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DEA Wants Inside Your Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs

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DEA Wants Inside Your Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/10/dea-wants-inside-your-medical-records-to-fight-the-war-on-drugs.html

The Daily Beast/By CHRISTOPHER MORAFF   06/10/2016

"The feds are fighting to look at millions of private files without a warrant, including those of two transgender men who are taking testosterone.
Marlon Jones was arrested for taking legal painkillers, prescribed to him by a doctor, after a double knee replacement."
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RobynD

It would be good now if we could just declare this so called war over. We have a world-leading incarcerated population. It has been a bust.


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Colleen M

That whole "Bill of Rights" nonsense with all its Amendments and protections nonsense is for losers.   ::)

I've got as low an opinion of addicts as you're likely to find, but the war on drugs is worse than the disease. 
When in doubt, ignore the moral judgments of anybody who engages in cannibalism.
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Devlyn

Quote from: Colleen M on June 11, 2016, 04:02:33 PM
That whole "Bill of Rights" nonsense with all its Amendments and protections nonsense is for losers.   ::)

I've got as low an opinion of addicts as you're likely to find, but the war on drugs is worse than the disease. 

As an addict, I'm pleased to tell you that your opinion of me is inconsequential.  ;)

Hugs, Devlyn
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Colleen M

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on June 11, 2016, 04:07:14 PM
As an addict, I'm pleased to tell you that your opinion of me is inconsequential.  ;)

Hugs, Devlyn

I deal with an average of about three a week at work.  I have a long history of keeping my opinion out of it.  I really don't hold it against addicts who own it, but the ones who just have to lie about it drive me nuts. 
When in doubt, ignore the moral judgments of anybody who engages in cannibalism.
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stephaniec

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Devlyn

Quote from: Colleen M on June 11, 2016, 05:32:31 PM
I deal with an average of about three a week at work.  I have a long history of keeping my opinion out of it.  I really don't hold it against addicts who own it, but the ones who just have to lie about it drive me nuts.

Addiction is the "disease of denial" 

It sounds like you're assigning a character fault to what is actually a symptom of the disease.


Quote from: stephaniec on June 11, 2016, 05:52:14 PM
I use to be an addict , does that count

Yes, you're always an addict, even if you're staying free of your demons.


We're going wildly off-topic, though. I always keep an eye on the addiction subforum, if anyone wishes to discuss the issue further, that would be the best spot.

Hugs, Devlyn

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Colleen M

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on June 11, 2016, 06:02:20 PM
Addiction is the "disease of denial" 

It sounds like you're assigning a character fault to what is actually a symptom of the disease.



I represent people in Social Security disability claims.  It's not uncommon to see various mental illnesses which have been self-medicated, or cocaine addicts who have fried their hearts, or alcoholics who have destroyed their livers, or generally any of the people who have proven their doctors right one way or another.  I get to see hundreds or thousands of pages of medical records with urine drug screens, blood tests, comments from doctors, and generally know exactly what I'm dealing with in excruciating detail.  There's often an underlying condition or a "damage is done" situation so I can still work with what I've got.  I'm quite happy to look past addiction in considering whether or not somebody is disabled.  Before the hearing I tell all my clients exactly what the judge knows, I usually show them the actual medical records, and stress the importance of owning it to build credibility because if a judge catches you in one lie under oath we know the judge won't ever believe anything else you say.  And then there are the guys with back problems and a simply irrelevant alcohol addiction, where I tell them openly that the only reason it's even going to come up is so the judge can decide if he's being honest.  Criminal records are brought up for about the same reason.     

This is where the problem starts.  About two thirds of the addicts I deal with then absolutely insist on destroying their credibility by committing perjury rather than agreeing with their medical records.  We're not talking about simply lying or minimizing here, but somebody being stupid enough to knowingly and intentionally commit a crime simply to spite themselves.  It's bad enough when the substance abuse is at least relevant, but the guy with back problems lying about his alcohol consumption is just determined to be caught lying for no apparent reason.  About half of those get out of the hearing and earn some brownie points for apologizing for committing perjury, but the rest are just...

Now, show me an addict who will admit the problem, talk honestly about mistakes made and lessons learned--even if that journey isn't complete--and we can often actually do something for that person.  I can still win their claim if somebody says, "I snorted cocaine last night," it just means they'll have a friend or family member to help them manage their money.  I get this kind of honesty about a third of the time and I'm thrilled when it happens.   

So when I say that all I want out of addicts is honesty, and that I'm disappointed by how seldom I get it, I've got a painful track record on the subject.     

             
When in doubt, ignore the moral judgments of anybody who engages in cannibalism.
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BeverlyAnn

This whole thing has my PCP so freaked out.  I've had three back operations.  I also spent many years crawling around in the bins of airplanes loading and unloading luggage, mail and cargo so I have knees that hurt.  On normal days I take naprosyn which is just strong Aleve.  However on bad days I take a (1) hydrocodone but now my doctor is getting afraid to prescribe it due to all this.  I really don't want to go to one of the pain clinic pill mills.
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. - Oscar Wilde



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