Why do you think Jesus is rejected by the established religions misuse his word

[Deborah]

I believe it was written as theology and not as history at all.  The darkness in the story was simply a symbol.  See definition 2a below from Strong's Lexicon.

People later came to believe it literally as the story spread and myth became history.

4655 σκότος [skotos /skot·os/] n n. From the base of 4639; TDNT 7:423; TDNTA 1049; GK 5030; 32 occurrences; AV translates as "darkness" 32 times. 1 darkness. 1a of night darkness. 1b of darkened eyesight or blindness. 2 metaph. 2a of ignorance respecting divine things and human duties, and the accompanying ungodliness and immorality, together with their consequent misery in hell. 2b persons in whom darkness becomes visible and holds sway.


Sapere Aude

[stephaniec]

again no problem, I just believe the intimate relation between God and man within The Christ Godhead would cause nature to be affected by Christ's suffering and last breath as he become totally divine and left natures hold.

[stephaniec]

the walking on water , the turning water to wine , Jesus coming on the clouds can all be explained in a rational way., but that's for some other time.The walking on water and the coming on the clouds are a part of the same intimate bond between the divine and human where nature is affected. The turning wine into water I believe is part of a slightly different rationale having to do with the history of mathematics in regards to the Jewish people beginning  with the story of Noah and the building of the ark with the dimensions of 30*50*300. There is a way to show these dimensions represent the construction of the value of pi.Which makes sense since the Jews were laborers involved in the building of structure in Egypt where they would be quite proficient in the use of mathematics to help in construction. I can show how it was done . The water into wine is about this approach to solving for pi.

—1 Kings 7:23—

1 Kings 7:23 King James
And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.


This is quite coincidental given that the dimensions of the ark are 30 50 and 300.  the bath's dimensions are 10 5 and 30 if you start with 5 then multiply the second and the third by the given dimension of 10 which is the diagonal line where you divide into the circumference to attain pi, but here we reverse it to say we multiply by 10 instead of division.
I'm suggesting someone had a method. The method for solving for pi in 1Kings was used to show that the scholars were aware of this and pi was known to be of interest as the Jewish faith progressed. Now we come to Jesus. He's considered a prodigy and a carpenter who by necessity would work with some knowledge of mathematics and also a prodigy of the scriptures. extrapolation brings you to the possibility that Jesus was aware of what someone discovered earlier. I'm not going to extrapolate further , but there is a possibility of a brilliant method way before its time for a more accurate method for solving for pi. Now I want to make this clear that this is total speculation on my part and there is no evidence outside of what I can methodically show that this idea has any validity whatsoever .

[stephaniec]

also one would not want the the Romans to have the ability to make more accurate weaponry   with a more accurate method for angles.

[Joelene9]

  It is the same today as it was at the end of the First Century when Jesus related to John in exile at Patmos in Revelations 2 and 3. The letter to the Seven Churches. He chewed out 5 of them with charges from being lukewarm in faith to outright introduction of idolatry and its adulteries to the faith. The same has been going on since the Second Century void to today. Counterfeit codecs, Latin Vulgate, misinterpretations of the Old Greek, the discarding and destruction of some of the codecs that are not in today's Bible of any sort and other phony documents made in the centuries since doesn't help either! Jesus didn't mince words in that letter to the Seven Churches and the same would be said of the Churches since and today at the final Judgement.
  As with the other established non-Christian religions, Jesus said "Repent!" As simple as that. Misuse of His word by anybody is wrong by Him.

Joelene

[stephaniec]

Book of Revelation   22:19

"And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book."

[stephaniec]

to me the Book Of Revelation is a master piece.  I believe it is written in the style it is to disguise important facts about the life of Jesus. As stated in Revelations . not one word is to be taken away or added under punishment of non existence . The pyramids have dire warnings for anyone desecrating  a tomb. I believe such a warning is added so the exact wording of the Book of revelations were not to be altered in any way to preserve the hidden facts that were kept hidden from Rome.Let me state this is all speculation on my part and may be just psychotic ramblings of an old LSD freak but there are  numerous suggestions throughout the text that portray the human side of my beloved Lord and also his divine nature. Facts which are preserved in a seeming psychotic ramble but represent the Lords other proclivity as a mathematician as astute as Archimedes . I'm in the process of writing this thesis with substantive analytical proof that this is a possibility , but 3 years ago I got side tracked with an obsession with being transgender and devoting way too much time on transgender related issues. I need to finish my paper though ,some how if I can pull myself away from trans stuff.But the gist of the paper is to show the human side of Christ as what I believe is a deceptively detailed account of his work as a mathematician.Please forgive me if I sound wacko , but it's something I feel I can prove. Christ the prodigy both human and divine. Again I'm sorry if I sound like a psychotic, but my time on this planet is limited and I need to get the story of my beloved Lord out because if you see Christ as a true prodigy maybe the doubt about his existence will slowly fall away.

[stephaniec]

basically through a combination of the gospels and the book of Revelation one can construct  a pi formula that is the same formula that is used in modern day to solve for pi. It takes some gathering of passage , but it's there.Archimedes achieved the measurement of pi basically as 22/7. I believe that Jesus came up with the formula sine/(cos/2^n) which was a major advance for that time. The problem is that the importance of Christ is his divine nature to lead mankind out of the darkness and the emphasis on his human side needed to be diminished .Also the problem of giving the Roman war machine more of an advantage in precision of their weapons so the mathematics needed to be hidden in apparent psychotic rambling.at the very least I could write an interesting fiction novel. But the true importance of all this is my love for Jesus.

[stephaniec]

just to show my rationale for the mathematics of the bible and the Jewish people. The key to solving for and approximation for pi using the measurements of the ark is the pythagorean theorem .The theorem could of been developed by builders in Egypt especially if it was the Jewish engineers they wouldn't of disclosed  the secret. or the time of when the ark story might of been after pyathagoras . Either way the formula is for what is known as a bipyramid structure A^2 + B^2 + c^2 = d^2 with this you can produce an approximation to pi at 3.1417  . Archimedes I believe got 3.1416. These are the kind of facts embedded in the New Testament to construct  the formula  sin/(cos/2^n).As a hint to the method in the New Testament with the story of the wedding at Cana . as I recall there were 6 jugs used and filled to the brim and then some water was drawn out. This would designate Archimedes aproach to the solving of pi. You take the circumference of the jar opening as one circle than drawing out wine would produce a smaller circle within the larger circle , Archimedes used this method to derive pi and dividing this space into segments. If you take the circumference of the circle at 360 degrees and divide by 6 (the 6 jars), you get 60. The modern formula for pi is Sin(60)/cos(2^n). There is a lot more to the justification for doing this in the story of the new wine , but it would take awhile to explain because it's rigorous . It seems to me very possible , but then again I'm bias towards my Lord so who knows. The book of revelations goes into a more rigorous description of this method but it's is somewhat  hidden by metaphor, but when written out completely it seems to make sense as describing a pi recipe. And the numbers fit perfectly to produce pi unless you change what is written.