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Sleep apnea post vfs?

Started by Ritana, March 24, 2016, 03:56:29 PM

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Ritana


Well sleep apnea does affect testosterone levels. Here is the link,

https://www.drugwatch.com/testosterone/sleep-apnea/

I am not concerned about my testosterone levels right now as all the symptoms I have been experiencing so far are related to botox side effects. I am glad I didn't more severe ones so far!
A post-op woman
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anjaq

Well I guess Botox effects should get less and so should the side effects with time, so it should not get worse, right?

Quote from: KayXo on March 30, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
How do we determine if it is too low?
Well there are some symptoms that can occur. Loss of libido is just the most obvious one. I personally believe in trying to get the hormone levels of a healthy 20-25 year old woman and in that age group, estrogen and testosterone are higher than what is usually given as the lower range limit for blood tests, which are usually applied to older women who have hormone problems.

QuoteWhy do you need muscle strength? What are the issues you experienced?
Well, you asked for it :P - I had bladder/urinary issues. Also issues with my back muscles who were weakened and maybe also my vocal muscles. A problem is, I cannot really say which did what as I changed my hormone therapy to include Progesterone and some Testosterone at almost the same time and my health improved massively - I think most of it was because of the P, not because of that little T that bumped my blood levels from "not measureable" into the lower or middle female normal range.

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KayXo

Quote from: anjaq on March 30, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
Well there are some symptoms that can occur. Loss of libido is just the most obvious one.

Higher estrogen improves libido.

Ernst Schering Found Symp Proc. 2006;(1):45-67

"estrogen deficiency results in a spectrum of symptoms. These include loss of fertility and libido in both males and females;"

QuoteI personally believe in trying to get the hormone levels of a healthy 20-25 year old woman and in that age group, estrogen and testosterone are higher than what is usually given as the lower range limit for blood tests, which are usually applied to older women who have hormone problems.

In healthy 20-25 yrs old women, estrogen levels aren't constantly elevated. They increase and decrease on a monthly basis, from 20 pg/ml (very low) to 650 pg/ml (high).

QuoteI had bladder/urinary issues.

What issues exactly?

QuoteAlso issues with my back muscles who were weakened and maybe also my vocal muscles.

You had voice surgery, no? Could that have affected vocal muscles?

QuoteA problem is, I cannot really say which did what as I changed my hormone therapy to include Progesterone and some Testosterone at almost the same time and my health improved massively - I think most of it was because of the P, not because of that little T that bumped my blood levels from "not measureable" into the lower or middle female normal range.

So there you go! You agree. T probably didn't do anything. And had you raised E instead, this too could have improved symptoms. P also could have led to improvements because it relaxes muscles.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Ritana

#23
I found this info on the effects of botox on breathing. It explains why I have been having breathing difficulties, especially at night, resulting in day fatigue and weakness. I have never had breathing difficulties prior to having botox. It coulf have to do with the large dose that was injected.

http://botoxjuvedermdoctor.com/botox/safety-information/
BOTOX may cause serious side effects that can be life threatening. Call your doctor or get medical help right away if you have any of these problems any time (hours to weeks) after injection of BOTOX:

Problems swallowing, speaking, or breathing. These problems can happen hours to weeks after an injection of BOTOX® or BOTOX® Cosmetic usually because the muscles that you use to breathe and swallow can become weak after the injection. Death can happen as a complication if you have severe problems with swallowing or breathing after treatment with BOTOX® or BOTOX® Cosmetic.

People with certain breathing problems may need to use muscles in their neck to help them breathe. These patients may be at greater risk for serious breathing problems with BOTOX® or BOTOX® Cosmetic.

Swallowing problems may last for several months. People who cannot swallow well may need a feeding tube to receive food and water. If swallowing problems are severe, food or liquids may go into your lungs. People who already have swallowing or breathing problems before receiving BOTOX® or BOTOX® Cosmetic have the highest risk of getting these problems.

Spread of toxin effects. In some cases, the effect of botulinum toxin may affect areas of the body away from the injection site and cause symptoms of a serious condition called botulism.
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Dena

They have an anti toxin for botulism that they use to treat people who are suffering from botulism exposure. I don't know if they would use it in a case like this or just wait for the toxin to wear off.
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Denjin

I certainly hope this gets better soon, Ritana.  How many weeks has it been now since you had the injection?  Hopefully your body breaks it down quickly!
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Ritana

Thanks !

I had my injection on 14 January so I am one week short of 3 months. I really hope the effect is going to wear off soon.
A post-op woman
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Denjin

Well, it should wear off within the next month then. *crosses fingers* And, hopefully that was the problem, too...
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Ritana



I have some good news!

Over the last 3 days, I have been feeling slightly better. I feel like I'm getting more energy and my mood is getting a little bit better. I have been able to force myself to have some short distance walks (something which has been impossible since my return from Korea ). Let's hope the progress will continue to take place!

VFS did come at a heavy price in every sense!

A post-op woman
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Denjin

Great news. :)  Now that you can do some distance walking again, that will help give you your energy back!
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Ritana

I started taking Clonazepam 5days ago as my voice started started breaking (as a result of the botox effects wearing).

What side effects did you have from the Clonazepam and how long did they last, Anjaq?
A post-op woman
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anjaq

I had little side effects of actually taking the clonazepam. Maybe I am a bit more tired than usually, I think especially in the evening when it is time for the next dose, I am getting cranky. (After all it causes some addiction). Its hard to say if it has any effects - my pitch did not increase dramatically or anything, I do not know if I  have side effects or if what is going on otherwise with me is just normal ups and downs. What I did notice was however when I stopped taking it, I had withdrawal effects, so I had to slowly ramp it down over 2-4 weeks to not get too many of those. Dizzyness, nervousness,  restless legs, muscle pains,... things like that. Also my voice went worse for that time. Afterwards it was better though - the voice recovered from the withdrawal and I was ok as well - I hope the second round of Clonazepam will not be worse in the withdrawal time...

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Ritana

Are you supposed to take it during the evening? Jow long did u take it for?
A post-op woman
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anjaq

Yes absolutely in the evening because it can make you drowsy or tired or slow.

I took the pills from Dr Kim until they ran out, then had 2 months break and then he asked me to start again so I got a local prescription that probably will last for another 6 months in total (started in February)...

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Ritana

Oh dear, so Clonazepam doesn't seem to be a temporary thing! My voice started breaking lately  and that has caused a drop in the pitch.
A post-op woman
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anjaq

As fas as I know I am the only one so far who is on that drug in the long run :( - Most have it less than 3 months

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Ritana

I really hope the croaky voice will be restored so that I get back a decent pitch; otherwise, all wha've been through to have the surgery would've been in vain!!
A post-op woman
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bmiranda

Quote from: Ritana on April 13, 2016, 01:45:43 AM
I really hope the croaky voice will be restored so that I get back a decent pitch; otherwise, all wha've been through to have the surgery would've been in vain!!

Hang in there girl! Stay positive and eveything's gonna be alright!   :icon_hug:
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Ritana

Thanks Bmiranda,

It's been over three months since I had my surgery. I thought by now my voice would be clear enough. I am somewhat disappointed.

Anja, Dr kim keeps saying you need to adapt to your new vocal folds to avoid a new tremor, but I don't know how? There's no speech therapist around where I live to consult!

How are you supposed to adapt?
A post-op woman
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Denjin

I wish I knew, Ritana.  He told me the same thing but when I tried to get someone to explain it better to me I still never understood. :(
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