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How feminine is my face (sorry, another one of these topics)

Started by Just Me Here, August 10, 2016, 04:01:45 AM

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Just Me Here

Sorry to bother you all. But I need your opinions on everything. I can't trust myself as I'm wallowing in the throes of depression - go figure. and I don't really want to trust pictriev either as it vacillates between 2% and 66% feminine dpending on lighting (so since I can't have a camera lighting crew standing by at all times, I thought you guys would be able to tell me).
MTF, pre HRT, not out to parents.

if img embed doesn't work link is here:
http://imgur.com/a/1EJf9
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Drexy/Drex

More feminine  than male  your lucky  you got good bone structure with ...very female lips , neck ....hell and no makeup   lucky you  got that androgynous  look that can go either way
Good luck go for it
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Just Me Here

Quote from: markie on August 10, 2016, 05:01:52 AM
More feminine  than male  your lucky  you got good bone structure with ...very female lips , neck ....hell and no makeup   lucky you  got that androgynous  look that can go either way
Good luck go for it
Thank you so much, I'm being completely serious when I say that you have literally made my year. Thank you so so so so so much.
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Jacqueline

Just Me Here,

Welcome to the site. Sorry to hear about the depression. Happens to the best and worst of us(in other words, all). 

Yeah, I would not trust a site or software to accurately identify this sort of thing.

I think you look pretty androgynous to female.

Are you under 18(I saw the parent reference)? If so, you might also look around at our category called Youth Talk. It is for members under 18 to talk to peers  https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,496.0.html

You probably can't imbed a photo yet. Like certain other privileges, they become unlocked after 15 quality posts.

I also want to share some links with you. They are mostly welcome information and the rules that govern the site. This is the stuff that will let you know certain things like about photos, avatars, private messaging...If you have not had a chance to look through them, please take a moment:

Things that you should read





Once again, welcome to Susan's. Look around, ask questions and join in.

With warmth,

Joanna
1st Therapy: February 2015
First Endo visit & HRT StartJanuary 29, 2016
Jacqueline from Joanna July 18, 2017
Full Time June 1, 2018





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Just Me Here

Quote from: Joanna50 on August 10, 2016, 05:09:01 AM
Just Me Here,

Welcome to the site ...
... Joanna
Hi Joanna,
thanks for the info, unfortunately I missed out on the under 18 thing. 19 going on 20 unfortunately, although I tend to get carded at 15+ films. Not that being asked for my age is really the thing that really bothers me that much in the grand scheme of things. Anyway, I'm a legal adult but still financially dependent on them with uni and all, hence my tremulousness in terms of coming out, but I would prefer to do it with their support anyway.
Once again, thanks for all the info, i'll be sure to browse it while I'm still in a decent mood from Markie's post.
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SadieBlake

You look to me easily passable. I'd think you want to get on hrt or even just estrogen blockers soon if possible.

Sorry to hear about depression, yes it happens to many of us. Take heart, this process eases that for most of us.
🌈👭 lesbian, troublemaker ;-) 🌈🏳️‍🌈
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Sebby Michelango

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You have a great potential. Your face looks feminine now and you're also pretty. At HRT you would easily pass. Looks would be no problem for you. You can do it well in both; passing as a cis woman and being a pretty woman.
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sid104

You will grow up beautiful.just dont be depressed.eat healthy and stay positive
I cant feel my face when am with you ::)
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tgirlamg

Hi Just Me Here!!!

Welcome to the forum!!!

All will be well sister!... You have a feminine look already and at your age, the HT should give you great results!

Coming out to parents... Probably seems like a big hurdle, but I can tell you know who you are inside... They should know too when the time is right ... If I may ask... What do you expect their reaction to be?

Take Care

Ashley :)
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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Just Me Here

Quote from: sid104 on August 10, 2016, 09:20:49 AM
You will grow up beautiful.just dont be depressed.eat healthy and stay positive
Thanks <3
In response to the private message (unfortunately I haven't reached 15 posts yet, which is a massive grind - I'm sorely tempted to go spam the entertainment section to build up to it) no I haven't started HRT. Although I am looking at a certain NSAA, which I probably shouldn't discuss here because of certain site rules and terms of service here *cough* rule #8 *cough*, during the hiatus between getting a referral to a GIC as it might take a while in the UK.
I still need to report to my GP who i'll push into referring me to WLMHT or somewhere similar. As for a therapist, I'll probably do it as a matter of process, probably one who does both Gender Identity and Depression. I know the issue, but a bit of help would sure be nice too on that front so probably.

