eventually I learn to cope most of the time and everythings hunky dorey. What i'm really proud of was that i bought myself a bra. I felt so feminine in it, but i threw it away, because my girlfriend didn't like it (althought she did let me do it). I plan on spending a long time with her, and i'm going to meet her in about a month or two.

About ten months ago, I told my mum how I felt. She didn't take it very well. She cried and told me I was a disappointment. Even now, she can't stay in the same room with me, talk to me, or look at me. All she ever does is talk to me like crap. I told my dad about it about 2 months afterwards. He took it alot better, and said he wants to help. He said that i'll always have a home here if i get a sex change, but he doesn't know whether i'll be accepted in the household. I have a sister who's 9 who i'm really close to, and a brother who's 15 who i'm getting closer to.

About five months ago, I decided to buy some anti-androgens off the internet for myself. It was a huge relief not to be scard anymore about becoming more masculine; I could actually sleep. It was more difficult for me to get an erection. It was just so nice. When I was out, my dad looked through my school bag, and found the pills. He told my mum, and she cried. My dad was angry at me, and talked to me about it in the car. He made me promise not to take them anymore, and I did. I still haven't taken any. It was a huge shock to go from anti-androgens to nothing, and it took me a long time to be able to cope again.

About how being transgendered makes me feel - I can't look at my body...I don't ever look at it in the mirror. It just looks so wrong...I look like a girl with a huge cock. Even having a bath is so hard, everytime I have one i want to cry. When I dream and I can tell how I look, I am a girl. I find it really hard to go outside, and face the world as a boy - i'm so ashamed. I can't think of what else to say about it - I'm find it really hard to put into words.

Life has come to a point where I just can't cope anymore. It's not so hard when i'm at the computer, but elsewhere, like at school, it is extremely tough. The only way I can do it is to get totally drunk or get stoned, but my girlfriend doesn't like that, and nor does my friend. Everytime I get sober I just feel like I want to cry. My grades last year were terrible - C,E,E,E. I only managed to scrape in last year. They were gonna kick me out, because I didn't get the required grades, but after a meeting with the deputy head they let me. I just don't know how i'm going to improve my grades feeling like this. I feel so divided in my uniform. I hate how everyone sees me as a boy, and talks to me like a boy. I hate it when they call me "Pete" constantly. When I'm away from the computer I want to cry all the time. I'd also like to also hear your opinions on my life, some advice on how I can cope now, and just anything else you want to say.

If i've missed something out, i'l edit it in tomorrow, i'l also read through it tomorrow - i've got to go to bed now! I spent about 45 minutes typing this, it took longer than i thought!

Thank you ^_^
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shanetastic

I'm really sorry about everything that's going on in your life.  I can't really offer that much advice, except maybe the fact that you should try to get a therapist or someone you can talk to.  I know you probably won't at this moment because you feel like crap, which is totally understandable, I can relate entirely to you.  But, if you want to get anywhere along on this process, your going to need to get a therapist eventually.  Maybe if you talk to your dad about it he'll let you get one. . . or if your old enough you can always get one on your own.

Just don't give up, things will always get better, hopefully.  I know optimism isn't exactly the best thing in a time like this when everything sucks, but just try to get by for the time being.  I hope everything gets better in your life eventually.

Best Wishes
trying to live life one day at a time
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Berliegh

Quote from: Amy on September 30, 2007, 05:35:56 PM
When I was little, I don't think I felt like this. I didn't really understand the concept of gender at all. I think I remember wanting to play with girls toys - when I was walking to school with my mum and brother one day, I saw a boy with his mum, and he had a doll in a push chair. I thought to myself "wow - if he's got one it's okay for me to have one!". It really hurt me when my mum and brother were laughing at him because of it. That's the only thing i can remember, probably because it hurt so much.

It's sad that stereo types are forced upon us at such an early age and instead of trying to undersand the boy with the doll in the push chair, he is laughed at......why? This was his natural instinct and he will be taught this is wrong or immoral......the whole stereo typing thing stinks......

