My face is too masculine, extremely depressed

[Lolz99]

I'm a pre-tranistion, pre-hrt MtF. I've just turned 17. You would think being so young would advantage me with a still feminine looking face and guarantee passability. It hasn't. I already look extremely masculine. I cannot even dress up or wear makeup without looking disgusting. Dressing up makes me feel worse because it just underlines how masculine I look and that unless I have an amazingly expensive cosmetic procedure on my face I will never be passable. People have told me I will never be passable whereas some have told me I 100% will be simply for starting young.

I can't transition because I'm too unwilling to become non-passable TS. But on the other hand I can't not transition either. I don't know how I can live this way

[Laura_7]

You might get a cheap wig and look up pictures of Isley Reust.
She cuts her hair to exactly cover brows and forehead. This mimicks what some FFS surgeries do.

Covering browsa and forehead can make for a big difference. If its a really cheap wig and you want to go to lenghts its posible to give wigs a hair cut so the exact areas are covered.
Another possibility is to look at websites where different hairstyles can tried on a photo.
Or getting fancy with photoshop.
Experimenting with photos can take a while to get a nice result though.

Using additionally some liquid foundation and some lipstick in unobtrusive colours should already give a really nice result.
I hope its motivating for you 

Additionally often people transition for themselves... to be able to express themselves better.


*hugs*

[Lara1969]

I also had a face with very strong masculine features. So my second step after hair transplants have been the full FFS with Facial Team. Without FFS I never could pass.

Just contact them. They are able to make an virtual FFS before you decide if you want FFS. The result really matches the virtual ffs. So you can decide if that would sufficient for you. And than you can save money.

HRT is only changing fat tissue which is maybe responsible for 20-50% of the gender impression. So get ffs as soon as possible. It can free up your real feminine soul and was live changing for me. I do not have to care about make-up or hairs. When I wake I look 100% feminine. But be really carefully about the surgeon. Facial Team is playing in the Champions League and only 2 or 3 other surgeons are also playing in the same league. But many have a good marketing machinery even on websites and forums.

[Lolz99]

Well I highly doubt I'm going to grow up to be rich enough to afford FFS

[Laura_7]

Well I highly doubt I'm going to grow up to be rich enough to afford FFS

You could try the trick with the hairstyle first ... many transgender people do this.

And its well possible eventually its covered.

More and more procedures are covered, its not much compared to people being able to live happy and productive lifes.

*hugs*

[Ms Grace]

Well I highly doubt I'm going to grow up to be rich enough to afford FFS

If you write yourself off before you even begin you are doing yourself no favours. Just focus on the here and now. And plan. If you want or need something in life you need to figure out how to get it and work towards it. Maybe it all looks hopeless right now but there are many years ahead of you and hundreds of opportunities. Many trans women had to wait many years before they could afford FFS but they worked towards it, and sometimes they also realised they didn't actually need it anyway.

[Dena]

My therapist told me I appeared to masculine to pass as a woman. I didn't listen to him because I knew I needed to do something to solve the heavy depression I was living with. I had my nose fixed to remove a bump but what you see is my masculine face.

[Lolz99]

I would be much more depressed as a non-passable person than as a male.

[Dena]

At this stage of the game, that isn't knowable. That question can only be answered after you are on the blocker, spent some time working on your image and have had some RLE. I have reached the point were it's not important to me if I pass as long as everybody accepts me which they do. I still care about my image and desire to appear feminine, but my world no longer depends on it.

You can't possibly know what you will look like in the future because I was in my second year of RLE before I could see the female in the mirror looking back at me. Often we are passable long before we see ourself as passable.

[JoanneB]

At 17 I was already well into a receding hairline, super sized super orbital ridges, and big.... everything. On top of deeper then most guy voices

There are MANY women out there with masculine faces, boy-buts, you name it. Some even 6 ft or more tall. They are still women

[Lolz99]

At 17 I was already well into a receding hairline, super sized super orbital ridges, and big.... everything. On top of deeper then most guy voices

There are MANY women out there with masculine faces, boy-buts, you name it. Some even 6 ft or more tall. They are still women

Cis women can get away with those. Trans women cannot get away with having those and still passing. If you are facially the same as a man, you won't pass unless you have FFS. No need to sugar coat things.

[Ms Grace]

Yep no need to sugar coat things, but likewise no need to coat them in poop either.

You have what you have - if you want to one day present as female you will need to learn how to accept/work with/modify that. It's that simple.

This is a support forum, you will find that means people will try their hardest to give you solutions or new ways of looking at things. If you write off everything and every option before you get started you only box yourself in with a negative attitude, and will sabotage yourself before you get started.

Transition is hard, it is very hard - it is made even harder by a "can't do" attitude. Many of us had to find ways of working with what we had or didn't have that was a potential "limitation" on our ability to pass. Sometimes, regardless of appearance our greatest limitation is our attitude and negativity.

[Dena]

Are you saying I need FFS to pass? Well I am not going to do it. I have lived with this face for over 35 years as a woman and never had a bit of trouble with it. Passing is not a matter of looking 100% perfect. You only need to have a little over 50% to pass. It's the combination of hair, dress, makeup, voice, mannerism, and face that genders you. You can look fairly masculine but if everything else indicates feminine, you will be gendered feminine.

Consider the old western where the hero chases down a possible bad guy - a woman dressed in mens western wear and the shock on the hero face when the hat comes off and there is all this long flowing hair. Its a classic case of the the image changing enough that the gendering changes.

[Cindy]

I know it seems just so damn hard when you look in the mirror and all you see is a masculine guy. Believe it or not most of us where at that point.

You may want to start to look through this thread:

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,168444.1900.html

Before and After.

Some of the most masculine looking guys turning into some of the most gorgeous women, most without surgery.

For myself I knew I would never pass, I looked like a thug. But HRT did its magic, I went to a great hairdresser, I had my facial hair removed. I learned a little about make up and most of all the hardest bit.

I learned to love me: Cindy.

I am without doubt the most gorgeous woman on the site. You can be too!

When we start off it all seems impossible but as Grace said we cannot fly into despair, we find a way to change, and we can, and we do.

You can and will, if you apply yourself.

[Vanessa_Glidewell]

I feel you; at my best I Look like a butch lesbian, but hey. Better than nothing. The main thing hair and makeup contouring The kind of hair style you have can effect the features of your face a lot. I'd ask my hairstylist, friends, family. For makeup, try using contouring techniques to feminise your face, or simulate the look.

[Lolz99]

I feel you; at my best I Look like a butch lesbian, but hey. Better than nothing. The main thing hair and makeup contouring The kind of hair style you have can effect the features of your face a lot. I'd ask my hairstylist, friends, family. For makeup, try using contouring techniques to feminise your face, or simulate the look.

Contouring is useless. I tried it and I just looked bronzed. It didn't change the face of my shape like how it's supposed to.

[michelleh]

My heart goes out to you. A few masculine features aren't going to make you a man just as a few feminine features are 't going to get make you a woman. I look at Angelina Jole has a masculine sized jaw but, still a very beautiful woman. Believe it or not there it is really nearly impossible to find CIS woman who doesn't have some masculine features in my there is precious few CIS woman without some of these so called limitations like being too tall, large jaw,brows. Sometimes being too perfect will make you stand out among CIS woman.

Much Love❤️😘
Michelle