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Voluntary Euthanasia

Started by Jean24, April 28, 2016, 03:37:38 AM

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Jean24

Does anyone know where this procedure is legal? Do any of the good states to live in like CA, NY etc. have laws that can help with this?
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Cindy

I think you need to define voluntary euthanasia, under what circumstance and how. It is a very complex issue.
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Jean24

Quote from: Cindy on April 28, 2016, 03:44:10 AM
I think you need to define voluntary euthanasia, under what circumstance and how. It is a very complex issue.

Basically euthanasia through informed consent.
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Cindy

Quote from: Jean24 on April 28, 2016, 03:57:56 AM
Quote from: Cindy on April 28, 2016, 03:44:10 AM
I think you need to define voluntary euthanasia, under what circumstance and how. It is a very complex issue.

Basically euthanasia through informed consent.

Euthanasia for what? Because I have a terminal illness that has no hope of cure? Because I want voluntary suicide because I'm sad?

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Jean24

Quote from: Cindy on April 28, 2016, 04:10:21 AM
Basically euthanasia through informed consent.
Euthanasia for what? Because I have a terminal illness that has no hope of cure? Because I want voluntary suicide because I'm sad?

Euthanasia because I'm going to die. Why does it concern others which way it happens?
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Cindy

Why are you going to die?

What can be done to help you?

How can we alleviate the pin?

Do you have pain?

Why are you depressed?
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Meowt

Euthanasia is always a last resort - some who are going to die of a terminal illness that is slow and painful choose euthanasia over that, whereas with depression and other mental illnesses there are cures and you have a chance to recover - through therapy and/or medication.

There's a lot of moral issues with euthanasia, and when it is appropriate, and when it comes down to it most people have very different and usually strong opinions.

In my personal opinion, if someone has no quality of life and no chance of recovery, I personally believe that it is appropriate.

As far as I am aware, it is possible to travel to some places in the US and elsewhere for euthanasia, although I am sure many places have strict procedures and policies for who qualifies for euthanasia and who does not. From what I have heard, therapy is also required before the procedure to access your mental state.


Here is a link as to where it is legal. I strongly advise that you only consider this as a last resort,  and if you are needing support for mental illness there are always places can be contacted in your general area.


Mental health hotlines in the US
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Jean24

Quote from: Cindy on April 28, 2016, 04:43:17 AM
Why are you going to die?

What can be done to help you?

How can we alleviate the pin?

Do you have pain?

Why are you depressed?

I'm noticing your signature right now. Right to die is also a human right. I feel if someone came here and asked those sorts of questions with the intent to stop someone from transitioning, you would have something to say about it. I'm just looking for information and I haven't mentioned anything about my medical or mental health status.
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Cindy

I most certainly would not deny you the right!

Indeed in my profession it mat be suggested I have helped people walk that path. But at the appropriate time.

I was also very suicidal for a long time and was just wondering if your desire/concern on euthanasia may be alleviated so you can live a happy life.
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Jean24

Quote from: Cindy on April 28, 2016, 04:55:35 AM
I most certainly would not deny you the right!
Indeed in my profession it mat be suggested I have helped people walk that path. But at the appropriate time.
I was also very suicidal for a long time and was just wondering if your desire/concern on euthanasia may be alleviated so you can live a happy life.

I understand. However I'm fine with this. I'm no longer interested in exploring waiting/coping as alleviation.
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Jean24

Thanks for the information Meowt.
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Cindy

I reached a point of going to leap out in front of a train.

I made choice, transition or die. It was hard.

I didn't leap in front of the train.

I gained a life I love. I never expected it.
Maybe you can?

Why can't you?
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Jean24

Quote from: Cindy on April 28, 2016, 05:25:51 AM
I reached a point of going to leap out in front of a train.
I made choice, transition or die. It was hard.
I didn't leap in front of the train.
I gained a life I love. I never expected it.
Maybe you can?
Why can't you?