I remember when I when younger as a 10 year old child.....being made to wear a little boys suit for a relatives wedding......I ripped it off and threw it on the floor....the more I was inforced into doing male things.....the more I would react and become annoyed which lead to all kinds of child psychology and questions.....is this kid ok? 

By the time I was 12 or 13 I pleased myself in the way I was androgenously dressed and how long I wore my hair.......I stuck to my true self no matter how much bullying I got....

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tarasita

Dear Amy

Do you mind me asking how old you are?

I can totally relate to your situation on some accounts.. on others... not so much.

Please ignore any questions that may be too personal to answer.
Do your parents live together? If not, do you have the option to live with either? If your father is the supportive one, are you able to get him to help you? It is important for you to speak to a gender specialist about your situation, it is the only way. I fear that you will only dig yourself deeper into frustration if you do not.

Personally I feel it is important to surround yourself with people who are supportive. Forgive me for being direct but do you think your girlfriend is supportive of your situation?

In regards to your education, you need some serious motivation. If you are able to get the support you need it will become easier. If your intention is to become a woman, you want to become a damn good one. There are very many sucessfull TS women (http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/TSsuccesses.html) out there and it can only be done with hard work. I only wish I could turn the clock back a bit and go back to school myself.

I truly hope you are able to work through this, you deserve it. Just remember that you are not alone. Stay in touch and let us know how you go. I'm sure you will find a lot of support on these forums.
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Angel On Acid

Thanks for all the replies! At school I was worrying that no one would say anything, so thank you.

I'm 17, and i'm doing my final year at school.

Yeah, my parents do live together. However, I would prefer not talking to them about it anymore. I'll give you two examples of how they act about it. I've been biting my nails as long as i can remember, however in the last month or two i just stopped. I let my nails grow, and after a while I say how feminine they looked, so i left them long, because it was just nice to look at them and stuff. My parents saw how long my nailsand just totally exploded at me. I explained to them that I can't remember having nails before, so i just want to experience it (that was partly true). They said to cut them before i go back to school; at this point it was the summer holidays. For two weeks they constantly screamed at me about them "you look f**king poofy!" "you'll get the f**king p*ss taken out of you!". Eventually, I ended up in tears in my Dad's arms. Another example is when I was going to a school tip. My mum got my pink washing up gloves, so i could put my hands in dirty water.

"You got him the wrong ones", my Dad says.
"I don't care...they're just washing up gloves?", I reply.
"You can't enjoy wearing pink >_< You're a boy >_< Boy's don't wear pink >_<"

It's always like that, and i hate it.

I've been to councelling before when my Dad found cuts on my arm (this was like two years ago), and it didn't help. I went again to talk about being transgendered, and I found it made things worse.

What I really want is to be with my girlfriend. I want to be able to cope, and i'm so scared I won't be able to. If how i'm doing now is anything to go by, i'm definately not going to be able to cope. Maybe you could talk about your opinions on how it is when you're older? I'm really scared of turning 18, and becoming a man.
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Jessie_Heart

Quote from: Amy on October 01, 2007, 09:32:16 AM
Thanks for all the replies! At school I was worrying that no one would say anything, so thank you.

I'm 17, and i'm doing my final year at school.

Yeah, my parents do live together. However, I would prefer not talking to them about it anymore. I'll give you two examples of how they act about it. I've been biting my nails as long as i can remember, however in the last month or two i just stopped. I let my nails grow, and after a while I say how feminine they looked, so i left them long, because it was just nice to look at them and stuff. My parents saw how long my nailsand just totally exploded at me. I explained to them that I can't remember having nails before, so i just want to experience it (that was partly true). They said to cut them before i go back to school; at this point it was the summer holidays. For two weeks they constantly screamed at me about them "you look f**king poofy!" "you'll get the f**king p*ss taken out of you!". Eventually, I ended up in tears in my Dad's arms. Another example is when I was going to a school tip. My mum got my pink washing up gloves, so i could put my hands in dirty water.

