First negative reaction

[windlep]

Ah, I know some people don't like the term disorder, people with Aspergers say the same thing, they're "different not disordered". I understand that point of view, and agree to an extent, but having a mismatching brain and body causes us distress (dysphoria), which I take to be the disordered part.

[carissajaye]

I completely agree with you save one thing. God made our soul and our body. It was created in his image. He doesn't make mistakes either... I don't think he made a mistake with either one of us or anyone trans for that matter. We are unique on his eyes and he has created ways for us to be complete. Gender means nothing to God, if it did the angels would have a gender and they are not male or female. I believe gender was introduced to humans in the garden of eden when Adam and eve sinned... until then they had glorified bodies and had no need for it... just like we will have glorified bodies when we die.

The bible is the word of God and I believe what it says but even Jesus said that when he came to earth and died, he fulfilled prophecy and the old ways were done away with. That means that most of the ammo/scripture that is hurled at us is not important but not necessarily relavant since the coming of Christ. The new testament speaks about not judging and Christians forget that their action judge just as much as their words... sometimes more.

There is an interesting passage that I always refer to in Matthew 19 where Jesus speaks about the eunuch. Here's the kicker... the passage makes sense to me as I am sure it will to you without so much of an interpretation. Jesus says to those who will understand, they will understand. Everyone else can skip over it because it doesn't apply to them. Take a look, maybe you've seen this passage, maybe not but it bears sharing. These verses can be very broad but they still make a point.

11 Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

I wish Christians would understand that this is not something we chose or something we can easily turn off. I struggled for a long time thinking I was failing as a Christian because the devil was tempting me and I was succumbing to sin when that wasn't the case at all. Gender is a man made subject and our soul just doesn't align with the outer shell. What's it matter anyway? Eventually it will be dust anyway!?!? So in reality what are we changing?

I too believe whole heartedly that God is on board with my decision to transition but it's taken me a long time to understand it and have faith that it's true. This is just my perspective... God speaks to each of us differently

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My gosh wow, are you my other self? I totally get you; so much in fact I feel what you wrote would be something I'd say myself although not as eloquent. We are sisters in Christ, that much is sure. THat being said...

I belive after all that God doesn't care what our gender is (Galatians 3:28). I believe He has all these souls that He  wants to put into His favorite creation (humans). After all He created them in His image. When you and I die, what goes to Heaven for judgement? I believe that it is our souls. I believe that Christ will judge and recount our lives (revelation) from birth to death. How sobering is that? But sister, He will see Christ instead of our depraved selves for we believe in Emmanuel.

Its thick material, that is sure. All I know is if i were to lead an all male-life, that is semi-shaved head with a pickup truck, facial hair, guns a plenty, and a super conservative attitude, not caring about anything pretty but my beautiful wife by my side that I command every part of life... I would be the most arrogant, judgmental (not allowed) this side of New England. I would not care about God, I would actually side with Satan in many ways, judging everyone and secretly hating myself as a ferverent alcoholic and everyone else...

Or I can love love love myself and others, and GOd. Believe me I've prayed for God to take this GD ->-bleeped-<- away but it doesn't work for me. I'm still 90% masculine. Iv'e been divorced and dumped. Believe me if there was a pill to take all the feminisms away and for me to be all man I'd take it. But this isn't The Matrix. Its real (not allowed) life. There are no undos, no reset buttons, no 1UPs. Either we prosper or we're <not allowed>. Yea I'm drunk but my grammar is still decent. I'm pissed off that I'm this way. Thank God almighty cancer isn't the issue (yet) or worse. How can I serve Him while angry? I can't!!! Oh Jesus my Savior the only way I can serve the Trinity is being happy with God, then myself!

Someday the pain will be over, and I will be with the Lord. Until then I really have to continue with transition. I want my balls gone. My penis gone. My boobs size C or larger. I am a depraved, sinful individual, deservant of death. Only by Christ am I forgiven for His sacrifice on the cross. Oh Thank you Christ my Lord. In your name, Amen.

Mod Edit- No Foul Language please. TOS 11

[ToniB]

Why Oh Why can't all churches be as accepting as Mine this Sunday We had a Reaffirmation of Baptism Vows and a holy Water cross on our foreheads .There was no hesitation or Question about Me taking part in this Rite I am fully and totally accepted by everyone that attends and Runs the Church .I am invited to all the woman's meetings and have even been invited to attend a Retreat with them .So if this Church can be like this bearing in Mind it is a Anglican High Church/Catholic Church with alternating Priests or Vicars holding a Sung Mass every week why do other Churches have such different Views

[Obfuskatie]

A) the bible never addresses transgender issues per se because they didn't have words to convey the modern version

B) Joseph and the Technicolor dreamcoat and Mira are arguably trans characters in the bible. Even Jesus defied gender norms by carrying water which is a female task at that time.

C) Old Testament stuff refers to very small verses out of context that have nothing to do with transness. They refer to what clothes we can wear, but a male-bodied woman or female-bodied man could wear the garb of their peers without any biblical reproach.

People will dress up their hate in religion, but it has nothing to do with God.


     Hugs,
- Katie
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[iKate]

Hi Susan.
I've experienced hate myself from so-called friends. Turns out some of those "friends" are worthless bums who are miserable in their own lives so they have to piss on everyone else's.

A sampling of what I got:

"He still looks like a man!" Umm no I don't and it's she.

"Nobody is going to want to <expletive> him because he's so ugly and looks like a man." - this from a guy who is no Mona Lisa himself! (I told him that). and btw guys do want to <blank> me.

"You still have a penis you're still a man!" - um no. Science says otherwise. Then again you don't believe in evolution and climate change why am I even discussing science with you.

And finally, "you're mentally ill, you're a sick man!" - don't confuse my condition with mental illness. I am a respected person at my job and among a lot of people. I don't talk about "voting from the rooftops" and other such crazy nonsense. I don't align myself with (the crazy former police chief in PA who formed a fringe militia and went on YouTube with an expletive laden rant and shooting machine guns aimlessly) and other assorted nitwits. So before you call me mentally ill look at yourself!

As for God, he made me this way. I prayed damn hard before I started this journey. He made my soul, my mind AND my body. He also made scientists, doctors, hormones and surgeons to help me on my journey. I was born this way and he knows what he's doing, and is doing excellent work through his creation.

Some people may not believe in God - that is fine. This is MY belief and nothing anyone says is going to convince me otherwise.

Susan, you keep rocking it and forget the haters. Let them go wallow in their own miserable lives while you make yours better.

[iKate]

The other thing I don't like is cis people telling me how to transition. One guy told me I should just add an "a" to the end of my deadname because it will be easier for him and that I will always be "deadname" to him.

Why? Cis people don't know how we feel, why do they think they can tell us how to transition?