As a side note:
As for the depression part I'm sort of used to it. Had a low level dysthymia going on for at least 11 years in. Didn't even realise it until I got double whammied in the past year with what I have now - atypical depression. (should be noted that it is self diagnosed, but symptoms fit almost perfectly) So really I have it to thank for galvanising me into at least the semblance of really slow, lethargic action. I suppressed so much of this ->-bleeped-<- for years, so i'm definitely having fun now. Still laughing at myself though. Keeps me insane.
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Just Me Here

Quote from: tgirlamc on August 10, 2016, 09:55:05 AM
Hi Just Me Here!!!

Welcome to the forum!!!

All will be well sister!... You have a feminine look already and at your age, the HT should give you great results!

Coming out to parents... Probably seems like a big hurdle, but I can tell you know who you are inside... They should know too when the time is right ... If I may ask... What do you expect their reaction to be?

Take Care

Ashley :)
I plan on coming out soon, I was waiting on my grandfather to shuffle off this mortal coil (callous as it may sound) as he is a bit of an old fogey, but it seems a bit late for that now. I feel like a testosterone time bomb, just tick-tick-tick-ticking down to self destruction.
As for parents, they're all good and understanding for the most part. They're not religious so that's a huge bonus and they seem fine for the most part with trans people. They've just got some rather odd ideas that we're just doing it for the attention - of all things, oh my, can you imagine. I'll just stick the David Reimer case in their faces if they even start with that.
Anyway, I've gotten past the stage where I've been doubting my sanity (sort of  ;) , I was actually playing around with the name Alyssa - meaning "sanity" - which I though was quite nice, also Alyssum flowers are beautiful, so double bonus) so everything should be looking up soon enough. I don't really expect them to understand, I do expect them to acquiesce eventually though.
And yes it is a big hurdle, probably the biggest one I'll ever face (don't you dare contradict me... :D ... one step at a time). But the thing that keeps on surprising me is that even though I'm sad and have loads of crap with low-self-esteem (cue Halsey lyrics for Gasoline - she's awesome)  is that I am <Not Allowed> PI**ED with wasting my life living someone else's, probably not really an emotion that should be symbolically relevant to starting a new life, but all roads lead to Rome I suppose.

Moderator Edit: In line with ToS #11 regarding foul language I have removed one of the words.
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tgirlamg

Hey Alyssa (for now) :)

I sounds like all will be well with the parents... Remember the first reaction may be vastly different from their attitude hours, days, weeks later after they have had time to chew and digest the revelation but it sounds like they are loving people who will quickly realize... Not only do they still have the child they love but now they have more of her!!!!

Jumping this hurdle with them may even have more effect on your depression than you foresee! We will keep this in the running as biggest hurdle ever in deference to your request :)!there will be more to come but I see amazing things in your future!

With youth comes impatience to some degree.. But fear not! A life that is truly your own is approaching quickly!

Onward we go!!!

Ashley :)
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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Jacqueline

Alyssa,

It sounds like you are getting to a great place. It is frightening but you are making good progress. Are you seeing a therapist yet? They are very helpful and often you need a letter or referral to start HRT. They can help guide you through complex moments of your journey. They can also help you practice for coming out to people. If you can find a gender based therapist, even better.

I did edit a word out of your last post. Pissed is okay to write. I understand how you feel and you are in no trouble at all, I just wanted you to know I had done that.

Good luck. I wish you love, acceptance and a smooth journey.

With warmth,

Joanna
1st Therapy: February 2015
First Endo visit & HRT StartJanuary 29, 2016
Jacqueline from Joanna July 18, 2017
Full Time June 1, 2018





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Just Me Here

Quote from: Joanna50 on August 10, 2016, 12:42:12 PM
Alyssa,

It sounds like you are getting to a great place. It is frightening but you are making good progress. Are you seeing a therapist yet? They are very helpful and often you need a letter or referral to start HRT. They can help guide you through complex moments of your journey. They can also help you practice for coming out to people. If you can find a gender based therapist, even better.

I did edit a word out of your last post. Pissed is okay to write. I understand how you feel and you are in no trouble at all, I just wanted you to know I had done that.

Good luck. I wish you love, acceptance and a smooth journey.