"You got him the wrong ones", my Dad says.
"I don't care...they're just washing up gloves?", I reply.
"You can't enjoy wearing pink >_< You're a boy >_< Boy's don't wear pink >_<"

It's always like that, and i hate it.

I've been to councelling before when my Dad found cuts on my arm (this was like two years ago), and it didn't help. I went again to talk about being transgendered, and I found it made things worse.

What I really want is to be with my girlfriend. I want to be able to cope, and i'm so scared I won't be able to. If how i'm doing now is anything to go by, i'm definately not going to be able to cope. Maybe you could talk about your opinions on how it is when you're older? I'm really scared of turning 18, and becoming a man.

I can relate to alot of this my dad was so into the macho BS that I wasn't even allowed to jump rope because it was a girl thing to do. once i got out of his house I was scared to be myself because all I had ever known about how i would be treated was meanness and hurt so I continued the male act that had saved me from his anger and I left that shield in place way too long. once you turn 18 you will have alot of options of how you decied to live your own life I can not tell you what the right thing to do for you is. what I can tell you is that hiding who I was from everyone has hurt me so bad I never felt as though I had any friends no matter how many people I had in my life because none of them knew the real me and how can you be someones friend if you don't even know them? I have learned that to live in fear is to allow the fear to control you and if you hide to save yourself from the closed minded people of the world then those people win for that is what they want you to do. they don't care who you truely are or how you really feel they just want you to fit the mold that they have set for you. you will have to find what makes you happy and whatever that is do it for if you can not thrive for your own happiness what is the point to any of it?
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Ms Bev

Hello, Amy.  Welcome to Susan's!
I'm an old lady to you, but can understand what you're going through.  My therapist and doctor have diagnosed me as classical mtf transsexual.  In my male life, I was not much of a cross dresser, though I did like the feel of women's stockings on my legs, and ocassionally tried on one or more of my wife's blouses.  Mostly, I wanted....no.....needed to see how they felt and looked, not how they aroused me, although there was an element of excitement about it.  I suppose the potential danger of discovery played a part in that excitement. 

So, now, as I write this, I am a woman, I have the body of a woman, with longish nails, and a woman's bobbed haircut.  I was born with a female brain, or, at least parts of my brain that are female were well developed.  Some of us are just born that way.  No 'accident', just diverse nature at work.
I dress as a woman, live as a woman, work as a woman, eat sleep and drink as a woman.  When I dream, I only dream as a woman.  I will forever sit to pee.  I can never go back, ever.  Some call this a choice, and the rest of us understand that there was never really any choice.

I would like to talk about a few important things, things you should be aware of.  First, if you start taking anti-androgens again, no matter what, do not stop them suddenly.  It can be very dangerous.  If for any reason you must stop them, taper off over at least a week's time.
Secondly, be sure of your desire.  If you eventually make changes to your body, many of them are irreversible. Thirdly, look for professional help.  You need a therapist.  Maybe your dad will get you to one.  Who knows, maybe he'll think you'll be 'cured' of your desire to experience things that are female.  In any case, try very hard to get that help. 

Another thing I would like to mention is that at your age, an internet relationship can seem like it is your whole life, your whole real life.  And then, in the blink of an eye, it can change.  So, what I'm saying, Amy, is at this time of your life, the most important person has got to be you.....Amy.  It's hard to do anything for anyone else just now, because you have to do some important things for yourself first.

A good, safe place to talk to people who understand you is here, at Susan's.  I'm glad you found your way here.

I wish you all the best!



Miss Beverly

1.) If you're skating on thin ice, you might as well dance. 
Bev
2.) The more I talk to my married friends, the more I
     appreciate  having a wife.
Marcy
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ketti

Quote from: Beverly on October 01, 2007, 08:48:21 PM
Another thing I would like to mention is that at your age, an internet relationship can seem like it is your whole life, your whole real life.  And then, in the blink of an eye, it can change.
That is certainly nothing that's limited to internet relationships!

