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Has your sexual/romantic attraction changed?

Started by Platzhalter, August 20, 2016, 04:18:10 PM

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Platzhalter

It's a thing that has made me wonder for a while, but is there anyone else whose sexuality changed after realising who or rather what they actually are?
While it was always weird for me to identify as lesbian (and that makes a lot more sense in hindsight), there was a time where I seriously doubted being bi because the thought of having sex with a guy freaked me out. Now that I've come out, I was wondering if being trans may have been the issue right from the beginning. It would explain having a hard time seeing myself as lesbian or thinking of having sex with a guy as the girl.

Sorry for bothering you with my weird thoughts though.
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Elis

I think with my constant introspection about my gender it's made me more aware of the different sexualities out there. At 18 I thought I was gay. It opened the floodgates and I found women very attractive. I went out with a girl to see if I was really gay and thought I was asexual. I never felt sexual attraction but before my gf I just thought that was normal and didn't realise other people experience a whole different feeling I don't or can't. Then realised I was demisexual. Then realised I felt more attraction towards guys; just before I thought there was no other option but me being a woman with a guy. Now I'm still pretty sure I'm demisexual but I find men more emotionally attractive and girls more physically attractive.

It's completely normal to have these thoughts. I don't think HRT changes sexuality; that's set at birth. Just HRT and realising your trans means you think about different aspects of your life much more deeply and makes you more aware and open of different sexualities and going through labels to see what fits.
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November Fox

Yes it did but I think I might always have had bi or polysexual tendencies. They just "came out" more when I did. And although I preferred men initially, women frequently catch my interest now too.

I feel more comfortable with men though because for me, women are very confrontational (in the sense of their bodies resembling some of the things on mine).
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WolfNightV4X1

Eh, kind of? In the sense mostly the definition of who you like changes based on the new gender you have after realizing youre transgender, it can be weird to comprehend. I have been straight, but since Ive transitioned Ive come to terms with being mostly gay.


On the respect of actually changing what people you prefer. Ehhhh, I dont think thats entirely true and depends on how strong your preferences were before. I previously was not all that into girlsl. Now? Something about being the man in the relationship, and using the parts I should have as a man when intimate with females, well, thats kind of hot to me. So in a way having that 'D' complex made me more bi than Ive been before. Previously I just thought soft feminine features were pretty and attractive...but now I actually feel like I am attracted to them more than before.

Good thing, too. Even though I didnt always know I was bi, I really like loving people for who they are not what they pack. Although...I tend to gravitate to males more strongly so I often consider myself 'homoflexible'. My current partner is a trans woman, though, and I love her the same.


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Ayden

My orientation never changed, just the label that's attached to it. I've always been attracted to men, and after hormones and two surgeries I'm still attracted to men. I was with my husband before and we're still together. He's gay, and I'm pretty sure he knew about me without me ever having to say anything. He just encouraged me to work through my identity problems. He told me he was always attracted to me because I "felt" like another man, even when I was super in denial.

Some people feel free to break out of certain labels when they begin transitioning or when they get to a certain point. I don't think either experience is wrong, right, normal or otherwise. It's really all very personal.

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Tossu-sama

To put it bluntly, I suppose I've become more gay. In a way.

I think it's highly likely that I've always been attracted to men more than I was willing to admit, and insisted I was more attracted to women. Now I'm okay to admit it's pretty much the opposite but not enough for me to ditch my fiancée. :D
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AnxietyDisord3r

Quote from: Platzhalter on August 20, 2016, 04:18:10 PM
It's a thing that has made me wonder for a while, but is there anyone else whose sexuality changed after realising who or rather what they actually are?
While it was always weird for me to identify as lesbian (and that makes a lot more sense in hindsight), there was a time where I seriously doubted being bi because the thought of having sex with a guy freaked me out. Now that I've come out, I was wondering if being trans may have been the issue right from the beginning. It would explain having a hard time seeing myself as lesbian or thinking of having sex with a guy as the girl.

Sorry for bothering you with my weird thoughts though.

