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Is it acceptable just to be a girl with a deep voice

Started by stephaniec, April 18, 2016, 05:20:11 PM

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Eva Marie

Whatever your voice sounds like it is acceptable because it is YOUR voice.

If you are unhappy with your voice you have plenty of time to work on it. The main trick is to raise the adam's apple to get the higher voice. There are exercises to help with that (swallow and hold repeatedly for periods of time to strengthen the muscles, and while you are doing that feel your adam's apple - it raises).

While you are working on that listen carefully to how women talk vs. how men talk - notice that women enunciate words clearly, they emphasize words, their speech is more animated, their voices tend to be a little more breathy, and their sentences tend to end on an upward note. These are speech markers that help people gender you as female.

Going full time has really helped me a lot with my own voice - I now have a lot of motivation to avoid being clocked so I try harder.
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Debra

Should it be acceptable? Of course.

Is it acceptable in society? As in will some people not look twice at you if you speak with a lower / non-feminine voice? Well no.

That's what it comes down to....the morality of it is that it shouldn't have to be a thing but the reality of it....to live in society today, it's much easier if your voice matches your look.

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JoanneB

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barbie

A problem is that people tend not to understand my talking at  first. I repeat it and some of them understand it. Repeat again, then most of them get it. This problem does not happen to my colleagues, students and friends who know me well. I guess the reason is that those strangers expect a high-pitch voice from me, but my voice is unexpectedly low, making it difficult for them to understand my talking at first. But, this is my life anyway.

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michelle

I just try talking softer.    I have never had much flexibility in my voice and always get called out as being male on the telephone.    In person, many people just see an old granny and seem to be discreet about questioning my gender or don't show that they care.  For the past 8 years all anyone ever sees is a graying old granny and I may have that school teacher demeanor because I taught school for over thirty years.   Any more. I don't know if I am seen as a lady or as a man who cross dresses and since I can't do much about what others think, I try not to let it bother me. 

An example of this is that my hiatal hernia acted up and I have pain at the top of my stomach when I chew food.  I went to get an x-ray at the University Hospital downtown.   My driver's licence still has the M and my name spelled Michael which I say I pronounce as Michelle.   I gave them my driver's license and Medicare insurance card.  When they called my up to give me my cards back the lady softly said,  "Ms Hackler."   However when they took me back to put on my gown,  I was placed in the men's dressing room,  but I was alone there.   I did fear them bringing in a man.  I was able to keep my skirt on because the x-rays were of the upper area.   Everyone was polite to me, so if they had negative thoughts they kept them to themselves. 

This is in Florida.  I don't do makeup hardly at all because I have never been one to constantly check my appearance so life removes my makeup or leaves my eye area with flecks of mascara.   I pretty much accept that in transitioning I will be the same kinda person that I was while I was trying to live butch.   I never have been a male, I just spent most of my life trying to be one because my parents and society labeled me as one.

My philosophy is to see my life as a unity,  and not see myself as having a male life and a female life.   So when it comes to my voice, which has been more of a tenor than a bass,  I just try and talk softer,  don't exceed much.

I also have a twelve-year-old son with my cis partner and when his friends ask him who I am, he says,  "That's my dad."   Which also means that I am just a transsexual lady, and I just have to be myself and let the chips fall where they may.

I am still not sure how to deal with conversations when I talk about my biological children with other ladies.    They will make assumptions about me and pregnancy, but as far as raising them I did everything else any other woman would have done except possibly nurse them,  but then their cis mothers were never into nursing any of our children anyway.   The same can be said if you get into converstions about your children with men, and they ask if they may ask now difficult  your pregnancy was.   Then the other part of the story  is the friends your kids bring home.

So a lot more goes into your conversations other than your voice quality in transitioning into being a woman.   For myself,  I find it easier to just let people think what they think,  but not lie.   If you have dealt satisfactorily with these issues, then your voice is just a minor problem.

Be true to yourself.  The future will reveal itself in its own due time.    Find the calm at the heart of the storm.    I own my womanhood.

I am a 69-year-old transsexual school teacher grandma & lady.   Ethnically I am half Irish  and half Scandinavian.   I can be a real bitch or quite loving and caring.  I have never taken any hormones or had surgery, I am out 24/7/365.
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sparrow

A couple of weeks ago, a girlfriend and I walked into a restaurant, and the guy at the counter said "hello ladies, how can I help you?"  But after he heard my voice, he called me "sir."  Maybe he hadn't seen my face clearly because I was backlit and he only saw the silhouettes of two people in dresses as we came in the door.  I'll never know.

I think it all depends on how deep your voice really is.  I can sing baritone, so I think that I'd never pass without serious training.  Fortunately, I'm entirely at peace with that.  I don't identify as a woman.
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T90

I thought I'd share this video with this thread, as proof that Cis-women can naturally have very deep voices as well.

I live in the UK and over here we have a sports correspondent called Tanya Arnold, who is noted for her very deep voice. A lot of people thought she was transgender until she actually said that she was Cisgender. Anyway, thought this might help make anyone who is struggling to feel better about their voice. Women's voices come in all kinds of tones and pitches.   ;D



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stephaniec

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barbie

Quote from: T90 on April 24, 2016, 03:55:04 PM
I thought I'd share this video with this thread, as proof that Cis-women can naturally have very deep voices as well.

I live in the UK and over here we have a sports correspondent called Tanya Arnold, who is noted for her very deep voice. A lot of people thought she was transgender until she actually said that she was Cisgender. Anyway, thought this might help make anyone who is struggling to feel better about their voice. Women's voices come in all kinds of tones and pitches.   ;D



Foreigners tend to denote me 'she' even after hearing me speaking broken English with deep, low voice. I am not quite sure whether I pass or they are just so kind to intentionally call as such. In my native language, nearly all people can tell my biological sex.

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kittenpower

My thought is why settle for less than you deserve; most of us can have a femine voice within the female pitch range without surgery if we put forth the effort.
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suzifrommd

Quote from: kittenpower on April 26, 2016, 05:53:20 PM
My thought is why settle for less than you deserve; most of us can have a femine voice within the female pitch range without surgery if we put forth the effort.

True.

But why should we feel we have to? Why should we feel we need to hold ourselves to an artificial standard of feminine presentation dictated by what cisgender women look and sound like?
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Devlyn

Quote from: kittenpower on April 26, 2016, 05:53:20 PM
My thought is why settle for less than you deserve; most of us can have a femine voice within the female pitch range without surgery if we put forth the effort.

My thought is that what I deserve is to be me, a person with no desire to change their voice.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn
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Ksxr01

Personally i have a deep voice and i cant stand it. I sigbed up for voice therapy in a few weeks to brgin trying to change the way i sound. Ive heard it takes an incredible amount of practice but totally worth it to me. For me, id prefer to sound the part but to each their own...as long as youre happy and good w it, go for it! :)
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Mariah

For me I couldn't have lived with a deep voice. I would have went after surgery to remedy. It comes down to personal preference and comfort in the end though. So many woman do have rather low voices as my therapist pointed out. Both of my therapists had lower voices and were thought no less of as woman because of them. A big part of it comes down to other things like infection. Hugs
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stephaniec

I've been practicing with my voice mail recorder. I sound like my therapist. Pretty funny
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