Also Amy, you said you didn't want to talk to your parents about this anymore? I kind of think talking with your parents is the best thing to do (although i suck at it). But I certainly don't know your parents, if i had your parents maybe i wouldn't want to talk to them either. If you're not gonna confront them i only see two alternatives:
1. Act along with their wishes until you can move out on your own.
2. Act behind their backs (for example by taking up anti-androgenes again or/and talking to doctors and stuff)
Are you ok with any of 1 or 2? Do you see any other alternatives? Personaly i would want to talk to them, but if i can't do that i would prefere alternative 2, and if i can't do that either i might not have any other choice but alternative 1 (or wait lets add an alternative 3: being a mayor pain in their asses. I really HATE just going along with people i feel treat me badly! Being a parent is no exuse!). But yeah, alternative 1 suck i think. What about you?
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kalt

Amy, if you come back to this topic,

Please do not self medicate.  Kids like us are young but we represent the next generation of transsexuals.  Not only is self medicating risky from the get go when you buy from an untrusted supplier, you don't have any blood work to know what's up with your body, and you don't have the health monitoring that is in place for your safety.  As many members can tell you, even with the close care of a PROFESSIONAL, they've had some bad consequences from HRT.

If you self medicate, then you're not going to the professionals.  If we don't go to the professionals, there isn't a demand for transsexual services.  If there isn't a demand, there will be no supply.  We need to rely on them otherwise the opportunities afforded us to realize our dreams will vanish.

Self medication is a poor example to others who might look up to you.  Just as you looked up to someone at one point Amy, who knows who in this world you might encounter that you could significantly impact?  It's better to impact someone with the right choices than with the wrong ones.

As far as your girlfriend goes, let me lay this out to you.  She isn't your enemy, but she is opposing your transition.  Things like this happen all the time, when the efforts of one dream are opposed due to the efforts of another dream.  You need to decide which is more important to you, your identity, or your teenage love.

Best of luck Amy,
Kalt.
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tarasita

Hi Amy

I FULLY agree with kalt that you should stay away from self medication. I have seen examples of how that can go very wrong. They aren't prescription drugs for nothing.

On the girlfriend issue I don't really know what to say. You said initially that you didn't want anything negative said about her, and I don't think that is anyone's intention either. Just a thought... considering the hard times you are going through at home, i.e. feeling that support is non existent, is it the kindness and closeness that you find appealing with this girlfriend? If so, do you not find it annoying that she is on your parent's side when it comes to support? She seems to be fine with you as long as you stay the way you are but isn't happy for you to express your inner self, just like your parents.

Please keep us informed of your situation.
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kalt

Quote from: tarasita on October 02, 2007, 07:35:55 AM
On the girlfriend issue I don't really know what to say. You said initially that you didn't want anything negative said about her, and I don't think that is anyone's intention either. Just a thought... considering the hard times you are going through at home, i.e. feeling that support is non existent, is it the kindness and closeness that you find appealing with this girlfriend? If so, do you not find it annoying that she is on your parent's side when it comes to support? She seems to be fine with you as long as you stay the way you are but isn't happy for you to express your inner self, just like your parents.

Please keep us informed of your situation.

Yes, that's right.
And just because it's love, doesn't mean it's THAT love.
If someone can't accept you for who you are, don't share your life with that person.  It's a recipe for disaster.
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Angel On Acid

I will be coming back to this topic, because I just really need help; i can't cope at all right now. I can't post on the forum as often as i would like, because my computer is downstairs, and most of the time people are in here, however I read this forum often from my PSP.

I do talk to my dad, just never about being transgendered. I never talk to my mum anymore, as i've explained in my previous posts.

When I said my dad stopped me taking them, he did understand that i needed to be let off them gradually, and decreased the dosage over about two or three weeks.

