a philosophical thought

[Amy413]

Looking at mythology, and more modern fantasy and sci-fi, the "boy-girl twins" play a very significant role in many stories.
One academic take on it could be a metaphor for the male and female inside.
Closer attention on stories like these have helped me find an understanding of myself.

Apollo & Artemis, Luke & Leia, Paul Atreides(Maud'ib) & his Sister Alia, Leto the II & Ganima (ok, I'm a big Dune fan)

But you get my drift, all these dual gender twins in all kinds of stories.
It was even a big part of native culture, some tribes considered some to have two spirits in them.

Sometimes it seems though if you look at these stories, those two twins are not doing things at the same time so much. As if the two actually represented a transgender. That's my take at least.

[Alycya]

Hi,

I've studied so many myths and I think I might have something to share about.

From my understanding the to twins and also the Divine couples of divinities as Isis and Osiris i.e. are just metaphors to indicate the hidden nature of the human soul and also point to a realization of a whole human being.

The legends and the stories in which those divinities are involved indicate a process that from duality leads to the One. They describe a mystical path in other words.

The same do alchemical metaphors, and the Androgyne is one of the step of the process. In the Androgyne the "two things" are going to became One thing in a Creative way.

Most of them, most of those myths, just describe in a narrative way, and somehow mysterious and cripted way, how to overcome duality.

Well, there could be a lot to say about, and this is not the right place - since is a supportive site for transgenders and not a forum for mystical speculations.

BTW, I think you had a worthy intuition there: those myths talks about a "change" within the human being, a transformation in order to become more integrate with reality - which is not splitted into two things, but it's One Wholeness.

Just my cent here.

Hugs,
Aly

[alissalyn]

Don't forget about The Symposium by Plato.

In The Symposium, Plato writes that humans were originally created with 2 heads 4 legs 4 arms but Zeus feared that the potential power humans may possess, he sliced us in half leaving us to spend the rest of our lives for our other half.. for our soulmate.

It's filled with some feel good quotations bout love, and the journey to find it.
"Love is simply the name for the desire and pursuit of the whole"
"Love is born into every human being; it calls back the halves of our original nature together"

The juicy part of is that Plato could have very easily written that the halves that were split were male and female, but he doesn't.  And when he descries the meeting of the other half:
"...and when one of them meets the other half, the actual half of himself, whether he be a lover of youth or a lover of another sort, the pair are lost in an amazement of love and friendship and intimacy and one will not be out of the other's sight, as I may say, even for a moment..."

[Tristyn]

Looking at mythology, and more modern fantasy and sci-fi, the "boy-girl twins" play a very significant role in many stories.
One academic take on it could be a metaphor for the male and female inside.
Closer attention on stories like these have helped me find an understanding of myself.

Apollo & Artemis, Luke & Leia, Paul Atreides(Maud'ib) & his Sister Alia, Leto the II & Ganima (ok, I'm a big Dune fan)

But you get my drift, all these dual gender twins in all kinds of stories.
It was even a big part of native culture, some tribes considered some to have two spirits in them.

Sometimes it seems though if you look at these stories, those two twins are not doing things at the same time so much. As if the two actually represented a transgender. That's my take at least.

So cool that you bring this up. I am working on the final draft of a book I have written since age 13 with this concept in it before I figured out I had gender dysphoria. Very interesting.

Though to be honest, the boy/girl twin thing in my story is quite reminiscent of Cain and Abel. Its a long story. -.-


-Phoenix

[Amy413]

I took mythology in community college in '91. I failed miserably, but even though I had dropped a bunch of classes that semester. I stuck in with mythology, fighting my dyslexia, because I found the stories so interesting.
I like to look for the underlying and metaphor in stories, look at how various great works line up with each other.

It's those timeless legends all great artists seem to tap into that give me peace and understanding of the universe.
Humanity has known everything since the get go, we buried all that knowledge in the art.

I have a link with Apollo 13, with my birth.
Remember "Houston, we've had a problem"  ?
I was born when they said that. I checked nasa logs. Almost to the minute.
Bang, oxygen tank blows out on a spaceship flying around the moon.... and I am born.
If anything, I should look towards The Legends of Apollo & Artemis as a guide.

[Alycya]

Bang, oxygen tank blows out on a spaceship flying around the moon.... and I am born.

Wow! Beautiful!

Thanks for sharing.

Hugs
Aly