How many transgender women have experienced larger than expected breast growth?

[Meghan]

Yes. My mother is a 34A so by the "1 cup smaller theory" I should have no boobs.

I am a 36B which equates (apparently) to a 34C

All my mom side female only had either A or B cup breast. I am now worry that what I will have, and I am wish I will have either C or D cup.

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[pyhxbp]

All my mom side female only had either A or B cup breast. I am now worry that what I will have, and I am wish I will have either C or D cup.

The real problem is how do you measure boobs?

A 38A is bigger than a 34A but they are both A cups. In fact a 38A is a 34C or a 36B or a 40AA. This leads to all sorts of mess because an A cup like a 40A is bigger than a B cup like 36B.

My personal opinion is that it is better to be a little too small as you can always boost your size easily with padding or chicken fillets, but boobs that are too big just get in the way and cause backache. My best friend is an F-cup and she would love to be a C-cup.

[archlord]

Hey, I fully realize I have a better chance at Todd English asking me out than I do at changing your mind at this point, but I would be remiss if I didn't say that I really, REALLY, REALLY wish you would reconsider this decision at less than 4 months HRT.

It's not that I'm saying "you should wait because you may end up with very nice C-D cups in a couple of years!".  No, that's not it... at your size, it's almost impossible and I understand the desire/need to have larger breasts than HRT can ever truly afford.  It's that I feel a more natural result and look will be achieved if you wait.  The more breast tissue you have to begin with, the better things will look once you get them augmented... I'm just worried you'll have that two-bolted-on-grapefruits look

...and please please don't take this the wrong way, but judging by all your other posts and whatnot, you're the very impatient type; that can sometimes make for rash decisions.  I'm so sorry if I seem all preachy, but I really do care Elodie.

Yes you may be right about this but my surgeon who is very reputated with breast augmentation said it wont make any difference if i wait or not because i already have enough glandary tissue ( wich is rare for someone at the begining of hormones therapy).  The implants are undermuscle and the breast just growth normally after.  The more it will growth after, the more it will look natural.   If i end with D from natural growth i may require to remove the implant because i dont want to have bigger then DD  however the risk is low.

( i am not getting those huge implants , just small ones that give the extra 1-2 cup you need)

[Meghan]

The real problem is how do you measure boobs?

A 38A is bigger than a 34A but they are both A cups. In fact a 38A is a 34C or a 36B or a 40AA. This leads to all sorts of mess because an A cup like a 40A is bigger than a B cup like 36B.

My personal opinion is that it is better to be a little too small as you can always boost your size easily with padding or chicken fillets, but boobs that are too big just get in the way and cause backache. My best friend is an F-cup and she would love to be a C-cup.

That true. I am afraid that I will hit my breast into door or stuff, since I still try to get use to have a new boobs.

[pyhxbp]

That true. I am afraid that I will hit my breast into door or stuff, since I still try to get use to have a new boobs.

You will hit them on doorframes and car doors no mater what size they are. Remember that even an A cup sticks out forward by a good few inches and your brain is used to the idea that you have an insensitive, flat chest rather than a very sensitive chest that sticks out.

Imagine sticking half a large grapefruit in each bra cup - that is a fair approximation to a mid size A cup. The average boob size in the US and UK was about 34C until the obesity epidemic of recent years which has forced it up to 34DD. If you are not overweight then 34C / 36B / 38A is average

[Adchop]

You will hit them on doorframes and car doors no mater what size they are. Remember that even an A cup sticks out forward by a good few inches and your brain is used to the idea that you have an insensitive, flat chest rather than a very sensitive chest that sticks out.

Imagine sticking half a large grapefruit in each bra cup - that is a fair approximation to a mid size A cup. The average boob size in the US and UK was about 34C until the obesity epidemic of recent years which has forced it up to 34DD. If you are not overweight then 34C / 36B / 38A is average

I think while my curious side wants large breasts, I'm also afraid of the side effects. I'm already a bull in a china shop at times, & I'm afraid that if I do grow larger than normal breasts that I will just be in constant pain from bumping into things, & people. Also, I am currently a large guy(most of my fat is in my belly, underarms, breasts) from years of working to add body mass in the gym, which then followed a period of letting that mass turn to fat. I'm thinking I probably have a better than average chance of growing larger breasts, which terrifies, & excites me at the same time. I'm terrified because I plan to present as male for as long as possible, & I'm not really ready to fully transition anytime soon. Also, I just know the larger my breasts get the more likely it will be that I'm going to experience the same issues most women with big breasts face (backache, difficulty find bras, etc). Even with saying all of that, deep down I still hope that I do grow a nice pair of breasts. It's the woman inside me I guess

[Jessika]

Yes you may be right about this but my surgeon who is very reputated with breast augmentation said it wont make any difference if i wait or not because i already have enough glandary tissue ( wich is rare for someone at the begining of hormones therapy).  The implants are undermuscle and the breast just growth normally after.  The more it will growth after, the more it will look natural.   If i end with D from natural growth i may require to remove the implant because i dont want to have bigger then DD  however the risk is low.

