Quote from: Deborah on October 14, 2017, 11:55:46 AM
My estradiol levels were higher this last time with IF (13 hours fasted) and about 15 hours after my last dose. However, I had also increased my dosage before this last test. For reference my level previously without IF was 113 pg/ml and this time with IF it was 137.0 pg/ml. Both times my last dose was the night before the test. Testosterone remained unchanged at undetectable levels so I have since then lowered my spiro dose by 25% to see what happens.
I have not seen any change to breast growth other than keeping my bodyfat low decreases the size. Looking at past measurements I could add about an inch and a half if I gained 10 pounds. I might do that anyway as it would only raise me to about 18% bodyfat. It puts me at the top end of normal BMI though.
Right now my measurements are:
Upper Chest: 38.5 in (that is a half inch larger since I started this fitness plan)
Bust: 41.5 in (no change)
Ribcage 36 in (no change)
From 18 months ago my bodyfat is down 2% for a total fat loss of 2.25 lbs and my lean mass is up 9 lbs for a total body weight increase of about 7 lbs.
During that 18 months I had five months of fat gain (25 lbs) from laziness then about 4 months of getting back in shape without changing my diet. Then about six weeks of calorie restriction followed by about 3.5 months of Keto and then steady since the middle of June IF with generally low carb and little to no calorie restriction.
So, my fitness plan with IF so far has had neither positive nor negative effect on beast size overall. However, it has made me a lot stronger without getting any bigger, makes me feel really good most of the time, and has made me healthier overall with lower blood pressure and lower fasting blood sugar. It also gives me a lot of leeway in eating a lot without packing on abdominal fat.
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Thanks for the update and details. I'm still really quite convinced that you're hacking your body with IF and the hgh levels combined with increased norepinephrine levels is telling your body to put down lean mass when you eat, and increase your metabolism when you aren't. Very much along the lines of the bulletproof exec diet/Dave aspy who claims to have a very toned body working out only a couple hours/week. (Granted he's a cis male, but I imagine the extra time you're putting into strength training has closed the gap hormones play).
I'm on a 2x weekly patch and always get by serum level tested in the trough of my patch cycle, have been resting at around 89 pg/ml but have seen no ill affects regarding how I feel or results.
The research I was able to find in cis girls who have a low body fat percentage while going through puberty says that breast growth isn't stunted per say, just somewhat delayed i.e. The timetable for maximum breast development simply takes longer. This would make sense as not all breast development is fatty tissue, we are also dealing with glandular development.
I will also again add that I have not been able to gain weight with keto + if (or just keto for that matter) no matter how many calories I ingest. Simply seems the more I eat the more energy I have to use. Lastly due to chronic pain I am not doing much strength training, but can say that even without that I am stronger than I was before starting hrt, with a much lower bmi. Can attest to the strength gained being completely usable without bulking up.
So fascinating. I still say "more research is needed!" XD