Well I don't want any of that whether I can get it or not.
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Mariah

I don't know of any places that allows it legally. The fact is I had to make a decision, like Cindy, to live or die. I chose to live. I have been on my deathbed before. I know what is like and the fact remains to this day choose to live. It meant I had to transition to do so, but fact is transitioning and living as me was preferable to diving. I know it may seem difficult, dainty or plane to much to deal with at this point. Why is that you want to give up so badly as to want Voluntary Euthanasia? Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Jean24 on April 28, 2016, 05:42:02 AM
Well I don't want any of that whether I can get it or not.
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Tessa James

Actually several US states and several nations do have provisions for death with dignity.   I believe all of them do restrict medical/medication assistance to terminally ill people.

I am a strong supporter of death with dignity and intend to call my own shots when the terminal time comes.  Suicide as a response to depression is another matter entirely. 

The depths of despair and depression some feel may induce them to consider a way out.  Suicide is a permanent solution to what is often a temporary situation.  There are so many better alternatives with options to feel better rather than just gone....
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Jean24

Quote from: Mariah on April 28, 2016, 07:28:34 AM
I don't know of any places that allows it legally. The fact is I had to make a decision, like Cindy, to live or die. I chose to live. I have been on my deathbed before. I know what is like and the fact remains to this day choose to live. It meant I had to transition to do so, but fact is transitioning and living as me was preferable to diving. I know it may seem difficult, dainty or plane to much to deal with at this point. Why is that you want to give up so badly as to want Voluntary Euthanasia? Hugs
Mariah

I just don't want to live anymore, and I'd prefer to have help so it can be done correctly. Why can't I chose something different than what you chose?
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Dena

I at one time reached the point of suicide or life/transitioning. I decided if life didn't work, I could always come back and finish the job. The first two therapist didn't really do the job but the third one saved my life. Now instead of suicide, I want to live forever.

As decision to take your life or transition is something that should be discussed with somebody else or a therapist. Often we are so deep in depression that we need someone who can view the facts objectively without the depression. The depression isn't forever and it can be treated. I looked at your posts from three years ago when you first came to the board and you were working on completing your service so you could get started. You have stayed with us these years and until a short time ago, you wanted to transition. What is troubling you and why did you change your mind. Possibly we can help you solve the problem what ever it is.
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Devlyn

Big hug, Jean! You're a warrior like me, why do you want to stop fighting?

When life kicks me, I like to kick it back!  >:-)

Hugs, Devlyn
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Jean24

Quote from: Dena on April 28, 2016, 05:57:48 PM
I at one time reached the point of suicide or life/transitioning. I decided if life didn't work, I could always come back and finish the job. The first two therapist didn't really do the job but the third one saved my life. Now instead of suicide, I want to live forever.

As decision to take your life or transition is something that should be discussed with somebody else or a therapist. Often we are so deep in depression that we need someone who can view the facts objectively without the depression. The depression isn't forever and it can be treated. I looked at your posts from three years ago when you first came to the board and you were working on completing your service so you could get started. You have stayed with us these years and until a short time ago, you wanted to transition. What is troubling you and why did you change your mind. Possibly we can help you solve the problem what ever it is.

I don't want to be transgender anymore.
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Dena

Sadly that isn't an options but if the transition is a problem, blockers can reduce the feeling so you would be more comfortable in a male life style.

The other question is what change your mind? I know I had a good deal of fear getting out the door as Dena. That is normal and nothing to be ashamed of. If you still want to be Jean we can help you with that. Once you are out the door and in the world you will become comfortable in your new life.

I suspect your service ended a short time ago and now you are facing the fact that it's time to make a decision. It's not easy to do. My time of the decision came when I found the therapy group my third doctor ran. I had several weeks of 2 hours of sleep a night deciding if I was going to stay with the group, would I transition, could I transition and what do I do now. The end result of all those sleepless nights was to transition, a decision I have never regretted.

You have given a portion of your life for your country and now it's time for us to help you find a new life. How can we help you find your new life.
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