I don't know about self-medicating again, though. I was going to wait untill I'm 18, and then i'd be an adult. At that age I should be able to take them without my parents permission, right? The thing is, I asked my Dad about taking them, and he said no. Even after he found them, he said he's not giving permission. My Dad also thinks that it's a phase i'm going through, since I never showed any signs of it when I was younger. I think it's unfair though, because like at that age I just didn't understand gender at all. He's also said he thinks that i've just looked on the internet "oh...I feel like that and that...i must be transgendered!". As ashamed as I am of being a boy, i'm really ashamed about being transgendered in front of my parents, and I really don't want to hurt him.

People say that they'll go through torture for their partner. They say that they'll do anything for him or her. That's what i'm doing. I wasn't planning to transition, but i don't know now. I thought I could do it, but since i've gotten back from the summer holidays i'm not coping very well.

Could you give me any advice on going outside? I find it so hard going out and facing the world as a boy.

Thank you so much for all your responses, it means so much to me.

Amy xx
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ketti

You need to talk to a therapist (i don't think you have done so?). If you want start hormones when you turn 18 you need a therapist who knows your situation to get the right prescriptions as well as referals to the right doctors who can make sure everything goes right. And regardless of that, just talking to someone who doesn't get angry just because you say "the wrong thing" will help you think clearer. Also, bringing your father to a therapist meeting would be great. It is one thing when just you say something. It is another thing when a "respectable adult" says it too :)
As for finding the right therapist to talk to, i'm afraid i can't help much. There are therapists who specialize in gender issues. If you can find one of those it would be great. But there might not be one close where you live, or they might be overloaded with work. Or they might be hiding ^^. An ordinary therapist should be fine too at first. They should be able to be able to refere you to specialists as required. (i hope, living in sweden i am just guessing how it works were ever you live ^^')
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tarasita

Quote from: Amy on October 02, 2007, 02:08:59 PM
Could you give me any advice on going outside? I find it so hard going out and facing the world as a boy.

Hi again Amy

If you decide to go outside dressed as a female, please make sure you do it in an environment you know you will be safe in. Personally I think it's probably best to gradually add femaile elements to your person when going out. Maybe start by wearing items of clothing that nobody can see.

Do you have any good friends you hang out with (not internet friends, "real" ones :)). Do any of your friends know about your situation? I'm sorry to ask so many questions but sometimes we need to know more about you to be able to answer your questions or suggest what to do. If you have a few friends, maybe you could get them together and organize a "crossdresser" party where everyone swaps gender. A perfect opportunity to dress as you feel you want to.

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Seshatneferw

Quote from: Amy on October 02, 2007, 02:08:59 PM
Could you give me any advice on going outside? I find it so hard going out and facing the world as a boy.

One thing to consider is why you find it so hard. Which aspects of being a boy are the most difficult to accept, and what would you prefer instead? For instance, how important is it to get rid of
1) having to behave like a boy
2) having people see you as a boy
3) having the body of a boy

It sounds like your parents -- at least your mother -- have pretty strict views of how a boy or a girl should behave. Growing up in such a family, it may be difficult to see the difference between the need to express female personality traits, the need to have a female role in society and the need to have a female body. They are all different, though, and at the point you are this difference might be important.

Considering your father's reaction to HRT, at the moment there's not much you can (or at least should) do about the last point. This still leaves the first two. Regarding the second one, a further question is whether you really want to be seen as a girl or just not obviously as a boy; the latter might be easier for your parents to accept. I'd suggest you to start with the first one, though, as in some ways it is the easiest, even if in others it can be the hardest. It certainly kept me going for something like twenty years (but then, my circumstances were rather different from yours).

I suppose the bottom line is, don't just feel, but instead try to figure out what exactly, how and why you feel. That could help with forming an overall campaign plan. As for actually going out, Tarasita's advice is good. Start slow and take care to keep yourself safe.

Good luck,

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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