I can relate to that total sense of dysphoria when thinking about having sex with a guy. However, in my case it wasn't covering up secret bi feelings because even though I look at dude's bodies all the time now (comparing in my head ... yeah, it's terrible) I don't get turned on by that. I do get turned on by looking at women. Which I already knew but it's more acute. I now watch het porn. That used to turn me off big time and I think it was because of dysphoria. I would imagine het scenarios in my head but with me--or an alter ego because thinking of my body made me dysphoric--as the guy. Before T I hadn't looked at porn in literally years. So that is a behavior change. I used to read m/m slash.

But yeah, imagining having sex with a guy as a girl just seemed like death to me.
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FTMax

I identified as a lesbian through high school. When I was 17, my ex came out as trans and we dated again while he started transitioning. I didn't really change how I identified at that point - it made me realize I was trans, but I was in no position to come out so I remained a lesbian who was open to dating transmasculine people. No interest whatsoever in cisgender men, but I think that had less to do with their physical characteristics and more so to do with the views I had on them at the time.

When I started transitioning, it was the same. I was primarily attracted to women, but also open to dating other trans men. Pansexual was a better label for me at the time, and I was open about that shift.

After a few months on T and post top surgery, I did not find other trans men sexually interesting anymore. Can't tell you why. I was dating another trans guy at the time and just did not find him attractive anymore and wasn't interested in having sex with him. We broke up for unrelated issues, and I've since only dated women.

I think maybe when I was younger and less set in my identity that I was maybe more open minded about who I could be attracted to? That's about the only explanation I can come up with that seems accurate for me.
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Steph Eigen

Great thread but where to begin?

I didn't really date in high school.  I found myself very clumsy in the traditional role of dominant sexually aggressive testosterone oozing male.  In college, things changed since I was able to develop relationships in a less stressful situation of getting to know girls in a "hanging out" environment where I would tend to find it easy to have female friends and develop intimacy leading to romantic involvement through "brain sex" followed by my romancing them in an almost tritely traditional way (dinner, wine, chocolate, candlelight, etc.) that was apparently a novel experience for college women in the late '70s. 

My first serious girlfriend,with whom I'm still in love and always will be, and  I spent most our free time together for nearly 2 years through college.  We were pretty much every definition of soulmates, not a college infatuation.  We were very intimate not overtly sexual.  On occasion we would end up in bed cuddling but our encounters were limited to  gentle kissing and nearly asexual caressing and touching.  We never actually had genital sex.  Eventually this increasing intimacy without progression to a fully sexual relationship caused the relationship to degenerate into a strange state of discomfort that mutually led us to  end it.   I tried to rekindle the relationship several times over the early years following college while we were both in graduate school (different ends of the country) but nothing ever became of my efforts.  We drifted apart.   I am pretty sure she ever married. 

As I have mulled over the nature of our interactions and her personality, I strongly suspect she was lesbian.  In retrospect, I wonder if our relationship might be best understood as a lesbian relationship where I had the inconvenient form of being anatomically male but the deeper  connection between us cued in to my underlying feminine persona.  This would explain much of the discomfort with intimacy that plagued us both.

I met my wife while in graduate school, another soulmate level relationship.  We've been together for over 30 years now with a stable, generally happy marriage.  To the point of the thread about roles changing over the years, I find there is more and more uncertainty I have about the sexual roles we play in our marriage.  We are very familiar with one another's likes and dislikes and like most who have been married for an extended period of time, sex is very good if not somewhat predictable.   Over the past few years, with kids out of the house and more time for introspection, my  dysphoria has now come to the fore.  Now, I find myself viewing the plumbing and mechanics of sex in a somewhat detached manner, as if the penis were a shared item between us giving us both pleasure.  What's new, now I often fantasize about being the receptive partner.  At an emotional or romantic level, I don't find myself attracted to men at this point but I can easily imagine having a heterosexual man as a sex partner only with me as a woman.  I have no gay male urges whatsoever.