With warmth,

Joanna
Aww, thank you so much. Yeah i'll probably go to get one. To be completely frank (or francisca) I am completely shocked by how much of a difference being resolved about this (and how quickly too), and talking about this with all you wonderful people, has made. Never in a million years would I have thought I would feel like this again (I'm not sure I ever have), it's like walking on moonbeams in a body made of starlight.
I was looking up gender therapists actually - and there is a private one literally 3 minutes from my house (cue A Whole New World - Aladdin), it was like peering through the looking glass into wonderland.
sorry about the f-bomb, I knew it wasn't allowed, which was why i asterisked it. It seems that that wasn't allowed either. so sorry, and now i know better.
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Just Me Here

Also, thank you DawnOday, I smiled so much at that, I think i'm going to set it as a wallpaper on my laptop - here's to goals.
Thanks again :D
Sorry I couldn't reply to you in the message, but that seems to be an unavailable option at the moment - back to the entertainment section, 15 posts here I come.
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aaajjj55

To answer your initial question, your face is very feminine and can only get more so through HRT.  I think the avatar which DawnOday did for you proves this beyond any doubt.

I am a lot older than you but if I had known at your age what I know now, things would have been very different.  The other correspondents are quite correct in suggesting that you consult a gender therapist but, also, don't forget people closer to home.  Do you have female friends who you could confide in?  I'm sure that if you do explain about your feelings, insecurities and desires for the future, they'll be more than happy to give you help and possible an outing or two as 'one of the girls'.

Also, don't forget the shops.  As has been said elsewhere on this site, most shop assistants are more concerned with making the sale than who they are making it to.  Why not go to one of the big stores near where you live (or a little further away if you're worried about the risk of being recognised) and ask one of the ladies on the cosmetics counter for advice.  I would start the conversation by saying 'I am transgender and would like some advice....' - in all probability, she'll give you all of the help and advice you need but if, for any reason, she doesn't feel able to serve you, thank her and move on (you will get knock backs on your journey but that's life).  Youl'll come away with a lot of knowledge about how cosmetics can help you (and, more than likely, a few products as well); she may even offer to apply the makeup for you so wear androgynous clothes when you go.

I hope that everything works out for you

Amanda x
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Fira

you're so young!  I'm in my mid 30's (well ok, that's still young compared to 50s) and you have obvious greater potential to become a very beautiful girl in this lifetime (and beautiful for a longer period of time)

I don't want to sound negative, but with experience and knowing people that don't look at the world as a whole and the ground they stand on that get caught off guard and overwhelmed,
I feel you deserve to be prepared for anything, and it might help checking out some transgender stories.  like there was an artist and an lady trucker who lost all or most of their family after coming out, but they still persevered and successfully transitioned and have a roof over their head. 

Not to scare you, but keep in mind, that anyone that rejects you for being what you want to be,  are the misguided fools in this world.

So whatever happens or direction you take, know that there are ways in life to survive and succeed.   Not everyone discriminates, and perhaps you have or may find people that can support you even if you do come out to family/friends are transgender.

  if your family really loves and respects you, they will accept you for wanting to be a real beautiful girl outside besides inside. 
I know my family don't truly love nor respect me, they only "love"/"respect"  a mask, a costume I didn't choose nor want.   it took them years to stop nagging about my really long hair, and even then they still don't respect my decisions. so I know they are not on my side and don't deserve to know my true self, because they can't handle it and too closed minded, ignorant and foolish to accept things outside of their strict and misguided principles.

your situation is better than mine.  and I feel you are stronger than I am to get what you want in this world. 

I'm with my parents, have issues with getting job (I'm more of a maid or delicate princess, so that lifestyle doesn't gel with me, even though it's pretty essential for most to survive in cities), antisocial, insecure, don't like going out, no insurance. at this point I might have to win the lottery to afford to live independently and afford HRT at a consistent basis, as well as FFS and SRS. 

and no matter what happens, even in worse case scenarios, as a last resort, at least be open to possibilities beyond this life, I believe in the afterlife and souls that are eternal, invincible and powerful outside of this dimension's physical rules, and we will achieve our desires and needs after this life in a dimension open to true power and perfected and changeable physical rules.  So whether we transition or not in the life, we will still achieve our desires and needs in the afterlife and can each establish our personal heaven.   we can imagine it, we can achieve it.  if you're not religious don't worry about it, I'm not aligned to any particular religion.  I am open minded and know that our self awareness, imagination, mind and soul can't die. 
   there's already lots of hints everywhere that we are more than we seem, and sentient existence goes beyond life and death. 
look at the breakthroughs people achieved with their mind in this world, now imagine what we can achieve after leaving this world.
but don't worry about this subject too much, the afterlife will speak for itself, so concentrate on the now.  :)


well although I'm quiet, I'm quite a talker on the inside.   so I think I said my motivational part in this discussion. 
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Drexy/Drex

Quote from: Just Me Here on August 10, 2016, 05:07:21 AM
Thank you so much, I'm being completely serious when I say that you have literally made my year. Thank you so so so so so much.

You are welcome :)
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