( i am not getting those huge implants , just small ones that give the extra 1-2 cup you need)

So you are saying that your "reputable" Surgeon can already predict your Hormone outcome AFTER he/She takes your money and puts implants in you? REALLY?

I agree with V, and don't take this the wrong way...

It does not matter what a Surgeon tells you, or if the Implants are under muscle or on top. You will NOT know if your Breast growth will be "normal" after the implant as you assume.
You and your Surgeon will NOT know the results until Hormones are done doing what they do to your body. That is a FACT.
If a Surgeon told me it did not matter what stage my HRT was and that he/she could make it work, I'd never talk to that Surgeon again..EVER!
The BEST Surgeons will tell you to wait and let nature take it's course and then go from there, not the other way around.
I too want BA so bad, but if HRT does the work for me without the need for it. Great! If it's not to my satisfaction at LEAST 2 yrs into HRT, I may consider BA.

You are Impatient and we don't want to see you do anything to cause harm.

I suggest more research on HRT and BA. Just trying to be helpful.

At the end of the day, it's your choice and as with all things in life, our choices define our Future.

*hugs*

[ChloëAri]

I am a 30DD however due to the shallow nature of my breasts I wear a padded bra which "adds 2 cups"; bringing it up to 30F.

[archlord]

So you are saying that your "reputable" Surgeon can already predict your Hormone outcome AFTER he/She takes your money and puts implants in you? REALLY?

Uhh, not what i am saying .. My surgeon is actually one that isnt running away with your money...  He refused to do my jaw, forehead, orbital contouring and hairline lowering because he considered those surgeries  useless/ not worth the risk in my case.  This is exactly what he said to me :  I could take the money and do your hairline lowering but i am telling you it doesnt worth it for 1cm ..  He said this for many things i wanted.

I trust this surgeon he only suggested what i truly needed.

Then when we arrived on the breast topic . He asked me to take the shirt and bra off .  It took him less then 20 second to say  that i am not ready by visual look.  He then came closer to me,  touched my breast and said  : oh hmmm okay.. you had a lot of glandary tissue growth.  I CAN do it.

I asked him if i would be better to wait another 6 month or 1 year and this was his awnser :  Some prefer to wait to see  approximativly what they will end with but the problem with  male frame ( yes we all have male frame) is that breast are growing larger, more spaced due to the ribcage and previous pectoral muscle.  According to the size you want it is unlikely that it will change anything if you do it now or in 1 year, you will want the surgery anyway for the "SHAPE" . Your breast will continue to growth normally after. 

He tested a few size on me,  showed me and explained me the reason why it wasnt a good idea to use large implants as it would look unnatural. We agreed on the size wich isnt big at all  and the type  (sillicone) and then he  explained me the risk of doing this surgery:

possibility of Unheaven breast size on both side,  necrosis of a breast,  rejection,  leakage,  that i get to much breast development and that i want to remove them or to have revision.


The main point WHY i am doing BA so early is because i am getting FFS ( rhinoplasty, tracheal shave, chin contouring) and it will save me from having to pay again for anasthesy fees and to miss 3-4 week of job salary + the pain of having to recover from another surgery...

I understand your concern and i am happy that you care enough of people to say it    but i am not the only one who got implants early on..   Carmen carrera did,  Gigi gorgeous did , Jaclyn Ecklun did and some of my ts friends i know and  they ended just with nice looking breast..

**Carmen carrera removed the implants not long ago

the thing is : He is doing my breast augmentation because i have enough breast maturity for it.  It is the only reason and the YMMV thing again.


Thanks to you and V for your warnings 

[Richenda]

15 months on non-continuous hormones have seen mine go to 38C and they're noticeably expanding since switching from Finasteride to Dutasteride as the T-blocker.

I will definitely go for breast augmentation / implants later when they've stopped growing in c. 2 more years as they're quite wide apart.

I know everyone's different about this but my breasts really matter to me. They're what I can see when I look down

[Meghan]

You will hit them on doorframes and car doors no mater what size they are. Remember that even an A cup sticks out forward by a good few inches and your brain is used to the idea that you have an insensitive, flat chest rather than a very sensitive chest that sticks out.