The problem is pretty obvious, I love my wife dearly, she would do just about anything for me but cannot provide this function.  Her expectations are clear as well, wanting a traditional male husband for a lover.  In practical terms, I can continue in this current state of bedroom affairs (no pun intended) probably indefinitely.  Transition would change this dynamic--uncharted territory.  With transition would I become functionally  a heterosexual woman? Given my experience with this earlier probably psychodynamically lesbian relationship, would I become more  bisexual?

Questions to ponder.

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Kylo

I've always been bi. Wasn't something I ran from before, far as I was concerned I didn't want to be with anyone anyway. Strictly in attraction terms it's like liking Coke and Pepsi, but being on a diet so not being able to have either anyway.

Later in life I did get involved with people but I just couldn't really see myself with a woman. Not sure why. Since I started to understand better what I am and what my problems are, I feel even less inclined that way, and less inclined towards anyone in general... maybe because I know now that being transsexual means it's going to be a minefield (as if it wasn't difficult enough before). I still hang on the fringes of an existing relationship but I've felt a gradual feeling growing that I won't want to bother with another relationship after the efforts and struggles of the last two. I don't have any intention of starting a family or anything like that... I'll always be stuck at the point at which I can't go any further than a certain point and most people are "Looking for something" from somebody in a relationship, something I probably cannot give them.

I feel it as much as the next person, but I'm just not paying attention to the urges any more. They haven't helped.
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Maybebaby56

Yes, and I am having a hard time dealing with it. I have met a guy, and he is so sweet to me. He lives in Chicago, and I live in Alexandria, VA. We talk on the phone almost every day. He knows I am trans and pre-op. He sometimes crossdresses and is very open-minded and accepting.  He is well-educated and articulate, and those are things I really go for. I am going to meet him next month when I go for FFS with Dr. Zukowski. 

I am very conflicted with how I feel.  I don't consider myself to be homosexual, so I am unsure of how to be affectionate towards a guy when I still have male attributes, even though I very much identify with being female.   I would love to be in love, but I recognize this is probably too soon for me to have a boyfriend.  Yet, I have fantasies about just that. It's quite confusing for me.

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Steph Eigen


Perhaps it is best to think of this stage of life as akin to going through puberty again--physically, mentally, socially and romantically,  needing  to learn how to  date and express affections all over again.

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FTMDiaries

Not in terms of my sexual orientation - I've always been exclusively attracted to men, and I still am - but in terms of my confidence in experimenting with other aspects of my sexuality.

My gender therapist warned me that my sexual orientation might change when I went on T and I was open to the possibility that it might do so... but I found that I paid even more attention to cute guys than ever before, and I didn't suddenly experience some magical attraction to women. Instead, women became even more irrelevant to me than ever and I now have some comfortable distance between myself & them.

Now that my body is more like it should be, I'm more confident in using it to its fullest. So if anything, I'd say my sexuality has matured.





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Platzhalter

Alright... first, thank you for all your answers which are really helpful. It's always good to not be the only one questioning their attraction.

Quote from: Tossu-sama on August 21, 2016, 03:45:01 AM
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I think it's highly likely that I've always been attracted to men more than I was willing to admit, and insisted I was more attracted to women. (...)
That actually seems to describe me pretty well, too... it's probably always been more of an issue to realise what I am and was than who I fall for. Would still describe myself as bi- or pansexual towards people who are 'understanding' (mostly in a sense of what it means and what it doesn't mean), but otherwise consider gay a much easier term to grasp for most people. Not that I tend to talk about those things that much with most people.


Quote from: Ayden on August 20, 2016, 08:04:24 PM
My orientation never changed, just the label that's attached to it. I've always been attracted to men, and after hormones and two surgeries I'm still attracted to men. I was with my husband before and we're still together. He's gay, and I'm pretty sure he knew about me without me ever having to say anything. He just encouraged me to work through my identity problems. He told me he was always attracted to me because I "felt" like another man, even when I was super in denial.

That's really nice to hear, especially the part that your husband always knew and was that supportive. TBH, I've often assumed (may have been very wrong on it) that cis gay men would have difficulties with us because of still having certain parts/not having certain parts... sure, been silly to assume it's all about physics only for every guy.
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