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Soreness and growth...

Started by Iliana.Found, February 23, 2016, 01:12:52 PM

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Iliana.Found

Hello,

Do your breasts grow every time they are sore? Do they grow when they are not sore?

I'm asking because my breasts are sore quite often, but I've been an A for quite some time. Like many others the soreness started within 1week of beginning HRT and continuously hurts in spurts of weeks. Thanks  :)
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KayXo

Whenever my breasts grow, they are sore BUT soreness does not always equal to growth. That is my personal experience.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

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Post-op since late 2005
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RobynD

Everyone is different of course. My soreness started immediately and has continued the entire year, with significant growth.


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Iliana.Found

Thanks. It must be that amount of growth depends on the person of course. Maybe mine do grow when they are sore, however not a noticeable amount until after a few sore spurts.

:)
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Maybebaby56

I noticed soreness in my breasts a couple of weeks after starting HRT, and breast nodules started developing.  Then the nodules sort of went away and the pain stopped.  I've been on hormones a little over six months. Several weeks ago my nipples starting hurting all the damn time. I have to be careful when I roll over in bed! I can't say if it has anything to do with growth, though. I have gained so much weight on HRT it's hard to tell.

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HappyMoni

My boobs were hurting for the first 8 months (Good growth). I recently upped my Estradiol to the max level and cut the Spiro in half to do it. All of a sudden all soreness and growth stopped. It's about three weeks now. Doc says my body might be thinking T is too low and is doing kind of like a bounce. Supposed to increase Spiro to start then maybe reduce E. Anyone experience anything like this? I miss my soreness.
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KayXo

Spiro is anti-androgenic so less spiro would allow more androgen to affect your body. I'm not surprised at these results, androgens will negatively breast growth and feminization. The reason for the bounce is because you reduced your Spiro not because your T is too low. So T is likely higher or/and T/DHT more active (less blocked by spiro).
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On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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.Christy

well for me, as long as i've got the lumps behind the nipples i can tell they are developing. the lumps may or may not be accompanied with soreness either.
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Rachel

I have been growing but slowly. I have noticed I am getting fuller which is welcome. My size is A plus. I use to get sore periodically but now I get itchy periodically with high sensitivity in my nipples.
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rikki88

My Spiro was upped at the beginning of the month. My soreness went away and just recently my random erections came back. No morning ones but yea.... Now my nipples are super sensitive and sore all the time.
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KayXo

Quote from: rikki88 on February 27, 2016, 05:26:41 PM
My Spiro was upped at the beginning of the month. My soreness went away and just recently my random erections came back. No morning ones but yea.... Now my nipples are super sensitive and sore all the time.

About Spiro (and cyproterone acetate), two things that are not so well-known:

1) they bind to androgen receptors, thereby blocking T and DHT BUT do have slight androgenic activity, although much weaker than testosterone or DHT.  This is why in an environment where T and DHT are already low, administering either could have undesirable effects or taking too high a dose.
2) both these "anti-androgens", not pure "anti-androgens" (closest being bicalutamide), also increase hepatic enzyme CYP3A4 responsible for metabolizing oral estradiol so they could well reduce concentrations of E2 in the blood if your E is taken orally.

Usually, they will be more beneficial than not but there might be situations where dose is too high or when taken post-op, that they might actually do more harm than good. Something to consider.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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