Imagine sticking half a large grapefruit in each bra cup - that is a fair approximation to a mid size A cup. The average boob size in the US and UK was about 34C until the obesity epidemic of recent years which has forced it up to 34DD. If you are not overweight then 34C / 36B / 38A is average

Excellent Post

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[KayXo]

since switching from Finasteride to Dutasteride as the T-blocker.

Neither finasteride or dutasteride are T blockers. They do not block or reduce T. They only reduce CONVERSION of T to DHT. They cannot be a substitute for an anti-androgen.

I will definitely go for breast augmentation / implants later when they've stopped growing in c. 2 more years

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"The breast, nipple, and areola develop just as during female puberty, taking usually three to six years. Body weight and genetic predisposition affect the final breast size."

I can tell you, based on my own experience, that my breasts have grown and shrunk  and changed several times in my 10 yrs + on HRT. What you take, how much you take, diet, exercise, weight fluctuations, psychological and situational factors will determine growth.

Even ciswomen can relate to this as their breasts grow more during pregnancy, and at different times of the cycle, shrink after menopause, etc.

[Richenda]

"Neither finasteride or dutasteride are T blockers. They do not block or reduce T. They only reduce CONVERSION of T to DHT. They cannot be a substitute for an anti-androgen. "


Argh I know, it was a quick shorthand. Have had this convo so many times.

Of course they are anti androgens though: anyr, andros Greek for 'man or male.' Finasteride and Dutasteride block the conversion of Dihydrotestosterone which is the more potent form of testosterone in males. Others have posted on here ad nauseam the mechanism by which they do this, and the fact that Dutasteride blocks both type I and II.

Re. the great growth, my professional clinicians have both advised me that another 18-24 months will see them, for the most part, top out. That's after examining me recently.

[KayXo]

my professional clinicians have both advised me that another 18-24 months will see them, for the most part, top out. That's after examining me recently.

I've known many professionals make mistakes. Even amongst professionals, there is disagreement. Who's to say who's right and who's wrong? Real life experiences of several ciswomen, transwomen contradict their assertions. It can sometimes takes several years until full breast growth maturation occurs.

I do however understand your impatience at having normal looking breasts that are proportional to your body frame. You've probably waited for this a loooooooooong time. Being that you are impatient, you are more likely to accept their statements. I don't blame you.

My goal is just to set things straight based on real life occurrences and science. In the end, you gotta do what you gotta do.

[pyhxbp]

I've known many professionals make mistakes. Even amongst professionals, there is disagreement. Who's to say who's right and who's wrong? Real life experiences of several ciswomen, transwomen contradict their assertions. It can sometimes takes several years until full breast growth maturation occurs.

Richenda's clinicians - CHX - are the same as mine. They have about 3,500 trans patients / clients on their books at any time. With numbers like that I suspect that they know their business.

[ChasingAlice]

I've learned that...
Boob size for women is a important as peen size is for men. I have yet to meet a guy who did not want to be the biggest I've had in my life and if not then he had to be the best in bed. What's a girl to do?

I want big boobs, but I consider a C to be big.

ps
the guy who was the biggest was the worst ever. I was in tears before he was done and he thought I loved it. I know they is no technique for boobs, but still.

After consideration I've decided that I want I 8 oops I mean Ds. lol

[JessicaSondelli]

I have yet to meet a guy who did not want to be the biggest I've had in my life and if not then he had to be the best in bed.

I never had and wanted to have the biggest P but I guess I wasn't really qualified for that contest....lol

With regards to boobs, I would be more than  happy to get into the C region...time will tell...


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[Meghan]

I never had and wanted to have the biggest P but I guess I wasn't really qualified for that contest....lol

With regards to boobs, I would be more than  happy to get into the C region...time will tell...


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Well Jessica since us girls wait this long for our transition, then all we have just time.

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[Richenda]

Richenda's clinicians - CHX - are the same as mine. They have about 3,500 trans patients / clients on their books at any time. With numbers like that I suspect that they know their business.

Indeed

In my case the breast growth has gone far quicker than I expected so I'm not impatient but, as others have mentioned, they are slightly far apart so it would be good to pull them in and push them up further down the line.

[Nevara]

I wish.

Almost 1.5 years of HRT for me and I'm just barely growing out of my 32B/34A right now. I don't quite fill a 34B yet. My mom is a 36C herself.

Being really underweight 130-135lbs at 5'10" probably didn't help but now that I'm up to 140 I'm hoping some of it goes to my boobs. I'm actually lucky in terms of my big hips and I need something on my chest to balance them out.