Equal rights activists, can they go too far?

[Deborah]

I do not believe that it is proper to assume that individual Republicans, Conservative Christians, etc. are bad people or badly motivated just because they fit into these groups, or at least not necessarily more so than individuals from any other group of people.

i believe that they share in the blame because they support the groups that do the harm.  You don't get to belong to and support a group that actively campaigns for and enforces discrimination and then claim lily white innocence.  If there really were this huge number of "good" people in these groups and they actually acted on their conscience and left the groups then those groups would lose their influence and fade into irrelevancy.  But they don't leave and their presence give the groups and their toxic beliefs legitimacy.  So yes, they share in the responsibility.


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[Adena]

Deborah i think that's too harsh. I believe there are moral problems in liberal, conservative, etc. churchs so by this standard one couldn't be a "member of any of these groups. Please PM me if you would like to discuss this in greater depth.

Love,.
Denali

[Deborah]

Deborah i think that's too harsh. I believe there are moral problems in liberal, conservative, etc. churchs so by this standard one couldn't be a "member of any of these groups. Please PM me if you would like to discuss this in greater depth.

Love,.
Denali

Yes, I thought about it hard after reading your post and it was too harsh.  So, I'm backtracking on the part about Christianity.  I cannot find any good justification for my former argument mainly due to the extremely fragmented nature of Christianity in America.  There really is not one Christianity to belong to but rather a multitude with competing theologies and political beliefs.

Political parties are different though.  Since the purpose of the party is to advance specific agendas, belonging to that party is giving implied consent.  And yes, no party is ultimately good and no party is pure evil.  So one just needs to decide what issues they find so repugnant that they can not be associated with and join the opposition.  But whichever party a person belongs to, they own what that party represents.  There is always the option of not voting at all but that simply makes you irrelevant.

I'm not coming from a lifetime as a far leftist either.  I used to be a steadfast Republican.  This really goes back to my childhood in the late 60s and early 70s in a military family.  My father went to Viet Nam and what was ingrained in my mind at that time was the Democrats were the ones who hated my father and threw things at him.  Additionally, my father was extremely anti-racism and brought us up the way.  At that period of time the democrats were the party of racism where I lived.  That all changed in the 1980s when the Southern democrats became republicans.  Then there is the contribution of the trans thing where I spent a long time building my avatar to suppress myself and while my avatar was very effective for a while, its effectiveness was built on extremes.  Anyway, now I'm at the point where I view the Republican policies as more evil and destructive than the democrat policies.

And as a conclusion, classifying these things as good and evil to me are just a convenient way of thinking about them at the macro level.  At the micro, individual person, level I do recognize that there are good people supporting bad things everywhere.  So, in my personal dealings with people their religion or political party is not a concern.  Rather their personal attributes like decency, integrity, and others is what drives my judgement.



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